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Old 12-20-2008, 01:12 PM   #1
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The killing off of the body-on-frame Dodge Durango and Chrysler Aspen SUVs—the hybrid versions saw just a short, mayfly-like lifespan of August 2008 to January 2009—combined with four-dollar-per-gallon gas had us wondering if Chrysler might get out of the big hauler game entirely.



On the contrary, we can now confirm that Chrysler plans a next-generation Durango after all. We were shown a mock-up of the future Durango, and the new styling is well done. No other details were released, but considering that GM abandoned body-on-frame SUVs in favor of its Outlook, Acadia, Enclave, and Traverse crossovers and that the next-generation Ford Explorer will move to a unibody platform, we’d expect the new Durango to follow suit. There was no mention of a Chrysler version, or when we might expect to see the next Durango on the road.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:39 AM   #2
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This is why they deserve to die.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:07 AM   #3
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:00 PM   #4
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Looks like they put it on a Grand Cherokee platform?

Sigh. Good ol' Detroit, still treating sunk costs as assets. With cash so tight, why would they even bother with this? Sell the tooling for these to China and retrench with improvements to your core models (Jeep GC, Caravan, Wrangler, 300C). Everything else is just junk (or a flash in the pan -- Challenger/Charger) and is sinking you.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:30 PM   #5
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Few people hate SUVs more than I do, but I can understand that the market for large SUVs might have shrunk dramatically (finally!), but it is still a very profitable one if you have the right product. More than almost anything else, Detroit needs profitable vehicles right now.

If the Durango is moving onto the Grand Cherokee platform (something that it should have been on from day one), and these vehicles were nearly redesigned already before this financial mess really kicked in, then there is no reason not to bring them to market.

The problem is not that Detroit sells large SUVs... that was never the problem.
The problem is that they aren't offsetting these behemoths with small, fuel efficient cars.

Bring out a new Durango as long as you know that it's sales aren't gonna be anywhere near the sales volume of the old model, but also bring out some competitive smaller cars. Cars that can go up against the Fit and Civic and even a good mid-sized car too.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:14 PM   #6
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i hope they fail, if any of the three deserve it its chrysler
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:51 AM   #7
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I'm neither a fan of SUV's or even the Domestic 3, but I like the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Unquestionable off-road ability, max tow rating of 7200#, Hemi V8. Don't know the gas mileage, but for those who need/want these kind of attributes, this is a good platform. On the other hand, the Jeep Commander is a POS. Huge, lumbering gas hog without comparable interior space, in addition to terrible interior quality and fit and finish.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:34 PM   #9
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:36 PM   #10
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I'm neither a fan of SUV's or even the Domestic 3, but I like the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Unquestionable off-road ability, max tow rating of 7200#, Hemi V8. Don't know the gas mileage, but for those who need/want these kind of attributes, this is a good platform. On the other hand, the Jeep Commander is a POS. Huge, lumbering gas hog without comparable interior space, in addition to terrible interior quality and fit and finish.
These are actually good driving trucks. I dont like the looks though!
I agree, the Grand Cherokee is a good truck for the $....but all others SUCK a$$, aka> Commander, liberty and the other smallish suv's they have. They suck. I dislike (not hate cause they are what they are) the jeeps also, Nothing newish introduced in a long time, may even still have rear drum brakes (a huge peev of mine that some of the american car companies are still using rear drum brakes , ig the Taurus for a long long time where as the Maxima had 4 wheel disc in 80's))))
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:24 PM   #11
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wut durango doesnt have unibody??!!?!??!.... insane.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:41 PM   #12
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These are actually good driving trucks. I dont like the looks though!
I agree, the Grand Cherokee is a good truck for the $....but all others SUCK a$$, aka> Commander, liberty and the other smallish suv's they have. They suck. I dislike (not hate cause they are what they are) the jeeps also, Nothing newish introduced in a long time, may even still have rear drum brakes (a huge peev of mine that some of the american car companies are still using rear drum brakes , ig the Taurus for a long long time where as the Maxima had 4 wheel disc in 80's))))
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Gm ET AL created the bed they now lay on.

First of all, anyone who thinks the newer Grand Cherokees are so great have not driven them enough to know they have such crappy blindspots. Sure, they have a Hemi and can tow nicely but their interiors are just awful for the price of entry. I honestly much prefer the Commander (since I can see out of this one) with the Hemi and 7-passengers even though it has an equally junky interior. ***The Commander is only 0.5" longer than the GC***

I am honestly shocked at how many people actually buy the newest rendition of the GC. I much prefer the older WJ or even the ZJ.

Some Japanese companies also use drum brakes too? So they are ugly and dated technology but they work + cheap to maintain. The Civic, Corolla, even base model '08 Impreza, recently still had drum brakes on their cars...are they bad cars?

Just to let you know, the Maxima was WAY ahead of their time in the late 80s...they cost almost the same as an entry model E30 BMW 318i/s.
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:26 PM   #13
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It depends on what you want. Green tech, small cars, etc? Plan on repeated bailouts. Profits? Plan on trucks & SUVs.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:05 PM   #14
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I'd rather see them put more money into making the Caliber competitive, but oh well...

Grand Cherokee > Durango
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