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Old 12-12-2008, 03:33 AM   #1
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Default So if Big 3 Fails, What kind of deals will I be seeing?

I want a F250 6 speed diesel.

for cheap.

please?
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:34 AM   #2
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I want a F250 6 speed diesel.

for cheap.

please?
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**** pickups

Been almost killed by them too many times.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:35 AM   #3
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I want a F250 6 speed diesel.
why???
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:38 AM   #4
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why???

why not?
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:41 AM   #5
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why not?
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:41 AM   #6
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:41 AM   #7
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What do you mean "if"? They failed long ago.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:42 AM   #8
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think i can scoop up a CTS-V cheap?
wishful thinking : (
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:47 AM   #9
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think i can scoop up a CTS-V cheap?
wishful thinking : (
+1 (crosses fingers and wishes)
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:00 PM   #10
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:14 PM   #11
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It depends on if they go into Chapter 7 or Chapter 11. I doubt Ford is going to go under.. Chrysler is prime candidate for it though. Maybe a 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel fully loaded for 22k.. No Warranty and No guarantee for part availability.
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Old 12-13-2008, 06:19 PM   #12
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Cheap priced cars with no warranty's
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Old 12-13-2008, 06:22 PM   #13
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Ford isn't going under. They've publicly said they have enough cash on hand that they don't need a bailout.

Chrysler is a goner though me thinks. I hope someone picks up Jeep, 'twould be a shame to see it disappear.
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Old 12-13-2008, 06:27 PM   #14
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Airlines went chapter 11 many times and they were never any "deals".
My thinking is that you'll see fewer products and higher prices rather than any deals for the consumer. However if you're looking for an old auto or parts factory and all the equipment in there, then there might be deals for you.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:32 PM   #15
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damn,i want a cheap silverado 2500hd CCSB,need to replace my 1500. lol
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:39 PM   #16
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Silverado 2500 with teh DMax! YEAH!
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:40 PM   #17
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think i can scoop up a CTS-V cheap?
wishful thinking : (
You better beat me there.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:41 PM   #18
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Yeah, so what's the best diesel that they will be dealing on?
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:17 PM   #19
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It depends on if they go into Chapter 7 or Chapter 11. I doubt Ford is going to go under.. .
Ford's situation is 100% tied to GM and Dodge. the metaphor I like best is Think of the 3 like like distance runners with 100 lb packs on. It any of your competitors suddenly drop their packs, If you stand any Chance against them, you better drop your pack just as soon as you can.

The biggest difference I see between the airlines and this deal is you get a service from the airlines and a long term product from the auto companies. As long as I get from here to where I want, I don't care what name is painted on the plane. When the trip is over, so is our relationship. No one will buy a car from a bankrupt car company.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:25 PM   #20
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:34 PM   #21
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Here is a good post from another forum that sums it up
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Another big problem is that most people don't know what is really going on. The media has mis-labeled the whole situation as a "bailout", when it in fact, is not. It is an offer to the U.S. Government pitching an investment opportunity. They are not asking for free money, they want the government to invest in them. The big 3 will be paying the money back as part of the deal. The same thing happened 30 years ago with Chrysler and this solution worked perfect, and they were actually in a worse position back then. Ford does not need the help, Chrysler only needs some, GM is the big ****-up right now, and I truly don't blame GM too much. The problem is what consumers have been programmed by the media and peer pressure to think. How many people when looking for a non-truck, or non-V8, in general, even give a GM car a serious thought? The public has been brainwashed into thinking that the foreign companies are the only ones capable of producing a economy car. It doesn't matter how nice or how good the quality is, that's a huge hurdle to overcome in sales. Combine that with people not being able to get loans and it's not a good outcome. It's also ridiculous how ignorant people are to the R&D american companies have put into alternative fuels. All the money they have dumped into that isn't making things any cheaper either. While they were building too many trucks they were also researching alternate fuels. Of course they make plenty of cars too, but people just bought hondas instead when they were in the market for a car.

As already stated also, the safety **** is a big problem. All the weight of all the features and size required to pass safety regulations these days makes it difficult. We were getting 40mpg with gasoline cars in the 80s no problem, but now everyone wants their 40mpg to come with 37 airbags, power everything, TVs, Nav, and all the fancy ****. Sorry morons, but if you want to be that stingy on fuel efficiency then you're gonna have to give **** up.

Also, you can't compare this to the airlines. The airlines can declare bankruptcy and still sell tickets, because the planes are still going from A to B. If any of the big 3 declared bankruptcy it'd be the end of all sales. Even though they wouldn't be disapearing that quick, so much of the american public is too ****ing stupid to understand this and just wouldn't buy because of it.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:38 PM   #22
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As already stated also, the safety **** is a big problem. All the weight of all the features and size required to pass safety regulations these days makes it difficult. We were getting 40mpg with gasoline cars in the 80s no problem, but now everyone wants their 40mpg to come with 37 airbags, power everything, TVs, Nav, and all the fancy ****. Sorry morons, but if you want to be that stingy on fuel efficiency then you're gonna have to give **** up.


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Old 12-13-2008, 08:43 PM   #24
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Here is a good post from another forum that sums it up
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:10 PM   #25
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The biggest difference I see between the airlines and this deal is you get a service from the airlines and a long term product from the auto companies. As long as I get from here to where I want, I don't care what name is painted on the plane. When the trip is over, so is our relationship. No one will buy a car from a bankrupt car company.

I was around when the airlines first started going bankrupt. The argument was then that people would be afraid to fly because of substandard safety from a bankrupt airline.
Now the argument that people won't by from a bankrupt car company is silly. All they do is reorignized themselves and come bank as a "new" company. Look what Datsun did when they became Nissan. Look how Hundai droppped out of the US market and then came back.
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