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Old 12-08-2008, 09:21 AM   #76
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Thanks for sending money my way to Japan. 'preciate it.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:33 AM   #77
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anyone look at their used inventory? they have a couple toyotas, a few honda/acuras, along with a few other imports

I would love to see him try to sell someone the toyota.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:26 AM   #78
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We've had some less offensive commericals for domestic cars here in New England -- mostly someone urging us to be patriotic and buy American.

I'm not too worried about people vandalising foreign cars here -- Subaru is practically the state car in Vermont, closely followed by Toyota.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:12 AM   #79
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It's mostly states like Ohio and Illinois where the vandalism is a problem.

I guess it's more unlikely in the Southeast since it's the "imports" that are being built down here, and those are the ones providing jobs.

heh....maybe it's the Chevy's that will start getting vandalized!
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:38 AM   #80
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"...fool me twice...you can't get fooled again..."
Unfortunately I had need of a very large vehicle with 4wd at the time....and there was no substitute from Japan. The Toyota Sequoia was close but not quite what I needed.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:02 PM   #81
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<<<Lives in Savannah. This guy is a moron, I drive by his lot everyday and laugh everytime I see that huge lot of TRUCKS and SUV'S sitting there. The chevy lot next to his is the same way. I can't wait til they are gone.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:40 PM   #82
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<<<Lives in Savannah. This guy is a moron, I drive by his lot everyday and laugh everytime I see that huge lot of TRUCKS and SUV'S sitting there. The chevy lot next to his is the same way. I can't wait til they are gone.
Yeah....I think they are advertising something like $10k off of "work trucks" and $16k off of Super Duty.

So do they have that much of a markup, or are they just trying to get rid of inventory they can't otherwise sell?
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:58 AM   #83
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http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/...ap5803321.html

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By RUSS BYNUM , 12.10.08, 09:06 AM EST
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A Ford dealer angered over the proposed bailout of U.S. automakers blames the nation's sour economy on Congress and criticized buyers of Japanese cars, calling the vehicles "rice ready ... not road ready" in a radio ad.

O.C. Welch, who owns a dealership near Savannah in Hardeeville, S.C., began airing the minute-long ad on a dozen stations in the area over the weekend. The ad sounds more like a talk-radio tirade than a sales pitch.

"All you people that buy all your Toyotas and send that money to Japan, you know, when you don't have a job to make your Toyota (nyse: TM - news - people ) car payment, don't come crying to me," Welch says in the ad. "All those cars are rice ready. They're not road ready."

Floyd Mori, executive director of the Japanese American Citizens League, said Welch's remarks evoke anti-Asian sentiments often aimed at Japanese and Chinese immigrants to the U.S. from the 1930s through World War II. He also noted many Japanese automakers' cars are manufactured in America.

"It's a blatant, ignorant, racist remark from somebody who should know better," Mori said.

Toyota spokesman Xavier Dominicis said the company's cars consistently receive high marks for quality. The automaker employs 36,600 Americans, he said, and about 60 percent of Toyota vehicles sold in the U.S. were manufactured here.

"How do you tell a worker in Kentucky who's producing a Toyota that his job is worth less than another American autoworker's?" Dominicis said.
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The car dealer, though, said Tuesday he had received more positive calls than negative ones. His dealership sold 15 new cars Saturday - half of them to people drawn to the lot by the ad, he said.

Welch said he's mostly mad at politicians, blasting them in his ad as only being good for "slinging mud and spending our tax dollars." He said the government should offer tax incentives for consumers to buy new cars rather than spend money bailing out Ford, General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) and Chrysler.

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Old 12-12-2008, 12:44 PM   #84
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(CNN) -- With the top U.S. automakers in economic survival mode, the mantra, "Buy American," is a frequent cry among those trying to save jobs at home.

"How you define an American car is one of the great conundrums of this world," said Dutch Mandel, the editor and associate publisher of AutoWeek.

Fewer than half of the parts on some Big Three vehicles are made in the U.S.

Looking at a Ford Fusion? It is assembled in Mexico. The Chrysler 300C is assembled in Canada, but its transmission is from Indiana; the brand's V-8 engine is made in Mexico. Engines in the Chevrolet Equinox sport utility vehicle are from China.

On the other hand, Toyota's Camry is comprised 80 percent of parts made in the United States, and 56 percent of Toyota's vehicles sold in the U.S. also are made here, according to Toyota spokeswoman Sona Iliffe-Moon.

