Subaru, Crawford and Foust set Buttonwillow track record for US built TA car

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 10:34 AM

Crawford Performance Slices 1.5 Seconds Off Time-Attack Best at Super Lap Battle 2008

US built record falls to Crawford Performance, Subaru and Tanner Foust.

November 12, 2008, Super Lap Battle: Crawford Performance gave their nasty little 2008 STI a tweak or two and sent Subaru hot-shoe Tanner Foust on to the big course at Buttonwillow Raceway, seeking to end their year with a strong note. To Crawford & company’s pleasure, their home-grown 2008 Subaru WRX STI outshone most of the field, in the process setting a record for American-built time-attack cars (second place in class) with a 1.47.052.

Prepped from the start as a time-attack car – it’s Crawford’s in-house bomber – the orange & black Crawford STI was expected to be quick, and without a quality performance the fast paint job would have looked somewhat silly. Crawford has made a reputation at track events by setting their phasers to deep-fry, and had to be fast to keep up appearances. Joined by several other Crawford-supported Subie efforts at the track, it didn’t help that additional pressure came from the extensive body of Japanese drivers at 2008’s Super Lap Battle.

Chopping 1.5 seconds off the previous American-built best, the Crawford-powered STI carried Tanner Foust to a series of fastest laps on Tuesday afternoon. Built to produce fast lap after fast lap (and not be a one-trick pony), the Crawford experience demands a reliable product that won’t flake after one lap. The engine is a race-spec S3L-I block which Crawford calls the SR3L-I, with Crawford’s big track heads and billet crank, managed by a MoTeC controller. Actually slowed for this event with an increase in wing, a sequential gearbox was bolted into the Crawford STI at the same time as springs were softened to increase feel and pliability on-track, while the anti-roll bars were stiffened front and rear to help Foust keep in touch with the tarmac on Buttonwillow #13’s high speeds and slight altitude changes.

The week’s performance and the killer lap times were almost lost before things started when builder Quirt Crawford took the STI for a setup run Tuesday morning. Doing his best Parnelli Jones impression, Crawford missed a cue at the Bus Stop left-hander. He clipped the inside curb and put the previously unmolested STI into the dirt on the outside. “… to Hell with slowing down, all I could think about was to avoid slamming on the brakes and flat spotting the tires!”

Regular support for Crawford Performance’s race program has come from industry stalwarts like Subaru, Tein (suspension), Garrett (boost), Motul (fluids), MoTeC (tuning), NGK (spark), Brembo (stopping), Cusco (drivetrain), Recaro (sitting) and Mackin Industries (rolling stock). Without their assistance, Crawford would have had a hard time building something this fast.

HD Video http://www.crawfordperformance.com/v...se?movieid=104

Troll through the archive kept by Crawford for a complete look at this year’s Super Lap Battle effort. Images are available of the car trackside and on-track (and the competition) at http://www.crawfordperformance.com/n....cgi?linkID=64. Crawford Performance and I-Speed USA can be found at 4168 Avenida De La Plata Suite. 116, Oceanside, CA 92056. Their phones work too – you can get them to pick up at 760.631.2927, or visit them online at crawfordperformance.com.

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joey1313 · 12-06-2008, 10:51 AM

US Built record? Is that an official record or just a fancy way of saying we didn't win and don't have the lap record against all competitors?

Having the US built record is alot like claiming to be the World's Tallest Midget. It may sound neat, but doesn't really mean much.

Joey

rjrutzky · 12-06-2008, 11:13 AM

Nice. Are the specs of the car top secret? That's not a KAPS tranny is it?

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey1313

US Built record? Is that an official record or just a fancy way of saying we didn't win and don't have the lap record against all competitors?

Having the US built record is alot like claiming to be the World's Tallest Midget. It may sound neat, but doesn't really mean much.

Joey

Your opinions are valid Joey, thankfully they are not shared by our competitors in the Time Attack community and Subaru as well.

Team Crawford

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjrutzky

Nice. Are the specs of the car top secret? That's not a KAPS tranny is it?

Yes Sir, that's a KAPS tranny.

I would venture to say that only 5% of the specs are top secret, do you have any special interests? I can run them up the ladder for ya!

Team Crawford

rjrutzky · 12-06-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford Performance

Yes Sir, that's a KAPS tranny.

I would venture to say that only 5% of the specs are top secret, do you have any special interests? I can run them up the ladder for ya!

