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Old 12-22-2008, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default DAKAR 2009 Ready to hit South America

Anyone else getting excited about the Dakar rally? The 30 year anniversary rally will be in South America for the first time, looking to provide a fresh and unique challenge to an already exciting race. It runs from Jan 3rd to the 18th.



I was in Chile a couple weeks ago, and most people I asked about it were pretty excited as well. I know the Argentinans will be great hosts also, they have all the WRC experience. Chile also has a pretty big rally each year, on a national or continent-wide level.

Anyway, the route looks pretty daunting, as it should -- they are trying to make sure they live up to the history of the race.

Does anyone know the television coverage for this?

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An extreme adventure between two oceans
The Dakar 2009 is off to discover a new continent, South America that offers unlimited possibilities to amateurs of wide open spaces. The round trip to Buenos Aires, via Valparaiso is a challenge in which the most enduring competitors will find their way and have the opportunity to distinguish themselves. With close to 6,000 kilometres of specials and difficulties scattered on the whole course, the battle for the title will remain wide open until the finish.



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Old 12-22-2008, 11:21 AM   #2
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Well it's not really the Dakar rally, now is it?

Looks to be an interesting course though. How are the vehicles compared to what they usually run? I'd imagine a course through the Andes is vastly different than the usual trip across the western Sahara.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:47 AM   #3
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Looks like it's going over El Condor, following the rally route. Still, it's kind of silly that the organizers have to market the thing as 'Dakar.'
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Looks to be an interesting course though. How are the vehicles compared to what they usually run? I'd imagine a course through the Andes is vastly different than the usual trip across the western Sahara.
the vehicles are not really set-up that differently. They will still have to go through desert sands, rocks, jumps, and long distances...... high altitudes and hot temps. so pretty similar from what I can tell. the altitude part might be different, i will have to do research on the altitude of the previous races...
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Looks like it's going over El Condor, following the rally route. Still, it's kind of silly that the organizers have to market the thing as 'Dakar.'
I understand the marketing behind it. The Dakar rally is well known, even by people who aren't into motorsports... and this won't be the first time that Dakar isn't even in the equation. Hopefully after things settle down in West Africa, it'll be back to normal, but hey... at least they're running one this year.
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^ Yup. I'm not going to complain about the name, as long as they still have the truck class.
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:12 PM   #7
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^ ^ the trucks will be there ...
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Looks like it's going to be on Versus Highlights at least on january 4/5.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:17 PM   #11
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I, too, have a bit of a hard time rationalizing the name "Dakar" on a rally being held nowhere near Dakar, but I guess it's just as odd as calling an endurance event that runs across North America the American Le Mans Series.

Looks like a pretty good course... if it's on Versus in the States, it's pretty certain that OLN Canada will pick it up.
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from dakar.com:

Returning from a series of reconnaissance taking place in both countries of South America that will be welcoming the Dakar for the first time, Étienne Lavigne gave out some information on the event that will take place from the 3rd to the 18th of January 2009.

On the vast Argentinean and Chilean territories, a large loop of 9 000 kilometres including around 6 000 kilometres of specials, will have to be covered by the competitors to reach Buenos Aires, start and finish place of the race. By first of all heading south towards the landscapes of Patagonia, the drivers and riders will then have to cross the Andes Mountains before enjoying a rest day at Valparaiso on the shores of the Pacific Ocean. The return trip will then take them to the Atacama Desert and notably to the Argentinean provinces of Catamarca, of Rioja and of Cordoba.

The Dakar that has a vocation to discover unknown territories for off-road rally amateurs will cross over the Atlantic Ocean for its 2009 edition. The calendar has therefore been adapted in order to allow the shipping of the vehicles to Argentina’s capital: a first phase of technical and administrative scrutineering will take place on the 26th and 27th of November at Le Havre where the European vehicles will be boarded on ships.
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Can you tell us a bit more about Dakar 2009 ?
This will be a really great event ! Believe me, we have rarely been so excited as we were by what we saw on our reconnaissance trips – what a discovery !
Breathtaking landscapes, and such incredible diversity ! Time and time again, we stopped in our tracks - simply to admire our surroundings. It is indescribable – nature in a pure state.

