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View Poll Results: Do you own/lease a 2009 WRX and have you experienced engine failure?
Yes 47 21.56%
No 171 78.44%
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:51 AM   #51
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Considering that out of the people that voted no, there are at least 4 (and possibly more by the time this is posted) that have no mention of owning an 09 in their profiles, it would appear that I am not the only one to have made an 'improper inference'.

FYI... I am not an English major, nor did I ever claim to be. Your wording was not as clear as it could have been right off, so I brought it to your attention so that you might actually have better luck in getting the info you were intending to find.

If you choose to take offense that's your own problem.
Can a mod please remove the votes from people that don't have 09's to make this a bit more accurate. Really people why vote no if you don't have an 09? That's not going to help anyone.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:37 PM   #52
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No problem yet at 2750 mi- I haven't posted enough so can't vote.

Would it seriously depreciate the car if it needs a new engine?
I love these posts. "3000 miles and still running strong!" Well, it better be!
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:55 PM   #53
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^^^^^^^^ Those are my favorite posts as well.
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:28 PM   #54
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I love these posts. "3000 miles and still running strong!" Well, it better be!
If you'd replaced the engine at 150 miles, it would be appropriate. It's alo pertinent to the thread topic. Why post in this thread if you don't have a 2009 WRX?

I can report on my other Subarus. Still going strong at 189,000, 107,000, 62,000.

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Old 01-01-2009, 11:46 AM   #55
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If you'd replaced the engine at 150 miles, it would be appropriate. It's alo pertinent to the thread topic. Why post in this thread if you don't have a 2009 WRX?

I can report on my other Subarus. Still going strong at 189,000, 107,000, 62,000.
What a sad state of affairs, then if engines are being replaced at 150 miles. I'm happy for your high milage Subies, that is how its supposed to be. When the bean counters are in control, engines get replaced at 150 miles and Subaru's rock solid reliability is a thing of the past.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:09 PM   #56
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What a sad state of affairs, then if engines are being replaced at 150 miles. I'm happy for your high milage Subies, that is how its supposed to be. When the bean counters are in control, engines get replaced at 150 miles and Subaru's rock solid reliability is a thing of the past.
How long have you owned a Subaru?
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:19 PM   #57
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How long have you owned a Subaru?
I don't know why thats pertinent, but, since 2001 I have had an '97 legacy outback wagon, an 02 wrx sedan, an 05 sti, an 07 sti and my wife had an 03 outback sport and currently has an 05 forester xt. None of them had engine problems and my 07 sti has 37000 miles with no problems (other than bad window squeeks) when others were grenading engines.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:22 AM   #58
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Subaru's rock solid reliability is a thing of the past.
sigh... I wish I had saw your post before I bought the car~ Really dissapointed in Subarus in general... A quick question does deep snow affect the rear diff? I have been experiencing rattle noise since the first snow fall 2 weeks ago, but it comes and goes. Just really annoying sitting in the car waiting for green light and the rear rattles louder than the engine...
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:37 AM   #59
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sigh... I wish I had saw your post before I bought the car~ Really dissapointed in Subarus in general... A quick question does deep snow affect the rear diff? I have been experiencing rattle noise since the first snow fall 2 weeks ago, but it comes and goes. Just really annoying sitting in the car waiting for green light and the rear rattles louder than the engine...
That's usually just a heat shield on the exhaust. Dealer fix in about 5 minutes.

I knew about these problems, bought the car just the same, and it's been great: even after waiting a week for a new engine. Don't regret this purchase at all. Read this forum and you'll see people grenading these cars in all kinds of ways, but they take a lot of abuse.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:15 AM   #60
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I cant understand how you can use the words "its been great"......and having a brand new car blow its engine in the same sentence.

All that matters is that you are happy.
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #61
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almost 6,000 miles and no problems yet. hopefully itll stay that way
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:22 AM   #62
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^ build date? thanks
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:43 AM   #63
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There is no way Im going to try and figure out who has what car that voted on the poll.

The tin-foil hat club can continue with this thread, but kee it on topic or its gone.

kthxbai! :wavingkitty:
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:54 AM   #64
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^ I don't think there is any way to definitively figure out who drives what
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:20 PM   #65
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I have an 09 WRX, one week since delivery. 380 Miles.
So far no issues. This being my first post, I am unable to partake in the poll. Additionally, I won't post to the poll until at least 2500 Miles.

I had an '05 EVO MR that had a spun rod bearing after 1200 miles. I ended up claiming lemon on that car since it took Mitsu over 1 month to repair (in Ohio lemon law is three times for same issue or in service for over 30 days for any issue). That was a royal pain, and I can empathize with those of you who are going through this. It is frightening for any 09 owner to read this and the other thread. I know I bought a new car and that includes a factory installed engine. Dealer technicians can be good, hell, they can be great, but they can also suck. When I had the issue with my Evo, I got the car back and the mechanic connected the wrong vac hose for the turbo and I was getting only half the boost I saw prior to the engine being replaced. Nobody at the dealership believed me that the boost should be more. It took a call to AMS in Illinois to convince them.