Team Crawford

Thanks, if you wanna run down the list that would be awesome, but I was really interested in the tranny. I have been looking at the KAPS sequential system and have read a couple problems with phantom shifting. Yours seems to be well sorted. The gears seem really tight too. Spent alot of time in 5th and 6th. Final drive? Also, where can I get one of those killer Tein jumpsuits

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjrutzky

Thanks, if you wanna run down the list that would be awesome, but I was really interested in the tranny. I have been looking at the KAPS sequential system and have read a couple problems with phantom shifting. Yours seems to be well sorted. The gears seem really tight too. Spent alot of time in 5th and 6th. Final drive? Also, where can I get one of those killer Tein jumpsuits

Those killer Tein jumpsuits are so cool they come equiped with a mechanic to work on the suspension for you as well

I have not heard of the phantom shifting issue but I can tell you that they are tuff to set up when it comes to the shift cut system.

The final drive is the normal 3:90 but the actual gear ratios are tight.

Team Crawford

gr8r rex · 12-06-2008, 12:32 PM

Congrats! A run down on the car would be great! Especially suspension and what turbo?

blit182 · 12-06-2008, 01:01 PM

Congrats!

video link for the lazy peeps

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8r rex

Congrats! A run time on the car would be great! Especially suspension and what turbo?

We use the Tein Super Racing coilover kit on Tony. These are some of the features;

Pillow ball upper mounts
Inverted Mono-Tube design
Dual camber adjustment - one from the pillow ball mount and the other from the lower bracket
Spring seat adjustable
Shell case length adjustable
Separate compression and rebound adjustment (16x16)
Dual EDFC compatible - EDFC allows the driver to change the shock settings from the driver's seat.

For sway bars we use Cusco front and rear.

We have also modified the lower links on the rear suspension as well as the front uprights. This work was done in house as we have a full fab shop here at Crawford Performance.

The turbo we use on our race car is a Garrett GT35R, the same one we sell in our rotated turbo kits which can be purchased by Joe Public off our website!

Thanks,
Team Crawford

alwazsidwaz · 12-06-2008, 03:10 PM

Any plans on selling that rear wing to Joe Public???? lol j/k. Looks like the changes helped Congrats to whole team I think are in order. Tanner looks happy.

STi-MAN · 12-06-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey1313

US Built record? Is that an official record or just a fancy way of saying we didn't win and don't have the lap record against all competitors?

Having the US built record is alot like claiming to be the World's Tallest Midget. It may sound neat, but doesn't really mean much.

Joey

+1 you have entered the spin zone.

Great time tho.

any clue how you guys will make up the 3+ seconds? so you can really be the record holder? cutting weight? power?

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwazsidwaz

Any plans on selling that rear wing to Joe Public???? lol j/k. Looks like the changes helped Congrats to whole team I think are in order. Tanner looks happy.

We have sold plenty of the carbon rear wings to Joe! As for the carbon rear wing and Gurney combo, we have sold three of them to a race team. Does that count?

Yea, Tanner was pleased with his efforts!

wrxwhat · 12-06-2008, 03:56 PM

What Motec model are you using and who's tuning it?

SuicidalLabRat · 12-06-2008, 04:01 PM

The Kaps boxes don't have enough gear. I'm curious, are you using their ignition cut? I run a pneumatic/solenoid actuated paddle shifted system, and tuning blip downshift isn't particularly difficult with the Pectel, though I don't know what constraints your system has. I will say, the OE throttle bodies don't have the resolution for good blip downshifting ( actually, I don't know about the 08, but I assume it uses the same motor ). I had to keep sending my peddle box/throttle-pot and proposed throttle bodies back to Pectel to calibrate until we found a throttle body that would work - which ended up being a worked Carrera GT unit.
On an aside, last time I spoke with Radek at Kaps, he said they were considering some gear changes, do you know if that ever happened? Guess I should send him a mail...

SLR-

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxwhat

What Motec model are you using and who's tuning it?

We are using the new Plug and Play MoTeC ECU that is based on their M800. It’s a direct replacement to the stock ECU and connects to the stock wiring harness without an adapter.

It's tuned in house by Crawford on their DynaPack dyno.

Crawford Performance · 12-06-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuicidalLabRat

The Kaps boxes don't have enough gear. I'm curious, are you using their ignition cut? I run a pneumatic/solenoid actuated paddle shifted system, and tuning blip downshift isn't particularly difficult with the Pectel, though I don't know what constraints your system has. I will say, the OE throttle bodies don't have the resolution for good blip downshifting ( actually, I don't know about the 08, but I assume it uses the same motor ). I had to keep sending my peddle box/throttle-pot and proposed throttle bodies back to Pectel to calibrate until we found a throttle body that would work - which ended up being a worked Carrera GT unit.
On an aside, last time I spoke with Radek at Kaps, he said they were considering some gear changes, do you know if that ever happened? Guess I should send him a mail...

