Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday August 22, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Tire & Wheel Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Tire & Wheel

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-17-2008, 01:45 PM   #1
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default 08 STI snow set-up ordered

So, I will let y'all know how it runs and fits when I get them on. Found the smallest rim I could that still indicated it would fit. Going to be 17X7 running 215/55 Hankook icebear W300 (V-rated). According to all the numbers they should be fine.

I will update this post next week once they are situated.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2008, 11:57 AM   #2
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Well, after the delay with all the weather the rims and tires have arrived. I am going to pick up a rim and mount it to check for sure the clearance before having the tires mounted. I would otherwise just drive the car over but it is on jack-stands due to the sale of the OEM rim/wheel combo. Tire place said if for some reason the rim does not fit that they will exchange them.

Crossing fingers...
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2008, 12:40 PM   #3
neko
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 46500
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Idaho
Vehicle:
'04 FXT & '98 L

Default

i've encountered several 17x7's that fit the sti brakes and even leave huge amounts of brake clearance versus the factory wheels (what i'm using currently for snows). I run 225/45/17 Hakka 2's, with significant studdage, and i love it. Makes for better snow driving when the roads are bad enuf not to drive my Civic.

I just hope those 55 series give ya enuf clearance under the fenders. I am only slightly lower than stock (jdm STi pink springs), and i really pack the snow up in there, and have to clear it out every few days since i don't have a heated garage to melt it every night.

If only someone could find some 16's some day that clear the stock Brembos.
neko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2008, 04:02 PM   #4
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neko View Post
If only someone could find some 16's some day that clear the stock Brembos.

ha! that would be some serious casting!

I test fitted the rim with no tire. The fit is fine, so now the issue, possibly more that the clearance to the fender (up top) to is the clearance to the spring-perch with the tire on. I will post a bunch of pics when it is all said and done. I will try to get the camera inside to shoot all the major clearance issue spots.
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #5
DJSuperSoul
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 120004
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: beavertron
Vehicle:
2xx8 STI
grey

Default

you will rub on the inner fender andy, at least that is my thoughts after reading the above
DJSuperSoul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2009, 12:15 AM   #6
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

it will be interesting to see. old (oem) radius = 12.9" new 13.2"; side-wall 3.9" vs 4.7". F/R one side bolted on...still on jacks...damn rain.
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2009, 05:14 PM   #7
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

They fit by a hair. The issue is just before full lock. The fender liner has this rib running its length which is where the near hang-up is. But no rubbing while turning at full lock so I am happy.

I went to take pics and my battery died (in my camera that is). Bummer since i went home at lunch to do this since there has been a nice break in the rain/snow today. I might even shoot a vid of the wheel turning in there

Rims: MB Boost (20lbs), 17x7 +38
Tires: Hankook icebear W300 (V-rated): 215/55
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 06:09 PM   #8
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default Photos!

First here is the over-all look:


Here is the rib in the back that makes them "just fit":


Straight-line clearance up front:


Caliper Clearance:


Slightly smaller surface area against the rotor:


Behind the wheel clearance:
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 06:10 PM   #9
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Just barely clearing up front when at/coming into full lock:
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 08:45 PM   #10
RS_to_WRX_swap
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 40337
Join Date: Jul 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Bay Area
Vehicle:
95 L Coupe Swapped
99 Outback

Default

Finally you get to drive your STi again!

Some of the pics are too zoomed in to really tell whats going on. But the last pic looks like a spacer whould help.
RS_to_WRX_swap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 08:48 PM   #11
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

Should of just bought 215/45/17 instead of gigantic 55's
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 04:39 AM   #12
RS_to_WRX_swap
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 40337
Join Date: Jul 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Bay Area
Vehicle:
95 L Coupe Swapped
99 Outback

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Drift View Post
Should of just bought 215/45/17 instead of gigantic 55's
Next time...

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Before you talk.
RS_to_WRX_swap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #13
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RS_to_WRX_swap View Post
Next time...

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Before you talk.
...uh? His 55's are too tall and hes going to rub. If he bought 45's he would have more clearance. I don't need calculators to tell me that.
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 02:14 PM   #14
RS_to_WRX_swap
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 40337
Join Date: Jul 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Bay Area
Vehicle:
95 L Coupe Swapped
99 Outback

Default

What the op bought is less then 1/3" closer to the fender. What you said is .6" smaller then stock. Thats changing the gearing a fair amount and puts more miles on your odometer then you are driving. Not the best thing if you care about resale value. However the shorter gearing might help performance. My point is 55 series tire is not that tall, or " gigantic", on a 215 width tire. Remember the "55" is a ratio of the width. I don't think his issue is from tire diameter, instead i think the issue is wheel offset. I haven't seen it in person, so this is just a guess.
RS_to_WRX_swap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 02:36 PM   #15
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

The stock rubber is 245/45/18...If he used 215/45/17 the height of the tire would be the same. He is now using a 55 tire. That is too tall to fit. Even the WRX only uses 205/50/17.

I don't think anyone cares about the speedo or odometer readings.
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 04:28 PM   #16
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Drift View Post
The stock rubber is 245/45/18...If he used 215/45/17 the height of the tire would be the same. He is now using a 55 tire. That is too tall to fit. Even the WRX only uses 205/50/17.

I don't think anyone cares about the speedo or odometer readings.

245/40/18 are the OEM size.

