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Old 12-09-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default I know I screwed up... I went with Cobb for my 09

The springs were a total downgrade (bought them a month ago as soon as I bought the car). Has anyone heard anything yet on if there are any companies designing sways/springs etc for the 09?? Perhaps springs designed for the sti?

I am probably going to put the stock springs back on this weekend.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:17 PM   #2
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your car is still really new.. i'd wait for a little while
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:26 PM   #3
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Put the stock springs back on. The Cobb's are way too low on the 08+ model. RCE is working on springs for the 08+ STi's, which will mate very well to the stock struts. They are doing a redesign last I heard so a few months out.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:29 PM   #4
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Put the stock springs back on. The Cobb's are way too low on the 08+ model. RCE is working on springs for the 08+ STi's, which will mate very well to the stock struts. They are doing a redesign last I heard so a few months out.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:58 PM   #5
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Oh, and due to the similarities with the 09 WRX's damping in the shocks any 08+ STi springs will mate up very well.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #6
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What was wrong with the stock 09 stuff? It may have been stiffer.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:33 PM   #7
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I just went with the springs because I wanted to lower the car a bit...

but yea I saw the thread by rce, ill probably just wait till they release some springs as although the sti springs are probably similar, I dont want to run into any of these compatibility problems again...
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:42 PM   #8
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there is a new "jdm" pink spring from STi (not the one offered for the 08 WRX stateside)

moderate lowering w/ a good bump in spring rates, it's made for the STi but would work nicely w/ the 09 dampers- downside- hard to come by and pricey
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:45 PM   #9
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The springs were a total downgrade (bought them a month ago as soon as I bought the car). Has anyone heard anything yet on if there are any companies designing sways/springs etc for the 09?? Perhaps springs designed for the sti?

I am probably going to put the stock springs back on this weekend.

Same for me. Was not aware that the 09 factory stuff was 30% stiffer than 08 factory stuff, so put on Cobb springs that were advertised as 20% stiffer than the 08 stuff.

I put the stocks back on, and my car felt more controlled.

Last night the H&R springs went on, (pt.# 54462) and then a 75 mile drive.
I'll add observations after the alignment.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:40 PM   #10
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were the h&r springs stiffer than the oem 09?
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:51 PM   #11
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were the h&r springs stiffer than the oem 09?
My take so far.
Drop is 1.5 front, 1.0 rear, as measured- compared to stock measurements.

Springs seem to slightly overpower the dampers ability to absorb road imperfections.

The highway I was on was not the smoothest. Has lots of asphalt wear, dips and patches, up and down elevations, and curves. I was in the dark the whole 70 miles home and I could see that the headlights of my car were indicating more of a bounce than with the stock springs. I could also feel more of the road through my seat.

So... to your question.
I don't know how H&R measures, and they keep that info. to themselves mostly.

I would think they are a little stiffer, as the stock struts
did not control them like they do the stock springs, but that's an un educated guess on my part.

Has anyone yet tried the stock 08 STi springs on an 09 WRX ?
That might be worth a shot too.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:57 PM   #12
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I bet the drop was too much and you're riding on bumpstops. Can explain the strange handling.

09 WRX and 08+ STi struts/springs are pretty much the same. Maybe slight differences in damping and spring rate, but nothing to write home about.
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:10 PM   #13
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I bet the drop was too much and you're riding on bumpstops. Can explain the strange handling.

09 WRX and 08+ STi struts/springs are pretty much the same. Maybe slight differences in damping and spring rate, but nothing to write home about.
wow, did they use the SAME combo? are the sti's inverted?
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:29 PM   #14
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I bet the drop was too much and you're riding on bumpstops. Can explain the strange handling.

09 WRX and 08+ STi struts/springs are pretty much the same. Maybe slight differences in damping and spring rate, but nothing to write home about.
Are you commenting on my car with the H&R's ?

If it were riding on the bump stops, I would not get much movement at all would I ?
And... wouldn't there be noise associated with it if that were the case ?
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:33 PM   #15
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I have what sounds to be a squeaking clank whenever I hit a bump (cobb springs). The car also feels really soft.

If I am going to do springs again, I want to make sure I get it right then have to swap them once more...

So would you recommend the h&r?
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:34 PM   #16
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I read somewhere that the first 5% of the stroke on h&r is softer than stock (08) but firms up to 35% after that
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good info to know. I will want a mild drop in the spring on my 09. the stock ride/handling is pretty good, but want less wheel gap I think (I will admit, mostly for looks).

Anyone know the 09 stock spring rates?
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09 WRX spring rates are 216/193- if I was a betting man I'd bet they came right out of the STi bin. The 09 went to the STi front top as well.
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09 WRX spring rates are 216/193- if I was a betting man I'd bet they came right out of the STi bin. The 09 went to the STi front top as well.
thanks, will compare around!
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09 WRX spring rates are 216/193- if I was a betting man I'd bet they came right out of the STi bin. The 09 went to the STi front top as well.
front tophats? are they stiffer? comparable to group n's? i am not sure if it is right, jus tryin to interpret what was written, correct me if im wrong
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:31 AM   #21
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All I know is that some company needs to release an 09 specific spring asap!
Or something that will be beneficial with lowering the ride height a bit (everyone knows they dont like a 4x4) haha. but really? Although its better than having blown struts...

My cars suspension just sounds really really bad on the cobb springs.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:30 AM   #22
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The 08+ design is very suspension travel limited from what RCE and TIC have said over the last year or so. Any decent performance spring is probably only going to lower the front in the neighborhood of 15mm would be my guess.

As for riding on bumpstops...people do it all the time and think it's the springs that are giving them the "stiffer than stock ride". It's worth investigating as a 1.5" drop is pretty huge IMO and it'll be a good check to see just how limited the 08+ models truly are.
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Setting the 09 WRX front spring next to an 08 STi front spring, reveals a lower(1/2"?) spring for the STi.

The STi spring coil appears to be thicker though. So it may be the same height when compressed by the weight of the vehicle

If I had those STi springs here at my house, I would put them on my car to compare, but, they are 70 miles away with the beginnings of a winter blizzard for the trip to get them.
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STi springs are usually 10-15mm lower than WRX springs of the same year (roughly 0.5"), so that's normal. Thicker coils usually means easier to reach coil bind.
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front tophats? are they stiffer? comparable to group n's? i am not sure if it is right, jus tryin to interpret what was written, correct me if im wrong
stiffer than the 08 WRX tops- yes. they only offer metal/pillowball mounts for the Grp N 08/09's (very pricey btw) so if I had to guess- yes they would be on par w/ the previous gen rubber Grp N tops
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