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Old 07-13-2014, 08:25 PM   #1
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I bought a 2008 wrx sedan with 34,000 miles in July 2011 now it has almost 60,000 miles, never had any issues with the car until I let my dumbass friend borrow it for a day! Now it's knocking really bad, oil level is still good the oil is pretty dark though, I do all my oil changes my self an was wondering if this is gonna be a problem with the warranty company! Also I have an after market Cobb intake. Does anyone think I should put the stock one back on? If so does anyone have a stock air box for sale? I just don't know if having an aftermarket intake will be a problem with the warranty! Also should I change oil before I take it in to the shop? PLEASE HELP
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:52 PM   #2
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Not that this helps your problem but you definitely want to have a tune with most intakes.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:13 PM   #3
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Well being the powertrain warranty is for 5 years OR 60,000 miles which ever occurs first. You may not even have to worry about what to do for the warranty unless you bought an extended warranty as well.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:26 PM   #4
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No one is going to suggest putting the stock intake on because that is warranty fraud.
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:22 AM   #5
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Remember where you posted this information... I would do "Nothing" just take the car in!! You're already building the case against yourself. Changing your oil is not going to help you at all. Why would you do all of this? Makes no since... MSG : You wouldn't lie to a Doctor about something seriously wrong with your health would you? Just keep it simple and you'll be fine.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:25 AM   #6
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I bought a 2008 wrx sedan with 34,000 miles in July 2011 now it has almost 60,000 miles, never had any issues with the car until I let my dumbass friend borrow it for a day! Now it's knocking really bad, oil level is still good the oil is pretty dark though, I do all my oil changes my self an was wondering if this is gonna be a problem with the warranty company! Also I have an after market Cobb intake. Does anyone think I should put the stock one back on? If so does anyone have a stock air box for sale? I just don't know if having an aftermarket intake will be a problem with the warranty! Also should I change oil before I take it in to the shop? PLEASE HELP
Pay the piper. You weren't smart enough to do your research before you put the intake on the car then you gotta pay.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:29 AM   #7
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Don't let dumb friend borrow car, **** don't let anyone borrow car.
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Old 07-14-2014, 08:07 AM   #8
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It sounds like you modified your engine without the proper supporting tune. You probably never really beat on your car, so no real damage was done. Then you let your 'friend' borrow your car, and, being the true 'friend' he is, he beat the snot out of it and it blew up.

Do you remove your intake? No. It's your responsibility. Tell your 'friend' he has to pony up some money for repairs to your car that he was so kind to beat on and blow up for you.

Either you pay to play, or he does. Probably a little of both.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:16 AM   #9
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No one is going to suggest putting the stock intake on because that is warranty fraud.
I'll suggest it.

Everyone assumes the intake led to his issue. That casually ignores the fact that these motors spin bearings all the time, stock and modded. May have been a contributing factor, maybe not. But rest assured, Subaru will use it to deny coverage. While I wouldn't normally condone putting stock parts back on, I guess I just don't have a problem with Subaru having to shell out for some of the "maybe/maybe not" cases, given the fact that they can't build a reliable engine. A full exhaust, or some other serious power adder, OK, probably not. But just an intake? I've seen the logs, the intake isn't causing a huge problem, it's just slightly magnifying the fueling issue that exists with the stock tune.

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Old 07-14-2014, 10:08 AM   #10
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never had any issues with the car until I let my dumbass friend borrow it for a day! Now it's knocking really bad, oil level is still good the oil is pretty dark though, I do all my oil changes my self an was wondering if this is gonna be a problem with the warranty company!
first, i would make your friend cover any bills that should arise when Soa decides to deny warranty coverage of your engine knocking.

second, get an oil change.. might need one after your friends hard driving.
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:09 AM   #11
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first, i would make your friend cover any bills that should arise when Soa decides to deny warranty coverage of your engine knocking.

second, get an oil change.. might need one after your friends hard driving.
You do not want to pull the car into a dealership with a spun bearing and fresh oil in the car.
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:35 AM   #12
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I have the stage 1 map installed so that isn't the issue
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:36 AM   #13
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Also it's a Cobb cold air intake not a intake manifold
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:48 AM   #14
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I have the stage 1 map installed so that isn't the issue
The stage 1 map might be an issue for any engine warranty work though.....
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:55 AM   #15
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Up front, you should be prepared to pay for the diagnosis out-of-pocket before assuming that the warranty applies first.

Any repair-shop, be it the dealer or an independent, has a right to charge a diagnostic fee or fees before it is determined that the warranty does apply, whether in part or in whole. Also, a dealer is an independent business entity that happens to retail a manufacturer's product. It is the manufacturer that makes the decision as to whether to honor a factory warranty, should that be the case.

If an aftermarket / 3rd party (non manufacturer) warranty plan is involved, the up-front costs may have to be paid, less a deductible, and then you as the owner has to seek reimbursement from the warranty company.

Regardless that your car has an aftermarket intake and has been tuned, you let your friend borrow the car and now there are problems. Taking the car in under the presumption this is a warranty issue may be akin to fraud.

You should, if you have not already done so, speak to your friend and make it clear that he may be responsible for certain damages as a result of his inappropriate driving. That is unless you both agreed that he would borrow your car to, for example, compete in an auto-x event. Then you are both responsible for your actions as a motorsport event and the resulting damages is/are not a warranty/warrantied item/items.

You are effectively self-insured until it is then determined that the warranty steps-in.

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