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Old 12-15-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
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Ok... I had an 07 WRX. Loved it.... AutoXed like every weekend. But now I have switched to an 08 STi and have a few questions about how to set it up the best for either A-Stock or STU. Can you please give me info on how to set it up? Suspension settings, any modifications you did. Wheel / Tire combo?

Also where do you set the Center diff settings? More front? More rear? Locked?

Please help me out. I want to have another awesome year and any help at all would be awesome!

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Old 12-16-2008, 12:07 PM   #2
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No One has any imput on this?
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:10 PM   #3
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What clubs will you be racing with?

Best bet will be STU though.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:13 PM   #4
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No One has any imput on this?
Looks like this was moved to Motorsports from another forum.

There's lots of information within this particuar forum (Motorsports) on how to set up almost any Subaru for auto-x, including the STi. One just needs to look for it via the search feature. Lots, and lots of info based on class you want to compete in.

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Old 12-16-2008, 12:21 PM   #5
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I do SCCA racing, raced here every event last year in SM. But now with a change in cars and not as fimilar with A-Stock or STU just wanted imput from people who have already ran a season with an 08 STi.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:22 PM   #6
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I do SCCA racing, raced here every event last year in SM. But now with a change in cars and not as fimilar with A-Stock or STU just wanted imput from people who have already ran a season with an 08 STi.
My 1st post in this thread has all the answers you are searching for. I'm being nice. Really.

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Old 12-16-2008, 12:35 PM   #7
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I have found tons of already usefull info on wheel and tire combos, what sway bars to run if I do STU, what type of mods allowed I already knew about. I also had a good idea of what to set the aligment to.

My main question I can not find a good answer to. It is how to set the Center diff settings? More front? More rear? Locked? My 07 WRX did not have all this fancy stuff. T did not also have a traction control button. So as far as getting in and driving it I just turned the key, and shut everything else off. Please give me input on these settings.....

The owners manual only says stuff like Place in LOCK if stuck in Dirt or Snow, Place to the rear for dry pavement...... is this optimal? I just watched Top Gear last night and the STIG prefered full Rear for road racing.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:42 PM   #8
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I have found tons of already usefull info on wheel and tire combos, what sway bars to run if I do STU, what type of mods allowed I already knew about. I also had a good idea of what to set the aligment to.

My main question I can not find a good answer to. It is how to set the Center diff settings? More front? More rear? Locked? My 07 WRX did not have all this fancy stuff. T did not also have a traction control button. So as far as getting in and driving it I just turned the key, and shut everything else off. Please give me input on these settings.....

The owners manual only says stuff like Place in LOCK if stuck in Dirt or Snow, Place to the rear for dry pavement...... is this optimal? I just watched Top Gear last night and the STIG prefered full Rear for road racing.
That is going to be something that you are going to have to figure out on yourself based on your preference as a driver. Everyone is different. When I drove a AS prepped one...I turned off the traction control and put the DCCD in sport and did something else that i dont remember (I felt like i was driving a spaceship everytime i got ready for a run cause i had to adjust so many things)...in short i like all driver aids turned off and the center diff to transmit power as need (ie not fully locked and not all the power to the rear but automatic mode).
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:56 PM   #9
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Traction control - OFF

DCCD - really personal preference. i normally leave it on AUTO, few times i have tried "AUTO -", it's really personal preference. i would not use LOCK, that will probably cause bad things to happen

S.Drive - S#. (if you aren't running a tuned map, and even then S# should be your autox tuned map if you are in a class that allows tunes.)
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:09 PM   #10
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^ That is what I figured about the S.Drive System. The DCCD I need to play with then when the roads clear up and see what I like. Do you just push the traction button to turn it off? Or do you have to hold like in some cars?

Also just read an amazing artical on sway bars on the STi. Looks like doing a large front will help understeer. I may try this for A-Stock to start out with.
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Yeah that and some nice struts and you will be free to get used to the car and its gizmo's without worrying about the other parts of your setup that come with STU.

