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Old 12-05-2008, 08:30 AM   #1
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The 2010 Mustang is the cheapest of the Detroit Three's ponycars, according to Inside Line. With a base price of $21,845, the base V-6 Mustang will undercut the upcoming Camaro by $1,150 and the Challenger by $150. Which you'd kinda expect, given that the V-6 Mustang is only 210 horsepower, versus 250 from the Dodge and 300 out of the Chevrolet.

Likewise, Autoblog is saying the V-8 Mustang GT will have a base price of $27,995 $3000 cheaper than the V-8 Camaro and $2550 less than the V-8 Challenger R/T. Again, you're still sacrificing power for pocketbook the V-8 Mustang is only 315 horsepower, versus 422 from the Chevy and 375 out of the Dodge. Still, the Mustang has been leading the sales charts against the Challenger and Camaro as long as both of those models have been in production. It's doubtful that trend's going to change anytime soon.
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:34 AM   #2
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I'll take the more expensive Camaro...
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:18 AM   #3
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But the V6 Camaro has the same HP as the V8 Stang... for a lot less money.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:32 AM   #4
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But the V6 Camaro has the same HP as the V8 Stang... for a lot less money.
yea, they failed to recognize that....funny, im really shocked that ford didnt step it up w/the power to match these cars.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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The Ford motor simply can't make as much reliable power.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:42 AM   #6
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The Ford motor simply can't make as much reliable power.
ehh... depends on what motor your talking about.
Ford can definitely do it for cheaper.

I would have a hard time with a V6/V8 Camaro & a GT. My WS6 was a fun car, but the new mustang looks really good.

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Also the ugliest...
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:08 AM   #8
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I'll take the more expensive Camaro...
And 400lbs heavier..
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:20 AM   #9
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and LS3 for $10k less than C6.

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Old 12-05-2008, 11:22 AM   #10
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The Ford motor simply can't make as much reliable power.
or the v8 stang can still run 87 octane, cause thats what its tuned for. ya know, that may be it.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:28 AM   #11
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or the v8 stang can still run 87 octane, cause thats what its tuned for. ya know, that may be it.
I can't find octane requirements for the Camaro.

Not listed in http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:35 AM   #12
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I can't find octane requirements for the Camaro.

Not listed in http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf.
all the lsx engines require premium... and i hope i dont shoot myself in the foot with that comment. lol
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my bther has the new mustang, it's the v6 and it's probably the most awful car that I have ever driven. It drives like ****, road noise is awful, sounds like the drive train in always grinding and has the response of a Ford Fiesta.
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LS engines rule... Camaro FTW. The only Mustang I would consider buying is the GT500, if it could be had for $40k.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:44 AM   #15
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LS engines rule... Camaro FTW. The only Mustang I would consider buying is the GT500, if it could be had for $40k.
foolish. 03/04 cobra > gt500.
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all the lsx engines require premium... and i hope i dont shoot myself in the foot with that comment. lol
I think you might, but I can't prove that quite yet.
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foolish. 03/04 cobra > gt500.
i prefer the new body styling
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Wow, lots of ignorance at the rustang. Last time I checked, Camaros were unreliable pieces of chit, (Chevy's can't get a single car right anymore... show me a reliable new chevy) while Mustangs were actually one of Ford's better cars.

The only reason the V6 camaros come with 300 hp is so they can actually move their fat 2 ton ass. Oh, and we'll see how long their new untested V6 'monster' lasts.

The mustang motor is quite a reliable piece, and as already mentions runs on REGULAR. The 0-60 of the mustang gt is 5.1 if I recall correctly... hardly slow. Oh and how much does the SS cost?
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Wow, lots of ignorance at the rustang. Last time I checked, Camaros were unreliable pieces of chit, (Chevy's can't get a single car right anymore... show me a reliable new chevy) while Mustangs were actually one of Ford's better cars.

The only reason the V6 camaros come with 300 hp is so they can actually move their fat 2 ton ass. Oh, and we'll see how long their new untested V6 'monster' lasts.

The mustang motor is quite a reliable piece, and as already mentions runs on REGULAR. The 0-60 of the mustang gt is 5.1 if I recall correctly... hardly slow. Oh and how much does the SS cost?
You telling me Chevrolet is requiring >87octane on their V6?