The moral of the story - it would take a damn good technician to match the work of the factory, and after shelling out over $26,000 I don't think any owner should accept anything less than what the factory could produce. You have no idea how well that new short or long block was installed.

As somebody stated early - a window motor, a sensor, a wheel hub - whatever, replace it - but the entire motor?? That's a tough pill to swallow.

Anywho, I welcome myself to the club! I have been reading it for years, just now have a reason to post. Hopefully I will have 20 posts by the time I hit 2500 miles.

FWIW - This is my second Subaru, had an 07 2.5i and loved it so much I needed it's bigger badder brother. I never once had to bring the 2.5i to the dealer outside scheduled maint.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:21 PM   #66
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Here we go - post #2

For those of us that have not participated in the poll, can somebody please share the results as they stand to date? I would love to know how it is looking.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:16 PM   #67
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Here we go - post #2

For those of us that have not participated in the poll, can somebody please share the results as they stand to date? I would love to know how it is looking.
You can view the poll results. Just click on the tab. Failure rate is running at 18% which isn't very reassuring.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:03 AM   #68
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You can view the poll results. Just click on the tab. Failure rate is running at 18% which isn't very reassuring.
I have a real real hard time believing that is accurate -- I'd almost bet it's 5-10x overstated there, if it weren't, there'd be a stop-sale out already... (again)
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:00 AM   #69
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You can view the poll results. Just click on the tab. Failure rate is running at 18% which isn't very reassuring.
18% of what?
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:36 AM   #70
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You can view the poll results. Just click on the tab. Failure rate is running at 18% which isn't very reassuring.
%18 of the people that voted, I really doubt that every 09 owner on NASIOC has chimed in.

But I'm sure some moron will call me out and claim conspiracy because of who signs my paychecks
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:01 AM   #71
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You can view the poll results. Just click on the tab. Failure rate is running at 18% which isn't very reassuring.
That's whacked. You really think Subaru has only sold 80 2009 WRX's in the US? It's a poor sample and you din't really know the people voting do or do not have problems.

I'm reassured it's so few. There were nearly four hundred head gasket threads on Ultimatesubaru and other sites when the Phase I 2.5l's started popping.
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Old 01-09-2009, 03:27 PM   #72
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I have a real real hard time believing that is accurate -- I'd almost bet it's 5-10x overstated there, if it weren't, there'd be a stop-sale out already... (again)
Who said it's an accurate representation of the failure rate of WRX's? We know it's not accurate because it already has been posted that some members that don't even own 09 WRX have voted 'no'. We also know that there are hundreds and thousands not accounted for which means only Subaru knows the truth and will never provide the exact rate. This is just a way to get a ballpark idea of the possible scale of the issues. From this sample it would be safe to assume that the issue is much larger than what you normally see from any auto manufacturer.

The only 'morons' in this thread are the ones that continue to make light of the issue or pass judgement that it's not a big deal. Low odds or not someone will get the short end of the stick and nobody wants that to be that person that has their new car's engine ripped out before they even make their first payment.
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:21 PM   #73
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Hi everyone,

This is my first post here, although I've been reading since I got my baby 2009 WRX November 14th. I can't post in the poll, but I have over 5500 miles on my car and my engine has been fine (although I am not a mechanic, nor do I understand engine noises very well). I think I would probably be able to tell if it had blown up, though...

I love the thing! Although it's my first performance car, and it feels a lot different from that first test drive. Now I think it takes more to phase me, and already I've bought a Cobb AccessPORT 2.0 for it, for the 38 extra whp. Should be arriving tomorrow... Would loading stage 1 make it more likely I blow my engine? Or would it already have happened?
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:45 PM   #74
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Please people I think you should stop saying:

"200 miles and everything ok" or "bought last week and still good".

I think only people with more than 3000 miles should vote WHEN their car is FINE.

If not, we are going to have hundreds of votes with people that just bought the freaking car! The poll is going to become useless.
BECOME?



The original post should be reworded "IF you own a 2009 WRX," not "do you?" as the answers A) and B) both imply ownership, but don't require it for a correct answer.

As it is currently worded, I can answer NO, and corrupt your data, simply since I DO NOT own a 2009 WRX.

I know that sounds nitpicky, but think about the logic behind your poll, and consider the target audience here (smart-asses like me).

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Old 01-13-2009, 03:49 PM   #75
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How long have you owned a Subaru?
My guess would be since at least 2001.

Look at his member ID. He's in the 4000s, and has been a member since '01.

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Can a mod please remove the votes from people that don't have 09's to make this a bit more accurate. Really people why vote no if you don't have an 09? That's not going to help anyone.
ROTFLMAO - I'm sure they'll get right on that!

I'd say, change the wording as suggested by myself and others, so the question is less ambiguous.

The erroneous wording was the FIRST thing I noticed. I was able to resist clicking "NO," however, as I know what you meant. Many fols here are a little too smartypants for that.

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