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Old 12-14-2008, 08:22 PM   #1
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so i had one of the worst weekends in my automotive history ive been rebuilding my entire 05 sti rebuilt the motor nd had to reinstall it all and its all finally done sat afternoon so i pulled it out of the garage and decided to let it warm up to temp it was runnin pretty bad but running after about 5min BOOM seized a ring.. sux but f it im tryin to look at the positive i have a full sleeved built block w8ting for my future setup 40r spray etc..... but i wanna no if i built my block with the basics cp pistons eagle rods arp head bolts and the other regular bolt ons with my sr56 and a high meth mix could i hit ~450whp with a nice trq curve around 400-425?????
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:08 AM   #2
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if you build your block with the above parts you will definitely be able to brag about some proven power....that is if you don't blow up the new motor
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:36 AM   #3
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so i had one of the worst weekends in my automotive history ive been rebuilding my entire 05 sti rebuilt the motor nd had to reinstall it all and its all finally done sat afternoon so i pulled it out of the garage and decided to let it warm up to temp it was runnin pretty bad but running after about 5min BOOM seized a ring.. sux but f it im tryin to look at the positive i have a full sleeved built block w8ting for my future setup 40r spray etc..... but i wanna no if i built my block with the basics cp pistons eagle rods arp head bolts and the other regular bolt ons with my sr56 and a high meth mix could i hit ~450whp with a nice trq curve around 400-425?????
Who built the motor? How did the ring seize?
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:05 AM   #4
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was the base map on the car good? AFR good etc?
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:56 AM   #5
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holyrunonsentencewhyishtisinprovenpowerbraggingand whywouldyourmotorfailonstartupathomedidntyouhaveto driveithomefromtheshop
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:03 AM   #6
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holyrunonsentencewhyishtisinprovenpowerbraggingand whywouldyourmotorfailonstartupathomedidntyouhaveto driveithomefromtheshop
myheadreallyhurt'srightnow lol

anyway's ether the ring gap wasn't in spec or it was running so rich that it washed the oil right out of the cylinder's
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:29 AM   #7
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myheadreallyhurt'srightnow lol

anyway's ether the ring gap wasn't in spec or it was running so rich that it washed the oil right out of the cylinder's
it was def running WAY rich but i was in the middle of connecting the utec nd it just seized......

nd as far as driving home from the shop i built it all with my own two hands in my garage...

alsothe prob was i was bein cheap and used old 05 pistons i had layin around with 40k on them with old rings...............
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:44 AM   #8
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it was def running WAY rich but i was in the middle of connecting the utec nd it just seized......

nd as far as driving home from the shop i built it all with my own two hands in my garage...

alsothe prob was i was bein cheap and used old 05 pistons i had layin around with 40k on them with old rings...............
Wait... you were CONNECTING the UTEC while the car was RUNNING???!!!
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:37 AM   #9
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alsothe prob was i was bein cheap and used old 05 pistons i had layin around with 40k on them with old rings...............
B pistons in A holes maybe???
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:45 AM   #10
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this thread fails!
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:41 AM   #11
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so i had one of the worst weekends in my automotive history ive been rebuilding my entire 05 sti rebuilt the motor nd had to reinstall it all and its all finally done sat afternoon so i pulled it out of the garage and decided to let it warm up to temp it was runnin pretty bad but running after about 5min BOOM seized a ring.. sux but f it im tryin to look at the positive i have a full sleeved built block w8ting for my future setup 40r spray etc..... but i wanna no if i built my block with the basics cp pistons eagle rods arp head bolts and the other regular bolt ons with my sr56 and a high meth mix could i hit ~450whp with a nice trq curve around 400-425?????
Grap on my tired?
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:12 AM   #12
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do yourself a favor and have the bottom end build by a shop!
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:19 AM   #13
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While I admire people like you for taking on projects that may be a little above their ability, I must say, I don't feel sorry for you one bit. You'll probably say you're not looking for sympathy, but to mess something like that up so bad while almost bragging that you did all the work yourself then making a post in the wrong forum...well, you must be looking for sympathy....

Better luck next time, and I hope all your credit cards are paid off before you go ahead and try doing this again...
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:56 AM   #14
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based on reviewing your past posts, it appears you didnt know what u were doing completely. Take it to a shop next time, i would love to rebuild the engine mysefl too, but i would like to watch it a few times and have some training before attempting that task.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:04 PM   #15
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What were you P/W clearances and ring gaps? I bet you had file fit rings that you didn't file to fit or you just dropped in pistons without measuring, and measuring again.
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:17 PM   #16
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Wait... you were CONNECTING the UTEC while the car was RUNNING???!!!
exactly what i was thinking
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:37 PM   #17
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its cool you did it yourself, and its cool you screwed it up the first time. you were supposed to. it's the second or 3rd time that makes the "i built it myself" statement so braggable. if it were easy it wouldn't be worth bragging about. good luck.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:30 PM   #18
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:54 PM   #19
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he probably meant he was connecting the UTEC to his laptop to log.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:55 PM   #20
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why use short versions of words that only save you 1 letter? Like w8ting...

just "wonderin"
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:11 PM   #21
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he probably meant he was connecting the UTEC to his laptop to log.
Phhht... that would make entirely too much sense.

(I figured, but this was a more interesting mental image)

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Old 12-15-2008, 05:32 PM   #22
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Sorry to hear my friend.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:43 PM   #23
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with my sr56 and a high meth mix could i hit ~450whp with a nice trq curve around 400-425?????
The SR56 has never been known for its ability to hit big numbers! I guess you could hit 450whp on a REALLY high reading dyno *cough*Dynojet*cough*....just for referenceBUT i know dyno numbers are dyno numbers.....I have a cosworth shortblock along with the SR56 turbo will FMIC and all supporting mods (in otherwords not just simple bolt ons) I made 391whp on 100oct
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:21 PM   #24
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B pistons in A holes maybe???
A holes, indeed.

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Old 12-15-2008, 09:28 PM   #25
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it was def running WAY rich but i was in the middle of connecting the utec nd it just seized......

nd as far as driving home from the shop i built it all with my own two hands in my garage...

alsothe prob was i was bein cheap and used old 05 pistons i had layin around with 40k on them with old rings...............
Thats your problem I bet. Did you even measure the clearances or the ring end gaps? If your going to be a cheap bastard when you rebuild something its not going to work.
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