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Old 12-04-2008, 07:52 PM   #1
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Default black OEM oil filters - NLA?

After thoroughly reading all of the threads, and deciding that the OEM (black 15208AA080) filter was the best choice for my newly assembled STi motor, i just found out that 5208AA080 was superseded by part number 15208AA09A.

What's the take on the new oil filters? Doesn't seem like the 15208AA09A is the same as the old 15208AA080?

Has anything better come along?
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:13 PM   #2
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if you can find the old black ones

buy them

if not....
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:31 PM   #3
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Found some still available!
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:08 AM   #4
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What happens if you run the new filter?? llol
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:13 AM   #5
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What happens if you run the new filter?? llol
I think your head explodes...I read it online so it must be true
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:51 AM   #6
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After thoroughly reading all of the threads, and deciding that the OEM (black 15208AA080) filter was the best choice for my newly assembled STi motor, i just found out that 5208AA080 was superseded by part number 15208AA09A.

What's the take on the new oil filters? Doesn't seem like the 15208AA09A is the same as the old 5208AA080?

Has anything better come along?
Get some of the 15208AA100 filters while they're still available. I just bought a 6-pack of them here: http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/

The latest filter looks like garbage in comparison to the 'A100.
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:10 AM   #7
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if you can find the old black ones

buy them

if not....
The reason being?
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:14 AM   #8
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The latest filter looks like garbage in comparison to the 'A100.
Looks like? Oil filters are cosmetic parts now are they?
Explain please.....
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:13 PM   #9
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Looks like? Oil filters are cosmetic parts now are they?
Explain please.....


this is real simple

and basic

if you open one up

and does NOT concern you unless and until you move to the USA and bring your car with you
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:21 PM   #10
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An oil filter is an oil filter is an oil filter....there is no mystic voodoo science in them. Mind you I'm no tribologist, but I have better things to worry about than oil filters.

<-----use Purolator Pure Oil gold sandy ones for bling only
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:20 AM   #11
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this is real simple

and basic

if you open one up

and does NOT concern you unless and until you move to the USA and bring your car with you
Both filters will operate exactly the same, under the conditions specified for the car. If you change oil and filter as deemed necessary by Subaru, you will not see any difference.

Try working in a mass production environment, these sort of changes occur all the time, to save costs. These changes would have been tested to make sure they stand up to the requirements of the car.

Usually customers don't throw their toys out of their cot about it though
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:01 AM   #12
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Micky, since your from Japan, can you send a 24' container by ship full of the black filters to the U.S.?
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:29 AM   #13
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I think a lot of subaru owners are concerned about this oil filter change
with good reason....

previously subaru hired a "usa" company (purolator) to mass produce oil filters for them

only to have to CANCEL that contract when the filters proved defective
and leaked often and continuously

Makes perfect sense that many would want the black Tokyo Roki filters which have been very reliable.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:03 AM   #14
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Both filters will operate exactly the same, under the conditions specified for the car.
You do not know that is the case unless you have examined the filters (and know what you're doing) and have performed a used oil analysis in similar conditions on the new and old filters.

Like Subie Gal's example shows, just because it is a filter that SoA uses does not mean that it is better.

-Dennis
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #15
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the black STi filter is designed to help with better oil pressure...I am not sure about this new filter, but I haven't heard anything about that around here yet...my friend works at Subaru, I'll find out some more info. ....if this is the case, it's probably a cost savings measure on Subaru USA's behalf....Just like the white 6 star filters we have here in Ontario costs almost a 3rd the price......If this is the case, they are stupid !
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:36 PM   #16
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go down the middle of the page to see side by side picture comparison of the old and new oil filter.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-lite...rs-blue-2.html
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:45 AM   #17
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You do not know that is the case unless you have examined the filters (and know what you're doing) and have performed a used oil analysis in similar conditions on the new and old filters.

Like Subie Gal's example shows, just because it is a filter that SoA uses does not mean that it is better.

-Dennis
Exactly what Subaru would/should have done. Think about it, if every car serviced by Subaru was fitted with a new filter that was substandard, that could result in a recall just as if the fault originated from the factory.

Read my post again, nowhere did I say the replacement filter was better, I said that it would be designed to perform to the Subaru specified requirements (filtration/mileage between changes etc), no more no less.

On the other hand if you guys want a container full, no problem... 40 bucks each and I'll send them.
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:08 PM   #18
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I did not say that you said the replacement filter was better. You stated that both filters will operate the same. Yes, they will both filter oil but you do not know how well.

The Tokyo Roki has proven to be an excellent filter in construction (as evidenced by the numerous filters that have been cut open) and oil filtration (as evidenced by excellent uoa's).

The new filter has some mighty big shoes to fill and I won't be trying them on. Then again I run my oil for 8k miles so I need a good filter.

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Old 12-10-2008, 11:38 PM   #19
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i got some filters racked up but i was wondering about the purolator pureone filters.. what is the part number for a wrx (03 in this case) for a purolator pureone oil filter? is it PL14460? b/c i found an excellent deal on amazon for them for <$6 for 2 of them (after rebate).

heres the link

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/reb...8969944&sr=1-1
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