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Old 12-20-2008, 01:32 PM   #1
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Thumbs up bridgestone blizzak's are amazing

decided to get some snow tires for this winter. went to discount tire to see what they had instock all they had for me were the blizzaks. they were pretty expensive so i thought about it for a while. came back later that day and decided to buy them. driving back home with them i felt a little empty in the wallet and was thinking of regret.... that night we got 5 inches of snow at my house and i decided to go to snowboarding the next day. called a couple of my friends to see if they wanted to go (fellow subie owners) 2 of them crashed there cars because they thought they could get away with summer tires.... idiots.... going up to crystal mountain i had amazing grip. coming out of the parking lot on the way home there was a wrx just spinning its tires. a bunch of us helped him out so i decided to see how the tires actually did. went to the exact spot where he was stuck. came right out with out any tire spin. on the way down from there was about 5 inches of fresh snow all compacted by the other cars. i wanted to test my grip so i slammed on the brakes.... i stopped...... amazing the grip you get with these tires....



to sum up my essay of a story..... buy them!!!


blizzak for the win! possibly the best thing ive ever boughten for my car....
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:47 PM   #2
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-1 on your friends
+1 for you BLIZZAKS ftw!!!
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:30 PM   #3
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:51 AM   #4
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not so much friends as fellow subi owner friends.... u know how it goes....


blizzaks ftw!!!!!!!
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:54 AM   #5
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i really need to get me some...
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:59 AM   #6
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yes you do, I absolutly love mine, and maybe its just me, but these things have lasted me 3 seasons and still have tread depth for a few more. Awesome tires, a bit pricey, but you wont regret it when you can get around better than most SUVs.
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:51 PM   #7
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which blizzaks did you get? i just got me some WS60's... cant wait to go to the mtns.
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:22 PM   #8
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i got mine a few years ago, so they are discontinued, the closest to what i have right now are the LM-25's.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:56 PM   #9
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yea i have the WS 60's.... amazing
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:26 PM   #10
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^ nice. for how soft they are, i'm worried about their ability to maintain snow/ice traction and cold weather performance after being driven in the dry for a period of time. can anyone comment about this? ie. how many miles you've driven on the tires until they start to lose proper snow performance? maybe luke@tirerack can chime in on this?

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Old 01-14-2009, 03:13 PM   #11
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Yeah, i used to sell Blizzaks.(here in Alaska)
They are the s**t. they only have one down fall "Sheet ice".
The do great on shallow snow, deep snow, slush, hard pack snow. pretty much any combo of winter driving. they also come with a special tube multicell compound which keep they rubber SUPER soft when cold(they actually preform better at like -20 than they do at 20). I have a set of 205-55-16 WS-60 which i love, I bought them to replace my WS-50 from like 4 years ago. the special compound only makes up 55% of they tread the other 45 is standard rubber(keep this in mind because your blizzack will still preform better than a A/S tire but no where near a new Blizzy.) Another benifit if the 3D sipes, when the sipes open up they pick gravel and such and use them like studs, then when they tire rotates around the kick the gravel out(self cleaning if you will)
They have like 3-4 main tires for cars i think
WS-50->WS-55->WS-60(the first 2 are discontinued)
MZ-01->MZ-02(both are discontinued,not sure what they recplaced them with)
LM-22->LM-25(The first is discontinued.)
anyone Questions, feel free to PM me.
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:51 PM   #12
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other than studded snows, sheet ice is a killer for any non-studded tire.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:17 PM   #13
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I have 12k miles on my WS60's and they are still performing great ... and in a head to head test at a local ice skating rink they beat a studded tire.

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What We Learned on the Ice

In place of our normal test track drive, our team went to a local ice rink to experience these tires' traction and handling. While it was 90 Fahrenheit outside, the ice rink provides the appropriate conditions to experience tires in a controlled environment because the ice is as cold and slippery as intersections will be in the middle of winter.

However because of the tires included in this test (one studded tire and three studless), the rink's icy surface ultimately represented that of a crowded intersection where everyone was in a hurry and one out of every four vehicles was equipped with studded tires. And because some wheel spin was inevitable, the studded tires left their mark by rutting the ice and deteriorated its normally smooth surface. While the rutted ice reduced the footprint contact area of all of the tires, it also probably represented a worst-case scenario for winter road conditions.

60-foot Time in seconds
Blizzak WS60 4.6 seconds
Graspic DS-2 4.9 seconds
X-ICE 5.2 seconds
Winterforce Studded 5.3 seconds

Our acceleration runs began with each car lined up with its rear wheels on the goal line. We then recorded the time it took for the car to cover the final 60 feet to the center of the rink as the car accelerated as fast as its tires and traction control would allow.

Establishing the Firestone Winterforce studded winter tire's 60-foot acceleration times as our basis of comparison (and assigning it a traction index of 100), we found that the slightly faster Michelin X-Ice earned a traction index of 101, while the faster still Dunlop Graspic DS-2 earned a traction index of 108, and the new Bridgestone Blizzak WS60 tires completed the course with the fastest time and earned a traction index of 115. We were surprised when all three of today's high-technology studless winter / snow tires were able to provide more acceleration traction on ice than the studded winter / snow tires!

Then we demonstrated each tire's ability to corner on ice as the car negotiated a simulated 90-degree right hand street corner while maintaining a predetermined speed. With traffic cones set every 6 feet along a line representing the center of the road being turned onto, we could determine how tight an arc the tire's traction would allow the car to maintain.

During the cornering test, the Blizzak WS60 consistently completed our 90-degree right hand street corner at the target speed without making contact with any cones, followed by the Graspic DS-2 and the X-Ice. Surprisingly, the studded Firestone Winterforce had the most difficult time completing the corner.

At the end of this test we learned that today's advanced tread compound and design technologies exceeded that of the traditional traction of studs on ice. Considering that only about six studs are in contact with the ice at any one time as the tire rolls across its surface, we found that the weak link is the ice itself, which chips away during contact with the studs. The ruts left on the surface of the ice showed that the studs were making contact, but the ice itself just wasn't strong enough to be considered a good traction partner for the tires.

Especially considering the unacceptable noise generated when studs contact dry and wet roads, we recommend using today's advanced tread compound and design technologies to drive through snow and on ice in winter.
here's a LINK to the entire test
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:35 PM   #14
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Holy ****, I stand corrected. Thank you for the information, Luke@tirerack, it is always greatly appreciated . And like the OP, I now feel better about my tire purchase (which i bought from the Rack).

I'm coming from studded BFGoodrich Winter Slaloms, which were awesome, so i'll give a comparison when i get ample time on these WS60's.

Luke, how many seasons have you had them, and when do you think you'll replace them? Also, can you comment about their snow traction once the main snow compound is gone?

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Old 01-14-2009, 05:36 PM   #15
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we have 7-8 month of winter here in alaska. And as long as you don't drive them in dry/summer conditions(the soft compound wear down fast) they should last you 4-5 seasons easy depending on your driving habits.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:42 PM   #16
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i wish i lived in alaska just so i can drive on them all year round.... lol

p.s. you can still have fun with these tire
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:38 PM   #17
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i have the blizzak REVO's (directional snows) and there crazy !!!! i love them theres guys on here that do snow-X on them i go anywhere i want!!!!
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