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Old 12-07-2008, 01:54 PM   #51
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how come they never smell new
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:07 PM   #52
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how come they never smell new
This part makes no sense! My Prius and the S2000 I test drove last night reeked of new leather and plastic.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:44 PM   #53
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I know a large portion of Honda's line is built in the US, while a decent number of Nissan's models are built here as well.

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Honda has been in Marysville, OH since what? 1982 I think? BMW in Greer SC since '99? They build X5's and Z3/Z4's there. Mercedes in Vance, AL. Hyundai is building in Mississippi if I recall correctly.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:03 PM   #54
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BMW in Greer SC since '99? They build X5's and Z3/Z4's there.
Longer I think. I graduated high school near there in '91. I remember the BMW plant was under construction then.

It was definitely up and running by 1993 at a minimum.

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Old 12-07-2008, 03:43 PM   #55
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that would stop anyone from buying domestic
It didn't help that my dad custom-ordered it with MT. I think they just used a tranny and shifter out of some sort of truck. Our next car was a Corolla and it seemed like a Ferrari after the Volare.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:03 PM   #56
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This part makes no sense! My Prius and the S2000 I test drove last night reeked of new leather and plastic.
It's a good thing. They've worked hard to remove all the harmful VOCs in new cars. It may smell nice, but it's hell on your liver.
American cars still smell, because, quite frankly, they don't give a damn.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:11 PM   #57
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They got some nerve to criticize people for not being loyal to the big 3 when (sometimes blind) customer loyalty is the only reason they didn't go out of business 10 or 20 years ago.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:12 PM   #58
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Longer I think. I graduated high school near there in '91. I remember the BMW plant was under construction then.

It was definitely up and running by 1993 at a minimum.
yore more right than me ('95 is first car off the line):

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September 20 – The first Z3 Roadster comes off the line ᅠ
July 12 – BMW Manufacturing is awarded ISO 9002 quality certification ᅠ
March 2 – First BMW 318i assembled in S.C. is shipped. The 23-month span from groundbreaking to the first shipment is considered the fastest automotive start-up in history ᅠ
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September 8 – The first American-made BMW, a 318i, rolls off the line ᅠ
July 11 – Associates begin work in the new facility ᅠ
January 4 – BMW hires associates for production ᅠ
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April 6 – Construction begins on a 1,039-acre site adjacent to Interstate 85 ᅠ
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September 30 – The groundbreaking ceremony for the first and only American BMW factory takes place ᅠ
June 22 – Plans to build a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in Spartanburg County, South Carolina are announced ᅠ
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:30 PM   #59
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Honda has been in Marysville, OH since what? 1982 I think? BMW in Greer SC since '99? They build X5's and Z3/Z4's there. Mercedes in Vance, AL. Hyundai is building in Mississippi if I recall correctly.
There is a huge hyundai plant in montgomery, AL. They are building a kia plant in Westpoint, GA. There are 1 or 2 honda plants in AL as well.

I wonder what the count of foreign auto manufacturers with plants in the US versus domestic manufacturers with plants in the US.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:33 PM   #60
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Here's another commercial....same dealership. More amusing than offensive this time.

250KB *.WAV file
the first commercial is stupid... this second one is flat out retarded. He's not even trying to sell cars in that one. He's admitting that the economy is crap and telling people to call their representatives.

How does that sell cars?

Go see OC and tell him he's an idiot.

Oh yea, why am I not surprised that the guy has an accent.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:42 PM   #61
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I used to live in Savannah, and I knew who you were talking about immediately. That isn't a new tactic for them in advertising.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:43 PM   #62
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There is a huge hyundai plant in montgomery, AL. They are building a kia plant in Westpoint, GA. There are 1 or 2 honda plants in AL as well.

I wonder what the count of foreign auto manufacturers with plants in the US versus domestic manufacturers with plants in the US.
There is a Toyota engine manufacturing plant in AL as well, building the 4.0L V6, 4.7L V8, and 5.7L V8 for the Tundra, Tacoma, and Sequoia. Toyota has a plant in West Virginia supplying engines to the Corolla, Matrix, RX350, and Sienna. They make transmissions for Highlander, RX350, Sienna, Camry, Avalon, Solara, and Venza. It has been a huge economic boost for my area.