SLR-

We used their cut system on our Silver wide body car and it worked ok. Currently we are using the cut system in the MoTeC ECU and it is much harder to set-up. You can hear it in the video when it’s not perfect! We just needed more set-up time which we didn’t have at this event.

My last exchange with Radek was similar to yours although I have not received any new ratios as yet. Maybe we can both push him for some new toys!

Team Crawford

mick_the_ginge · 12-06-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford Performance

We use the Tein Super Racing coilover kit on Tony. These are some of the features;

Pillow ball upper mounts
Inverted Mono-Tube design
Dual camber adjustment - one from the pillow ball mount and the other from the lower bracket
Spring seat adjustable
Shell case length adjustable
Separate compression and rebound adjustment (16x16)
Dual EDFC compatible - EDFC allows the driver to change the shock settings from the driver's seat.

Thanks,
Team Crawford

I've been running the same Tein setup for two years and love it. I would like to ask if you changed out the springs which they are spec'ed with. If you don't want it public feel free to PM it to me.

mick_the_ginge · 12-06-2008, 11:12 PM

Oh and nice driving. Your driver needs a Han's or Hutchens Hybrid device IMO

SuicidalLabRat · 12-07-2008, 12:11 AM

I ping'ed Radek @ Kaps; we'll see what happens...

By the way, how are you managing to get the speed and resolution for true high speed blip downshift out of the low power motor and generally 'economical' OE throttle body and throttle POT!?

SLR-

trhoppe · 12-07-2008, 01:09 PM

They also have the record for the fastest orange/black car with black wheels.

THAT one is an official record

Crawford Performance · 12-07-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick_the_ginge

I've been running the same Tein setup for two years and love it. I would like to ask if you changed out the springs which they are spec'ed with. If you don't want it public feel free to PM it to me.

We changed the springs many times Mick. The changes were allways what the Tein guys recomended for the particular track

Team Crawford

Crawford Performance · 12-07-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuicidalLabRat

I ping'ed Radek @ Kaps; we'll see what happens...

By the way, how are you managing to get the speed and resolution for true high speed blip downshift out of the low power motor and generally 'economical' OE throttle body and throttle POT!?

SLR-

We call it the Tanner Foust effect!

Team Crawford

DS1 · 12-08-2008, 05:38 PM

Didn't we already kill the original one sided post about this?

mykrrrr · 12-08-2008, 09:05 PM

Congrats!

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12-06-2008, 10:34 AM	#1
Crawford Performance NASIOC Vendor Member#: 42075 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Oceanside	Subaru, Crawford and Foust set Buttonwillow track record for US built TA car Crawford Performance Slices 1.5 Seconds Off Time-Attack Best at Super Lap Battle 2008 US built record falls to Crawford Performance, Subaru and Tanner Foust. November 12, 2008, Super Lap Battle: Crawford Performance gave their nasty little 2008 STI a tweak or two and sent Subaru hot-shoe Tanner Foust on to the big course at Buttonwillow Raceway, seeking to end their year with a strong note. To Crawford & company’s pleasure, their home-grown 2008 Subaru WRX STI outshone most of the field, in the process setting a record for American-built time-attack cars (second place in class) with a 1.47.052. Prepped from the start as a time-attack car – it’s Crawford’s in-house bomber – the orange & black Crawford STI was expected to be quick, and without a quality performance the fast paint job would have looked somewhat silly. Crawford has made a reputation at track events by setting their phasers to deep-fry, and had to be fast to keep up appearances. Joined by several other Crawford-supported Subie efforts at the track, it didn’t help that additional pressure came from the extensive body of Japanese drivers at 2008’s Super Lap Battle. Chopping 1.5 seconds off the previous American-built best, the Crawford-powered STI carried Tanner Foust to a series of fastest laps on Tuesday afternoon. Built to produce fast lap after fast lap (and not be a one-trick pony), the Crawford experience demands a reliable product that won’t flake after one lap. The engine is a race-spec S3L-I block which Crawford calls the SR3L-I, with Crawford’s big track heads and billet crank, managed by a MoTeC controller. Actually slowed for this event with an increase in wing, a sequential gearbox was bolted into the Crawford STI at the same time as springs were softened to increase feel and pliability on-track, while the anti-roll bars were stiffened front and rear to help Foust keep in touch with the tarmac on Buttonwillow #13’s high speeds and slight altitude changes. The week’s performance and the killer lap times were almost lost before things started when builder Quirt Crawford took the STI for a setup run Tuesday morning. Doing his best Parnelli Jones impression, Crawford missed a cue at the Bus Stop left-hander. He clipped the inside curb and put the previously unmolested STI into the dirt on the outside. “… to Hell with slowing down, all I could think about was to avoid slamming on the brakes and flat spotting the tires!” Regular support for Crawford Performance’s race program has come from industry stalwarts like Subaru, Tein (suspension), Garrett (boost), Motul (fluids), MoTeC (tuning), NGK (spark), Brembo (stopping), Cusco (drivetrain), Recaro (sitting) and Mackin Industries (rolling stock). Without their assistance, Crawford would have had a hard time building something this fast. HD Video http://www.crawfordperformance.com/v...se?movieid=104 Troll through the archive kept by Crawford for a complete look at this year’s Super Lap Battle effort. Images are available of the car trackside and on-track (and the competition) at http://www.crawfordperformance.com/n....cgi?linkID=64. Crawford Performance and I-Speed USA can be found at 4168 Avenida De La Plata Suite. 116, Oceanside, CA 92056. Their phones work too – you can get them to pick up at 760.631.2927, or visit them online at crawfordperformance.com. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

