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Old 12-03-2008, 02:58 PM   #1
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HONOLULU - Hawaii has unveiled plans to be first in the nation to roll out electric car stations statewide — a move the governor hailed as a major step toward weaning the islands off oil.Hawaii imports foreign oil for almost 90 percent of its energy needs. One-third of that oil is used to power cars and buses on island streets.
Gov. Linda Lingle said Tuesday the program would help Hawaii meet its goal of slashing fossil fuel use 70 percent by 2030.


This is the preferred future,” Lingle said at a press conference. “Today is a part of the execution of our energy independence, and our getting off the addiction to oil.”
Better Place, a Palo Alto, Calif.-based company, will build the car recharging stations and provide recharged batteries for electric cars.
The company will purchase renewable energy — such as wind power — from Hawaiian Electric Co., the state’s largest utility.
Better Place plans to have the stations open for the mass market by 2011. It expects to build between 50,000 to 100,000 charge spots — in parking lots, downtown streets, and neighborhoods — across the state by early 2012.
Other communities, like the San Francisco Bay area, have announced plans to host Better Place recharging stations.



But Hawaii aims to be the first to have the stations statewide. Better Place also has deals to create electric vehicle infrastructures in Israel, Denmark and Australia.
Shai Agassi, Better Place’s founder and chief executive officer, said the Nissan Motor Co.-Renault SA auto alliance has agreed to make electric cars that would be recharged at the stations.


Better Place is also talking to other automakers, including the U.S. Big Three: Chrysler LLC, Ford Motor Co., and General Motors Corp. Ford is planning to accelerate the roll-out of electric vehicles as part of its restructuring plan, submitted to Congress Tuesday. The first plug-in vehicle will be a Transit Connect small van for commercial use in 2010 and a car the size of the Ford Focus compact the following year.
Ford also said it will accelerate plans for hybrid gas-electric vehicles.


Lingle said other carmakers have an incentive to follow Nissan/Renault because they would want to sell cars in the new markets Better Place is creating.
“Nobody will want to be left on the sidelines once these networks are up,” Lingle said.
Agassi said the electric cars will cost the same as gasoline powered vehicles.


Over time, however, they will be cheaper to make because they will use half as many parts as cars with internal combustion engines.


Better Place picked Hawaii for the first statewide rollout in part because the islands are a contained environment, with few vehicles coming in and out, Agassi said. Better Place would need to build a bigger network across several states to serve some mainland markets.


Hawaii also has abundant renewable energy resources, including wind, solar, geothermal and wave power. This is important because Better Place won’t use oil, and aims to have a “zero carbon footprint.”


For example, Agassi said Better Place plans to recharge its batteries at night with power from Hawaii’s wind farms. That power normally goes unused because of Hawaii’s low nighttime energy needs.


Agassi sees Hawaii as an ideal place to show off Better Place technology because the state welcomes over five million tourists each year from the U.S. mainland, Japan, Canada and the rest of the world.


“If we can get them into electric cars when they rent, we do two great things,” Agassi said. “One, we avoid emissions and, two, we use the opportunity to educate them, to teach them in Hawaii how it needs to be done in the rest of the world.”


Lingle said the state doesn’t expect to spend any money to facilitate the network. However, she said the state may need to offer tax breaks or other incentives to encourage people to buy electric vehicles when they are first offered.
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:48 PM   #2
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sweet. like israel (the home of Better Place) hawaii seems well suited to electrification.
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:33 PM   #3
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It seems like the perfect state for this. Great idea!
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:24 PM   #4
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It expects to build between 50,000 to 100,000 charge spots — in parking lots, downtown streets, and neighborhoods — across the state by early 2012.
You mean those prime parking spots next to the handicapped spaces that are for 'electric cars only' which sit empty ALL THE TIME? They want 100,000 of them?

Geez.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:43 PM   #5
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You mean those prime parking spots next to the handicapped spaces that are for 'electric cars only' which sit empty ALL THE TIME? They want 100,000 of them?

Geez.
get an electric car if you want to snag one of those spaces. eventually they'll be full...

the quoted line from the OP was referring to locations in which electric cars can recharge (if they're Better Place subscribers), not necessarily just parking spots, btw.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:37 AM   #6
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get an electric car if you want to snag one of those spaces. eventually they'll be full...
Haha now fat people will have to get electric cars so they get good spots and don't have to walk as far ...electric cars are promoting obesity
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:47 AM   #7
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that sounds like an awesome idea to me!
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How can it be the first when my town had them for years then got rid of them b/c no cars used them?
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Wired mag did a big write up on this company. Very cool idea - with lots of big investors really attracted to the concept. Basically a cellphone business model for electric cars.

The basic idea - you buy the plan/service that fits your need - the car much like a cell phone is built by another company right now Nissan/Renalt has jumped on the idea.

So you need X amount of juice a month you sign up for plan C - when you need a charge or battery you pull into one of the charging docks or battery swap locations get what you need and continue on. End of the month if you went over your juice allotment you pay additional fee etc. Thats the very basic idea behind it. But an idea that is very cool if you think about it.
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How can it be the first when my town had them for years then got rid of them b/c no cars used them?
Statewide not citywide.
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california used to and still does have quite a few stations around since the EV1 and ranger EV days
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My YMCA has electric car recharging stations.
Great for my engine block heater to plug in. Yet confuses people when an H1 is plugged in.

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