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Old 12-03-2008, 07:32 PM   #1
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:41 PM   #2
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Heh, looks like THOSE airbags worked...
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:07 PM   #3
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:17 PM   #4
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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He was rear ended by a truck on the interstate... the rolls occured after he went off the road. Anytime a vehicle rolls it's absorbing the force of the crash over a very long period of time. It's usually the gnarliest looking accidents that have the least injuries. The ones where the car hits a solid object at speed and stops within a fraction of a second is where everyone dies.*

*assuming everyone is properly belted in and the passenger cell isn't intruded upon.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:34 PM   #6
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He was rear ended by the truck... and the airbag in the steering wheel didn't go off?

I can see why the airbag didn't go off, but I'm a little surprised he didn't hit his head on there though.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:37 PM   #7
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Airbags aren't supposed to go off when you're rear ended.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:41 PM   #8
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Airbags aren't supposed to go off when you're rear ended.
That's what I figured after a few minutes, since that could be catastrophic... still amazed he didn't hit his head on the wheel though; guess those seatbelts are doing their jobs
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:47 PM   #9
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He was rear ended by a truck on the interstate... the rolls occured after he went off the road. Anytime a vehicle rolls it's absorbing the force of the crash over a very long period of time. It's usually the gnarliest looking accidents that have the least injuries. The ones where the car hits a solid object at speed and stops within a fraction of a second is where everyone dies.*

*assuming everyone is properly belted in and the passenger cell isn't intruded upon.


I was always under the impression that rollover accidents had typically extremely high casualty/severe injury rates due to head and neck trauma, rapid G-force changes, passenger ejection, and cabin intrusion. Got any more info?

Edit: Some quick googling does indeed show rollovers statistically having much higher casualty rates than flat crashes. Dunno where you got that info...

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Old 12-03-2008, 09:01 PM   #10
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I was always under the impression that rollover accidents had typically extremely high casualty/severe injury rates due to head and neck trauma, rapid G-force changes, passenger ejection, and cabin intrusion. Got any more info?

Edit: Some quick googling does indeed show rollovers statistically having much higher casualty rates than flat crashes. Dunno where you got that info...
Like any accident it depends on the car, what it's hitting or getting hit by and where. One roll over everyone can die and another only bruises- there's so many other factors its hard to point at "flat crashes" vs roll over, which ones more deadly.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:06 PM   #11
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Like any accident it depends on the car, what it's hitting or getting hit by and where. One roll over everyone can die and another only bruises- there's so many other factors its hard to point at "flat crashes" vs roll over, which ones more deadly.
Yeah, but I'm finding sources claiming nearly 1/3 of annual vehicle accident casualties are from rollovers, but rollovers only make up less than 10% of crashes, etc. I haven't found even one article supporting rollovers being less dangerous. Plus I've been under this impression since forever, which is why I was immediately suspicious.

I don't think so. Reality > Logic, in this case.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:39 AM   #12
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You missed my *comment apparently. The G forces in a rollover don't kill you. Most passenger cars have roofs that are strong enough to support the weight of the car (see Subaru's ring structure). When body-on-frame SUVs and trucks tip over (and they comprise most of the rollovers due to their high COGs) everyone dies.. because the roofs are not structural... there is cabin intrusion and the occupants are usually crushed. When a passenger car flips multiple times and doesn't hit anything.. usually the properly belted occupants walk away. Once again, a slow crash that allows the vehicle to slow down from speed over a period of several seconds is far less likely to be fatal than a fast one that's over in a fraction of a second.

In short.. I'm just not amazed by these results. The Accord has very good crash ratings and this particular one was travelling on the interstate where there's a very low chance of hitting something solid.

What I am blown away by is why this young, fit looking, handsome guy bought one of the sportiest Accords ever made... with an automatic.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:45 AM   #13
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What I am blown away by is why this young, fit looking, handsome guy bought one of the sportiest Accords ever made... with an automatic.
Why? It's a 4 cylinder model. If it was the V6 AND a coupe, yeah, I'd ask, "WTF, why didn't you get the 6-speed manual?!" But it's just the I4 with less than 200hp.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:16 AM   #14
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Hope they caught the people driving the F150
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:24 AM   #15
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What I am blown away by is why this young, fit looking, handsome guy bought one of the sportiest Accords ever made... with an automatic.
does not compute
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:27 AM   #16
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:29 AM   #17
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You missed my *comment apparently. The G forces in a rollover don't kill you. Most passenger cars have roofs that are strong enough to support the weight of the car (see Subaru's ring structure). When body-on-frame SUVs and trucks tip over (and they comprise most of the rollovers due to their high COGs) everyone dies.. because the roofs are not structural... there is cabin intrusion and the occupants are usually crushed. When a passenger car flips multiple times and doesn't hit anything.. usually the properly belted occupants walk away. Once again, a slow crash that allows the vehicle to slow down from speed over a period of several seconds is far less likely to be fatal than a fast one that's over in a fraction of a second.

In short.. I'm just not amazed by these results. The Accord has very good crash ratings and this particular one was travelling on the interstate where there's a very low chance of hitting something solid.

What I am blown away by is why this young, fit looking, handsome guy bought one of the sportiest Accords ever made... with an automatic.
I second this.
If I had to choose a crash, I'd like to be in a rollover in a passenger car. The safest accident ever. Well, maybe after hitting something with the rear first (due to spinn off)
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:16 PM   #18
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wonder if he would have survived had he worn a 4 point harness.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:17 PM   #19
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You missed my *comment apparently. The G forces in a rollover don't kill you. Most passenger cars have roofs that are strong enough to support the weight of the car (see Subaru's ring structure). When body-on-frame SUVs and trucks tip over (and they comprise most of the rollovers due to their high COGs) everyone dies.. because the roofs are not structural... there is cabin intrusion and the occupants are usually crushed. When a passenger car flips multiple times and doesn't hit anything.. usually the properly belted occupants walk away. Once again, a slow crash that allows the vehicle to slow down from speed over a period of several seconds is far less likely to be fatal than a fast one that's over in a fraction of a second.

In short.. I'm just not amazed by these results. The Accord has very good crash ratings and this particular one was travelling on the interstate where there's a very low chance of hitting something solid.

What I am blown away by is why this young, fit looking, handsome guy bought one of the sportiest Accords ever made... with an automatic.
I just can't find any empirical data to support that. Maybe you can....
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:25 PM   #20
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I rolled my white STi @ 80mph and drove it 3 hours home.

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Old 12-06-2008, 12:46 PM   #22
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a car that flips halfway and lands on the roof is listed as the same as one that rolls multiple times and lands on the wheels.

A car landing flat on the roof is far worse than one that disperses the energy over a distance. The roof is not that caved in, so the impact to the roof was likely reduced.

Richard Petty had a famous multiple roll crash. he had a broken leg. when Earnhardt died, it was a simple, quick head on stop.

as for the airbags, I think the side impact ones inflate on the car inverting. could be wrong though.
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