As far as the dccd goes it is really personal preference. I personally like mine in auto because of how well it sticks for me in the slaloms. There's another guy in my region that swears by putting his 06 one spot up from full rear and it works well for him. I'm willing to bet though that either "auto -" I think it is in the 08's (the more aggressive dry setting) or one of the more rear oriented manual settings will be the best and allow some throttle oversteer.
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AS: really nice "Big" front Sway, some decent struts, a lighter weight cat-back, better Front Brake pads, better brake fluid, another set of 18x8.5 wheels with 285/35/18 R Comps...Done

STU...Sway bars front and rear, rear strut bar, coilovers, Turboback with a Cat, STU legal tune, Brake lines, Fluid, Lightweight wheels, 'Grippy' Tires whatever they are this year...Lighten the car up as much as the rules will allow....lighter seats...

Thats what I would do if it were my car..that would get me in the ballpark at most national events...

Oh yeah...the diffs...."Auto" and "Sport"

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What do you reccommend for Decent Struts.... and does that BIG frot bar help the understeer problem?
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Bilstiens maybe for the struts...don't know of many adjustable struts for the 08

and yes...27-29 Whiteline for the front bar will "help" with the understeer..
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It will actually help with the body roll which is helping your understeer problem. Your rolling way to much for the camber you can achieve on stock adjustments. That's pretty much why it works.
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Anyone have a link as to where is the cheepest to pick up that bar?
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Do you just push the traction button to turn it off? Or do you have to hold like in some cars?
yes you just turn it off by pushing it.

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Bilstiens maybe for the struts...don't know of many adjustable struts for the 08

and yes...27-29 Whiteline for the front bar will "help" with the understeer..
FYI for 08+ owners the 08 suspension is a different then the 04-07, and according to whiteline the 24mm bar they make (currently their largest for the 08+ platform) performs much like the 27/29 bar on the old body style.

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Anyone have a link as to where is the cheepest to pick up that bar?
prices should all be pretty close, but can't go wrong w/ Turn in Concepts: http://www.turninconcepts.com/produc...1ef67f816b20a1


as for struts i don't think there are a lot of adjustable strut options out there yet. for A stock, Koni inserts or a custom AST setup are probably they ways to go for now.

for coilovers for STi there are a lot of options. i just ordered a get of AST 4100s w/ Vorshlag camberplates from Vorshlag, i can't wait to get them.
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http://www.importimageonline.com/

By far the best vendor I've ever dealt with as far as both pricing and customer service (and I've dealt with many), trust me and just try cross shopping. He's got all the whiteline stuff. If you don't see it on his website give him a call or a pm and he'll find it for you and go out of his way to get it to you in a reasonable time.
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I like perrin's bars too. Just as effective as whiteline IMO.
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For A Stock I'd go with...295x30 r18s Hoosiers.
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By far the best vendor I've ever dealt with as far as both pricing and customer service (and I've dealt with many), trust me and just try cross shopping. He's got all the whiteline stuff. If you don't see it on his website give him a call or a pm and he'll find it for you and go out of his way to get it to you in a reasonable time.
^ I like Perrin and that is one heck of a price on them
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For A Stock I'd go with...295x30 r18s Hoosiers.
the trouble with that is it will be really hard to fit those on Stock Sized wheels without a bunch of pinch on the rim... You would need at least 9.5's or perferably 10's to fit those 295's...285's on 8.5 is really pushing it anyways..and you will still have the tires pinched on there...but I understand you wanting to get rid of them too..

Understand about the front bar....thanks for the info..

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The 295 Hoosiers fit better than the 285 Kumhos. If I had to do it all over again I'd go straight to STU. AS is an uphill battle against cars that are better set up for autocross, and the car is really tough on tires (our Hoosier 275s lasted five events)

If you are going AS, get the biggest bar you can find.
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I tried both set on the car 295/30 and 285/30 on the car and they both fit. The one thing that happens with the 285/30 though is you loose gearing and when it comes to AS you want as much as you can get with the STI and the 295/30 is way easier to mount on the rim. I was able to get a 32mm Niles Front Sway Bar on the car you actually have room for a 34 or maybe more. If your willing to spend the money the AST shocks are the way to go I had them on mine and the were awesome my car transformed from marshmallo to rock solid with the Niles bar and AST shocks. I always used Auto-,S#,DCCD off it seemed to work the best.

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