12-06-2008, 10:51 AM	#2
joey1313 Scooby Specialist Member#: 53839 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Cartersville, GA Vehicle: 2005 STi, 94 Miata R 06 S2K	US Built record? Is that an official record or just a fancy way of saying we didn't win and don't have the lap record against all competitors? Having the US built record is alot like claiming to be the World's Tallest Midget. It may sound neat, but doesn't really mean much. Joey

12-06-2008, 11:13 AM	#3
rjrutzky Scooby Specialist Member#: 30367 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: nashville, tn Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT NASA SE PTB Champ	Nice. Are the specs of the car top secret? That's not a KAPS tranny is it?

12-06-2008, 01:01 PM	#9
blit182 Scooby Specialist Member#: 147084 Join Date: Apr 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Redlands, CA Vehicle: 2007 Impreza WRX STi SWP w/ Astrolux sticker	Congrats! video link for the lazy peeps

12-06-2008, 03:10 PM	#11
alwazsidwaz Scooby Newbie Member#: 133454 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Allentown Vehicle: 2004 Forester AW	Any plans on selling that rear wing to Joe Public???? lol j/k. Looks like the changes helped Congrats to whole team I think are in order. Tanner looks happy.

12-06-2008, 03:56 PM	#14
wrxwhat Scooby Specialist Member#: 87653 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 07 STI / 97 Supra 1700whp of fun	What Motec model are you using and who's tuning it?

12-06-2008, 04:01 PM	#15
SuicidalLabRat Scooby Specialist Member#: 4096 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Constantinople Vehicle: noun [ ve·hi·cle ] a carrier,as of infection	The Kaps boxes don't have enough gear. I'm curious, are you using their ignition cut? I run a pneumatic/solenoid actuated paddle shifted system, and tuning blip downshift isn't particularly difficult with the Pectel, though I don't know what constraints your system has. I will say, the OE throttle bodies don't have the resolution for good blip downshifting ( actually, I don't know about the 08, but I assume it uses the same motor ). I had to keep sending my peddle box/throttle-pot and proposed throttle bodies back to Pectel to calibrate until we found a throttle body that would work - which ended up being a worked Carrera GT unit. On an aside, last time I spoke with Radek at Kaps, he said they were considering some gear changes, do you know if that ever happened? Guess I should send him a mail... SLR-

12-06-2008, 11:12 PM	#19
mick_the_ginge Citizen Mick Member#: 27646 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle: 2003 Sleeved 2.5 Oil Dry Sump Goodness	Oh and nice driving. Your driver needs a Han's or Hutchens Hybrid device IMO

12-07-2008, 12:11 AM	#20
SuicidalLabRat Scooby Specialist Member#: 4096 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Constantinople Vehicle: noun [ ve·hi·cle ] a carrier,as of infection	I ping'ed Radek @ Kaps; we'll see what happens... By the way, how are you managing to get the speed and resolution for true high speed blip downshift out of the low power motor and generally 'economical' OE throttle body and throttle POT!? SLR-

12-07-2008, 01:09 PM	#21
trhoppe Scooby Guru Member#: 7492 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Hotlanta, GA Vehicle: No race cars www.tomhoppe.com	They also have the record for the fastest orange/black car with black wheels. THAT one is an official record

12-08-2008, 05:38 PM	#24
DS1 Vendor Member#: 111780 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Schaumburg, IL	Didn't we already kill the original one sided post about this?

12-08-2008, 09:05 PM	#25
mykrrrr Scooby Guru Member#: 733 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Squadra Delle Pecore Nere Vehicle: '13 Focus ST '85 GTi rally/road race	Congrats!