I have used and continue to use both the wheel size calculator and off-set calculator to spec this set-up and my pending summer 17x8.5 set-up. And just because you get all the numbers working does not mean it will for sure work under the car unless someone has done the exact set-up. And as pointed out, I might try a a 45 next time which will change from OEM the speedo another 2%.
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 04:33 PM   #17
RS_to_WRX_swap
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 40337
Join Date: Jul 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Bay Area
Vehicle:
95 L Coupe Swapped
99 Outback

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Drift View Post
The stock rubber is 245/45/18...If he used 215/45/17 the height of the tire would be the same. He is now using a 55 tire. That is too tall to fit. Even the WRX only uses 205/50/17.

I don't think anyone cares about the speedo or odometer readings.
Wow, i don't think you could fit anymore incorrect information in one post. Stock rubber with the 5 spokes is 245/40/18.

A 245/45/17 and a 215/45/17 DO NOT HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT. The middle number is not a unit, it is a ratio of the width...broken record.

I hate being the dick on nasioc, but you are either a troll, or a complete moron. BTW if the stock rubber was 45 series then he put on what you suggested the difference would be over 2" in diameter.
RS_to_WRX_swap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 04:45 PM   #18
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RS_to_WRX_swap View Post
I hate being the dick on nasioc,
You've been a dick since your first post quoting me. All I said was that he should of gotten 45 series tires which still would be smaller in diameter than his 55's and he wouldn't have his current issue of them rubbing. You however, decided to use insults, so thanks for adding to the nasioc stereotype.

Your insulting post should of never been made and none of this would of happened. I was correct in my 1st post, regardless of the following posts which didn't take into account that he was switching from 40/18 to 45/17.
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 07:26 PM   #19
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Easy boys, easy.

No rubbing. The last test will be four adults in the car and if it rubs it will only be just before full lock.
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 07:53 PM   #20
Daishi00
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 78952
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: BSG junkie
Vehicle:
2005 WRX
CGM

Default

The 55 is NOT the issue. .3" taller is not causing any problems. it's a wheel offset issue. Your suggestion is to run a smaller tire than stock height which will negatively affect both his speedometer and odometer.
Daishi00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 08:01 PM   #21
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daishi00 View Post
The 55 is NOT the issue. .3" taller is not causing any problems. it's a wheel offset issue. Your suggestion is to run a smaller tire than stock height which will negatively affect both his speedometer and odometer.
Who cares about the speedo being off by a few MPH? If the wheels are rubbing at full lock he is going to wear the tires down or damage the suspension. Who runs the same size as stock? The WRX came with 205/50or55/16's back in 02, no one runs that still.

Subydude sells Torques w/ e35 for 17's on an 08 STI.
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 08:11 PM   #22
Daishi00
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 78952
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: BSG junkie
Vehicle:
2005 WRX
CGM

Default

OMG, you really are dense aren't you? 0.3" is NOT what would be causing a rubbing issue, which the OP is not having.

Secondly you want to keep the same final diameter, which is going to vary between the width and the sidewall height as it's a RATIO. Do you understand this?
Daishi00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 08:16 PM   #23
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NYC
Vehicle:
4 Train - Subway
Past: 05, 08, 11 Red WRXs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daishi00 View Post
OMG, you really are dense aren't you? 0.3" is NOT what would be causing a rubbing issue, which the OP is not having.

Secondly you want to keep the same final diameter, which is going to vary between the width and the sidewall height as it's a RATIO. Do you understand this?
So if its not the taller tires, he just needs a better offset. ok.
Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #24
tazswing
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 63767
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2009 OXT 5-spd
2011 STi hatch

Default

Thus far, it is NOT rubbing.

And speedo/odom. are indeed not my concern. Maintaining as close to stock size to keep the suspension geometry as close as possible is which in effect accounts for the speedo issue.

As for the off-set the rim comes in +38 and +48. I found out about the +48 after ordering. Called the place I ordered from and said are you sure the +38 offset is the way to go? They said yes.

The +38 retracts the wheel by only 2mm while a +48 retracts by 12mm (obviously). So visually the +38 is going to look nicer with the fender flairs keeping the tires looking like they are closer to the OEM position. With the larger offset the tire would be pulled in more and likely, I feel, would cause more issues.

I think idealy with the design of these rims would be the following:

215/50R17, 17x7 +38. This way we get the 2mm tuck in with the off-set, and only a .2" difference in radius however, it would be .2" smaller rather than .3" larger. So, after I kill these tires (which should not take long since they are snows) I will try that aspect ratio set-up and things would be very sweet from there.

Luke sells the Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 in this size which are the snows I have on my WRX and love. It will be interesting to compare the Hankooks but now I am thread jacking my own thread!
tazswing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2009, 10:30 PM   #25
Daishi00
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 78952
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: BSG junkie
Vehicle:
2005 WRX
CGM

Default

Don't worry, only one guy kept saying you were rubbing. The rest of us got it

A +48 would never fit with a 7" wide wheel and clear Brembo's...not a chance in hell, so +38 is the only option you have. That unfortunately has all sorts of compromises because of it though
Daishi00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TW New 08 Sti Brake set up Rat^3 Suspension/Brakes/Handling 21 07-10-2010 06:48 PM
WTT 08+ STI Brake set up for 18's or... Rat^3 Private 'Wanted' Classifieds 1 02-17-2010 07:05 PM
08 STi -- Custom set of KW Clubsports Stinji SCIC Private Classifieds 1 12-24-2008 03:35 PM
*Special Closeout!* VOLK LE28N 18x9.5 +42 for 08+ STi - Last set!! InjectedPerformance Wheels/Tires 11 12-02-2008 02:18 PM
Project Mu BBK for 08 STI now Availible for order! SpeedElement Suspension/Brakes/Handling 3 08-12-2008 08:18 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.