The Toyota Sienna and Tundra also have 80 percent of their parts manufactured in the U.S.

"When you have manufacturers from around the world building cars in the U.S. with 85 percent domestic content -- engine, transmission, assembly -- is that an American car?" Mandel asked. Or, he asks, is it considered foreign because the profits go back to a foreign country?

"It's truly a global industry," said Thomas Klier, a Chicago, Illinois, economist who co-authored "Who Really Made Your Car?" an encyclopedic analysis of the auto industry melting pot. Watch how U.S. auto woes affect Asia

"When you think of buying American, you should focus on three points -- its engine, transmission and where it was assembled," Klier said.

To get that information, read a vehicle's window sticker. U.S. automakers are legally required to detail the origin of a car's parts and its final assembly point.

"Unfortunately, there are few people who know about the sticker or even bother to look at it," said Bernard Swiecki, a senior project manager at the nonprofit Center for Automotive Research in Michigan, which follows trends in the industry.

The sticker's details were news to Douglas Sullivan, 43, a truck driver from Snellville, Georgia. Though he prefers foreign brands, believing them to be of higher quality, he said he used to favor U.S. brands because he wanted to support American workers.

"I wanted to keep the jobs right here," Sullivan said.

Swiecki said many people think about image of a brand, rather than the way that brand has evolved over decades as the market has grown more diverse and competitive.

"They will think, 'I'm buying a GM, I'm getting an American car,' " Swiecki said.

Foreign car manufacturers generate billions of dollars in jobs and community infrastructure in the U.S., but there is a difference between Detroit's economic footprint and that of its foreign rivals.

The Center for Automotive Research says Detroit's Big Three employed almost 240,000 people in the U.S. at the end of 2007. Foreign makers had about 113,00 U.S. employees at the time.

The key difference in how the Big Three and foreign brands support jobs in the U.S. comes outside the factories, according to a 2006 study by the Level Field Institute, a group formed by Big Three retirees in Washington.

"What's driving the difference in jobs ... is investment in research, design, engineering and management," Level Field President Jim Doyle said in a statement on the 2006 study.

The Center for Automotive Research said the Big Three had 24,000 engineers on U.S. payrolls in 2007. The Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association said its member companies had 3,500 U.S. research and development employees in 2007.

Level Field found that every 1,000 vehicles sold by Detroit's Big Three in the U.S. support more than twice as many jobs as 1,000 vehicles sold by foreign nameplates.

Most Americans consumers understand that the industry is global, Swiecki said, and they are more savvy than ever in purchasing vehicles.

"For the most part, gone are the days of people going to a car lot and paying a buck to take a swing of a hammer at a foreign-made car," Swiecki said.

But there are exceptions.

A Savannah, Georgia, Ford dealer sold 15 cars last weekend after he ran a radio ad blaming Japan for Detroit's financial funk.

While 15 was substantially better than weekends before the ad, dealer O.C. Welch said, it was still about half of the business he did a year ago.

"All you people that buy all your Toyotas and send that money to Japan, you know, when you don't have a job to make your Toyota car payment, don't come crying to me," Welch says in the ad. "All those cars are rice ready. They're not road ready."


Sullivan, who was at an Atlanta, Georgia, dealership Thursday to pick up his American brand minivan from the service department, said he has had a different experience.


He said the vehicle has given him trouble, and whenever he replaces it, he'll probably go with a foreign brand, regardless of whether any of the parts were made in the United States.

"What I look for is good gas mileage, and when I pay it off in four or five years, it's still running," said Sullivan, who has owned several American and foreign brands. "It seems I get better quality with a foreign car."
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:54 PM   #85
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"How come Import cars don't smell like new cars"??? LOL! What a loser. I love the way my Subaru smells.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:58 PM   #86
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But I thought Subaru is an Australian company??
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:01 PM   #87
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But I thought Subaru is an Australian company??
Good enough for me....they speak American down there anyway.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:04 PM   #88
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But I thought Subaru is an Australian company??
I actually had someone say that to me seriously about our '97 Outback.

Almost every part I've changed on my Chevy was made in Mexico. Good thing I bought American, huh.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:12 PM   #89
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It's mostly states like Ohio and Illinois where the vandalism is a problem.
are you serious?
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