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Old 12-04-2008, 01:22 PM   #1
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...nics+Tool+Sets

Quite simple question actually, should I invest in something like this? Or just peice together a more useful collection? I plan using whatever I invest in for the rest of my life.

I need some wisdom from the experienced...
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:23 PM   #2
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There are plenty of tools here on NASIOC, you don't need those
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:27 PM   #3
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This is a HUGE kit and has probably everything you'll need for a long time. You could get by with half that easily and then just buy the singles that you need. But if you get this set, you'll go a while before you actually need something you don't have.

Sears has both sales and Craftsman Club days (join it....) where you get much better discounts. Usually for a kit like you've listed, they'll put it on general sale for like $399 and then for Craftsman Club members, it'll be $379. Not a humungous savings....but worth signing up for the free membership.

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Old 12-04-2008, 01:30 PM   #4
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IMO it's good to start with a large set (not as large as the one you linked) and build from there. You will never have all the tools you need in one set. BTW, the set you listed is great but might be overkill.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:35 PM   #5
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That's quite a set. I have a 40-pc which covers most of the work I do. As other have said, you can always buy single items as you go.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:36 PM   #6
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I have the smaller version of that. I think it was $100 or $150.
I like it cause its in a case so u can take it where u need to and have everything with u.
I havent broken any gears or stripped any sockets and have had mine for about 12 years but I have heard Sear/Craftman is pretty good about exchanging them when needed.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:36 PM   #7
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This is a HUGE kit and has probably everything you'll need for a long time. You could get by with half that easily and then just buy the singles that you need. But if you get this set, you'll go a while before you actually need something you don't have.

Sears has both sales and Craftsman Club days (join it....) where you get much better discounts. Usually for a kit like you've listed, they'll put it on general sale for like $399 and then for Craftsman Club members, it'll be $379. Not a humungous savings....but worth signing up for the free membership.

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It usually works, Craftsman item is on sale for say $399 like you said...then the store sale is $379 for everyone, and then the Craftsman Club discounts it about another 20 bucks and it would be like $359. Every once in a while you get even better deals, you just have to check the magazine when it hits your mailbox. It's free so it's definitely worth signing up for like you said.

To the OP...that set sounds good for something you would use for a long time. Personally I bought a much smaller set, then pieced everything together I needed over time. Since I really only work on my WRX, I have collected mostly all metric size tools, but I still have some standard sizes just in case. Around this time of year they run good deals on some of the sets that come in the cheap plastic tool boxes, usually something ridiculous like $100 off. Just shop around and check all the sales.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:39 PM   #8
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BUY THE SET... you only need metric really!!! you might not need that big of a set!! I would get a set thats 150-200 pieces
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:12 PM   #9
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Start with a smaller set, then as you work on your car(s) you'll pretty quickly find out what you use alot, what collects dust in your toolbox, and what you need to make working on your cars easier.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #10
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There are plenty of tools here on NASIOC, you don't need those
Damn you..I wanted to say that.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:25 PM   #11
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TO BIG! Start with a set that is mostly metric since most of your need will be on the rex.
I have been using some of the same craftsman tools I bought over 15 years ago and I am still using some that I inherited from my grandfather so who knows how old they are.

Also the allen wrenches that come in that type of set suck, get better ones separately.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:18 PM   #12
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...nics+Tool+Sets

Quite simple question actually, should I invest in something like this? Or just peice together a more useful collection? I plan using whatever I invest in for the rest of my life.

I need some wisdom from the experienced...

piece it together from Harbor Freight

10-12-14-17-19mm stuff 6pt is better than not

get some gearwrenches and 3/8" drive
6pt swivel head sockets in 10-12-14mm
get a 2pound deadblow hammer
a ratcheting screwdriver with an assortment of bits

when ya start NEEDing better tools....step up from harborfreight
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:40 PM   #13
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I would go for this craftsman has a lifetime warrenty
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:24 PM   #14
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I bought a set like that over 30 years ago. It has paid for itself many times over.
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:40 PM   #15
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You will probably never need all the fractional tools unless your like me and am a semi diesel mechanic. The best, and oldest mechanic where I work uses craftsman.
I would add a 1/2" breaker bar, a 3/8" flex head ratchet and a 3/8" speed handle right off the bat.
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #16
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i got the 154pc set and love it! it has stuck by me through all stages and the only single tool i ever bought was the angled screwdriver for the mudflaps i just got today!.. but i'll return it after the install! haha
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:50 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the replies! Can't wait to start building my collection.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:35 AM   #18
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One thing to keep in mind is you are probably going to need doubles for most wrenches. You will, without fail, find yourself in a situation where a bolt-and-nut are the same size...and you need to hold one while backing the other out or driving it in. You might be better off getting two smaller metric sets, which is what I did. That was the wisest move I've made yet in life.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:39 AM   #19
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One thing to keep in mind is you are probably going to need doubles for most wrenches. You will, without fail, find yourself in a situation where a bolt-and-nut are the same size...and you need to hold one while backing the other out or driving it in. You might be better off getting two smaller metric sets, which is what I did. That was the wisest move I've made yet in life.
this is why you have regular combination wrenches and the gearwrenches

if i were to do more...id make SURE I got the ofset and the flat gearwrenches....and if santa was REAL nice.....the flex head ones and a 21mm and 22mm one of each, just because....make SURE you get the 17 and 19mm ones and the 8mm one is great for aiming headlights
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:13 AM   #20
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when i first started wrenching as a career i purchased a full craftsman package from ebay. i want to say that i was 500 pieces if not more for just over $200 shipped. i would look on ebay before buying from the store. also you may want to take into consideration how often you will be using these tools. harbor frieght sells fair tools but with some use you will find most of there stuff is crap. my craftsman tools have been solid for the last 5 years and have taken all the abuse i have given them.

as other have said before i will rec. a nice set of gearwrenches. they will save you alot of time and frustration. a cheap set of stubby gearwrenches will also be very handy, i use mine alot.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:32 AM   #21
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pawn shops are FULL of good tools now

at rock bottom prices
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:45 AM   #22
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...3260000P?mv=rr

also note sign up for sears mail banner and get $10, I have an email account just for this sort of stuff.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:08 PM   #23
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As others have said that set is overkill in many areas. On the other hand, there are many things missing. Some of the things I find useful (many have been mentioned already):

- 3/8" dr flex ratchet
- 3/8" dr stubby ratchet
- breaker bars
- gear wrenches
- pry bars
- pliers (regular and locking)
- magnetic and mechanical pickup devices
- telescoping inspection mirror
- parts trays
- 1/2" dr torque wrench (I have 3/8" dr too, but that is a luxury)
- gasket scraper
- rubber mallet or deadblow
- 3/8" wobble extension

I mix and match my tools, mostly getting them on sale from Sears. My 1/2" dr stuff tends to be Craftsman because I figure it takes more of a beating. 3/8" is mostly Companion stuff on sale, and 1/4" is cheap stuff because it doesn't take much stress.
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