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Old 12-04-2008, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default Installing Up And Down Pipe, Few Questions

im ordering my megan up/down pipe tomroow and plan to install the day they come. my friend who is going to help me, let me just say idk if i can trust the kid .. hes crazy but he seems to do his own work on his fp green wrx

My question is, for a simple up/down installation like this , what possible things can go wrong in the process so i have a heads up .. he is telling me hes done the installation more than 5 times, he said in order to get the stock uppipe offu have to loosen 1 motor mount and lift the motor bout 2 inches

Is he right ? i know people have their own methods but tell me what u guys think .. id rather not pay someone a couple hundred if my friend can help me
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:13 PM   #2
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first off this is in the wrong forum

and yes your friend sounds like he knows what he is talking about
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:16 PM   #3
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sorry ill move it
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:42 PM   #4
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Yes, taking the one motor mount off to lift the engine is needed to get the uppipe out (there's other methods, but this is really the easiest way about it). Aside from that, the rest is just a matter of taking everything apart. The worst thing That I can think of happening is breaking a bolt or doing the opposite and stripping it.

Also, I'm sure this is already known, but soak the hell out of all the bolts with PB Blaster, or the like.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:46 PM   #5
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:48 PM   #6
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he doesnt really sound like a friend at all if you cant trust him lol
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:51 PM   #7
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well i mean hes my friend he jus is crazy in general haha
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:19 PM   #8
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there is NO NEED to......oh bloody hell
forget it
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:25 PM   #9
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there is NO NEED to......oh bloody hell
forget it
No, tell us.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:52 AM   #10
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there is NO NEED to......oh bloody hell
forget it
I'll do it...

Since you're taking the DP off AND the UP, you might as well pop off the turbo and then yank the up pipe from above. It comes out just fine with the turbo out of the way (or even just the DP removed and someone holding the turbo up, really).

Lightly fasten the uppipe, then the turbo (remember those brackets from the passenger's side head!!!), then the DP, line up everything, and torque everything in this order:

1. Header to UP
2. UP to turbo
3. turbo brackets
4. turbo to DP
5. DP to CBE

USE FRESH GASKETS, and please retorque everything after a couple of heat cycles.


Most importantly - good luck, and if you run into trouble use the search here, there a a boat load of install threads with similar headaches, trust me
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:53 AM   #11
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Yes your friend is right. That is one way to do it. I personally find it easier to pull up the turbo to get to the uppipe.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:08 AM   #12
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I always did it the way your friend did. Getting to the O2 Sensor in the header is a pita. Not sure if a13's method requires the removal of that.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:15 AM   #13
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I'll do it...

Since you're taking the DP off AND the UP, you might as well pop off the turbo and then yank the up pipe from above. It comes out just fine with the turbo out of the way (or even just the DP removed and someone holding the turbo up, really).

Lightly fasten the uppipe, then the turbo (remember those brackets from the passenger's side head!!!), then the DP, line up everything, and torque everything in this order:

1. Header to UP
2. UP to turbo
3. turbo brackets
4. turbo to DP
5. DP to CBE

USE FRESH GASKETS, and please retorque everything after a couple of heat cycles.


Most importantly - good luck, and if you run into trouble use the search here, there a a boat load of install threads with similar headaches, trust me
you do NOT need to remove the turbo or the brackets to get the up out

you do NOT need to take the o2 sensor out of the manifold, either

you do NOT need to jack up the engine, either

you do NOT need to......

bloody hell....just forget it
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:54 AM   #14
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I didn't jack up my engine or remove my turbo to install my new uppipe. I don't understand how the uppipe install for our cars got so mixed up with misinformation and controversy. People make such a huge deal about it, and it's really not that bad.
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I didn't jack up my engine or remove my turbo to install my new uppipe. I don't understand how the uppipe install for our cars got so mixed up with misinformation and controversy. People make such a huge deal about it, and it's really not that bad.

ding-ding-****ing ding

and im so damned tired of trying to stem the tide of idiots doing stupid UNNECESSARY things---and causing all sorts of OTHER UNNECESSARY PROBLEMS along the way

im sick of it.....and this and bovs and the stupid slammed koo-koo-kiddie crap

god help us all....the end is near
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ding-ding-****ing ding

and im so damned tired of trying to stem the tide of idiots doing stupid UNNECESSARY things---and causing all sorts of OTHER UNNECESSARY PROBLEMS along the way

im sick of it.....and this and bovs and the stupid slammed koo-koo-kiddie crap

god help us all....the end is near

Amen brother.
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you do NOT need to remove the turbo or the brackets to get the up out

you do NOT need to take the o2 sensor out of the manifold, either

you do NOT need to jack up the engine, either

you do NOT need to......

bloody hell....just forget it
Meh, I think the extra step helps the noobs out At least in terms of having room to visually see what's what and where.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:52 AM   #18
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LMAO @ U.S. Man, you've just had it up to *here* haven't you?
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:53 PM   #19
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I didn't jack up my engine or remove my turbo to install my new uppipe. I don't understand how the uppipe install for our cars got so mixed up with misinformation and controversy. People make such a huge deal about it, and it's really not that bad.
I had heard it was possible to remove the UP without removing the turbo or jacking up the engine.

I tried to do so. I moved the UP around in every direction I could think of. I couldn't figure it out.

I unbolted the motor mount and jacked up the engine a couple of inches and it came right out. It was easy.

Removing the turbo sounds like a big hassle to me.

As in all things, YMMV.
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