Camaro V6 on 87 = 300hp.
Mustang V6 on 87 = 210hp.

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Wow, lots of ignorance at the rustang. Last time I checked, Camaros were unreliable pieces of chit, (Chevy's can't get a single car right anymore... show me a reliable new chevy) while Mustangs were actually one of Ford's better cars.

The only reason the V6 camaros come with 300 hp is so they can actually move their fat 2 ton ass. Oh, and we'll see how long their new untested V6 'monster' lasts.

The mustang motor is quite a reliable piece, and as already mentions runs on REGULAR. The 0-60 of the mustang gt is 5.1 if I recall correctly... hardly slow. Oh and how much does the SS cost?
When was the last time you checked?

True, The earlier LTI Camaros suffered from typical early 90's GM lousy interior and paint, but the LS1 cars were reliable, well made and completely embarrased similar year mustang GT's. And LS motors happen to be better in every way compared to Mod motors. Thats why you see so many Mustangs with LS's swapped in.

and Fox bodies? c'mon. I could see one used as an economical Drag racing shell, but quality? Highly dubious.

The Mustang will live on because it appeals to secrataries, hairdressers and old guys. I can respect the ford marketing and styling for these facts, but having driven a base model Mustang, ANYTHING is better than that unrefined, slow POS.
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Wow, lots of ignorance at the rustang. Last time I checked, Camaros were unreliable pieces of chit, (Chevy's can't get a single car right anymore... show me a reliable new chevy) while Mustangs were actually one of Ford's better cars.

The only reason the V6 camaros come with 300 hp is so they can actually move their fat 2 ton ass. Oh, and we'll see how long their new untested V6 'monster' lasts.

The mustang motor is quite a reliable piece, and as already mentions runs on REGULAR. The 0-60 of the mustang gt is 5.1 if I recall correctly... hardly slow. Oh and how much does the SS cost?


You should not be talking about ignorance.
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Ford should be using the 3.5 or maybe even the 3.7 duratec v6's in the six banger stanger. Actually I think once the new mustang motor lineup is announced, the v6 stang will be sporting one of those 2 in its base and the twin turbo 6 in the gt
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But the V6 Camaro has the same HP as the V8 Stang... for a lot less money.
I'm sure a Mustang at this price would compete with the new Camaro V6. Camaro V8 would beat it but cost a bit more obviously.

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The mustang is a freaking dinosaur it should be the cheapest "muscle car"
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You telling me Chevrolet is requiring >87octane on their V6?
Camaro V6 on 87 = 300hp.
Mustang V6 on 87 = 210hp.
Chevy V6 - Regular
Mustang V6 - Regular
Chevy V8 - Premium
Mustang V8- Regular

The chevy V6 is a new untested engine, sure it may pump out some serious muscle, but neither you, nor I know whether its gonna be a reliable, hardy, motor. Knowing MOST engines (barring LS's) coming from them have been piss poor, I will assume that this motor will be short-lasting.

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When was the last time you checked?

True, The earlier LTI Camaros suffered from typical early 90's GM lousy interior and paint, but the LS1 cars were reliable, well made and completely embarrased similar year mustang GT's. And LS motors happen to be better in every way compared to Mod motors. Thats why you see so many Mustangs with LS's swapped in.

and Fox bodies? c'mon. I could see one used as an economical Drag racing shell, but quality? Highly dubious.

The Mustang will live on because it appeals to secrataries, hairdressers and old guys. I can respect the ford marketing and styling for these facts, but having driven a base model Mustang, ANYTHING is better than that unrefined, slow POS.
Oh, I'm not saying that the LS engines are poor, they're some of the best engines in the world, but a car's long-term reliability is more than just their motor longevity. What would you say are the weak spots of most Chevys? Ungodly electrical problems? Body integrity? Oil leaks comming from every which way?


Lastly, I'm not a big fan of the mustang anyway. There are many other cars I'd rather own for the price. BUT, in terms of reliability and wanting it to last a few years, I'd take a mustang. I wouldn't be worried about buying a used one. But a camaro... not quite. I really hope they get the camaro right this time...
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