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Old 12-07-2008, 04:47 PM   #63
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The ad was more than disturbing to listen to.

I think it's great they're trying to get people to blindly buy junk cars.

And or the writer of that radio spot. Try blaming the labor unions or putting American auto companies in a stranglehold. Some people just don't deserve to make as much money as they are.

Remember a few years ago when someone in Japan said Americans were fat, stupid and lazy? I thought that was the greatest thing ever.

I'll be down in Blufton at the end o this month and might have to stop by to see OC Welch just to pull their chain a little and see if they'll take my "rice ready" car as a trade. Of course, I won't actually be trading.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:51 PM   #64
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dont they realize we are doing something for america? we are buying cars like Toyota built here in the USA. Its not my fault that the US auto makers have put out complete **** for the past 30 years. news flash...I would never buy a monte carlo for $32,000 when I could buy a C class Benz, a Leg GT or something along those lines.

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well you could buy a ford fusion... if you want to support the mexican workforce. :/
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:54 PM   #65
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Nissan Altimas and maybe a few other cars are made in TN. You can't miss them, they sport a round blue sticker with 3 white stars on the windows (The TN state flag).
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:22 PM   #66
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Nissan Altimas and maybe a few other cars are made in TN. You can't miss them, they sport a round blue sticker with 3 white stars on the windows (The TN state flag).
Volkswagen is opening a plant in TN in a couple years. TN is a hotbed for Japanese based suppliers as well, with Aisin, Denso, Nippon, etc.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:36 PM   #67
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Rice ready, not road ready.

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Old 12-07-2008, 06:10 PM   #68
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My 99' Suburban was made in Mexico and my 03' Yukon XL was made in Canada.

US Jobs indeed. That's $90,000 (between the two) that paid for foreign labor.

Oh, and they were both colossal pieces of crap. I mean, the paint on the dashboard flaked off in 2 years...on BOTH $45,000 trucks. Plus dead transmissions, rear ends, transfer cases, head gaskets...

My WRX wagon in 5 years has broken once, at 98,000 miles, and it cost $35 and 20 minutes to fix.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:40 PM   #69
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I hate ignorant idiots.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:51 PM   #70
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wow that was an ad for a car dealership? It just sounded like some nutjob ranting and raving to me.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:55 PM   #71
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wow that was an ad for a car dealership? It just sounded like some nutjob ranting and raving to me.
There's a difference?
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:23 PM   #72
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You're not American if your not driving around in a peice of **** that gets 8mpg!
Like the small sedan that I drive that gets about 19mpg around town
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:47 AM   #73
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Some part content stats from cars.com:

* Ford F-150: 80% domestic content, down from 90% for '07
* Chevrolet Silverado 1500: 85% for '08, down from 90% for '07
* Toyota Camry/Solara: 68% for '08, down from 78% for '07
* Honda Accord: 60% for '08, down from 65% for '07
* Toyota Corolla: 50% for '09, down from 65% for '08
* Toyota Matrix: 65% for '09, down from 75% for '08
* Dodge Ram: 68% for '08, down from 72% for '07
* Honda Pilot: 70% for '09, same as '08
* Honda Civic: 70% for '08, up from 55% for '07

Not to mention Ford Escape nosedived from 90% in '07 to 65% in '08. Ford Edge plummeted from 95% in '07 to 68% in '08.

Meanwhile, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and Hyundai each have roughly 25% of their fleets in the US with at least 75% domestic part content.

As we all know, the numbers are way, way, way closer between foreign and domestic than these commercials would lead you to believe.
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:55 AM   #74
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Like the small sedan that I drive that gets about 19mpg around town
And that couldn't have anything to do with your driving, could it?

<-- Got 22-23 MPG around town with his '02 WRX when he wasn't driving like an asshat.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:11 AM   #75
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i lost it laughing @ "rice ready, not road ready"


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check out the VP, the owner's 10 year old kid


edit: reading > me, just read the whole thread. i lose
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