In concrete terms, what is the course like ?
The route is ambitious - remember, we’ll be doing 6,000 km of specials ! It will be extremely varied - there will be fast, very fast, steering, sand, and dunes – drivers will need the skill to adapt to different race conditions from one day to the next. The route will be both testing and demanding... People will have to be very well prepared, physically.

So should competitors expect a difficult route ?
Yes. We are organising the Dakar, not a walk in the park, and the Dakar has to be the toughest race in the world.

In practical terms - will there be bivouacs ?
Of course ! And every day ! This is another example of where competitors are going to be very surprised. We’ve selected extraordinary locations – for example, alongside the Atlantic and Pacific oceans ! And in the middle of the Pampa, we’ll be offering sumptuous and wild bivouacs ! In places where we can really make the most of the natural environment around us !
The ‘Bivouac’ spirit with catering, briefings, all the competitors coming together to share their experiences… It’s essential, this is the Dakar spirit, these are our values.

So the competitors won’t be staying in hotels ?
No ! As in Africa, it’s a personal choice. Those who want to stay in hotels can drive a few kilometres and find just what they’re after…

Is the Dakar popular in South America ?
For our friends in Argentina and Chile, hosting the Dakar is like organising the World Cup ! When the competitors are welcomed by 500,000 spectators in Cordoba, the words ‘human warmth’ will really come into their own ! The enthusiasm being generated by the Dakar in Argentina and in Chile is immense, the participants will receive a real hero’s welcome.

Changes to the rules ?
The technical regulations for cars, bikes and trucks will be identical to those for the Dakar 2008.

What about the media ?
There are no worries on this front ! The Dakar will be broadcast in 180 countries ! The media actively seek to be part of the adventure; their level of curiosity is very high.
Amateurs will be at the forefront, and we want to take advantage of this new Dakar to remind people of a few essential values: this is above all a course made for amateurs, with the presence of professional teams. This is where the magic of Dakar lies.
The T2 category will also be very well-supported – to give a simple example, the T2 vehicles will be identified by very brightly-coloured plate backgrounds, so that journalists will be able to identify the vehicle category in an instant.
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tHE YEAR OF THE DIESEL CARS

Issy-les-Moulineaux, December 30th, 2008

Volkswagen took up an ambitious technological challenge at the eve of the 2004 Dakar: the German manufacturer decided to race on Mitsubishi’s turf, with the additional difficulty of going for it with a diesel car, which could eventually become the first of its kind to win the Dakar. Although the Race Touareg has put up a credible performance with two cars in the top 3 (Kleinschmidt finished 3rd in 2005 and De Villiers 2nd in 2006) and 21 stage wins in total, its mission remains incomplete. The team also bitterly remembers the 2007 race when Carlos Sainz, and then Giniel De Villiers, seemed to dominate the race before facing mechanical problems at the heart of Mauritania. This situation has made the drivers of the German team thirsty for revenge and has boosted their motivation. VW will pursue its quest in South America with Sainz and De Villiers as its major assets, but it will also count on Mark Miller, who finished 4th in 2007, and Dieter Depping.

For its part, Mitsubishi has finally managed to deal with all the situations and has clinched seven victories since 2001. Mitsubishi’s choice for a diesel-powered vehicle implies a revolution. After over 20 years’ loyal service, the Pajero was left in the garage and replaced by the Lancer to which the Japanese engineers wish the same success. For its first participation on the Dakar, the new prototype has naturally been left in the good care of Stéphane Peterhansel, the title holder and above all the man of all the records with a total of nine victories in the overall standing. The Japanese manufacturer will also count on the good services of Luc Alphand, Joan “Nani” Roma and Hiroshi Masuoka to confirm its domination.

The fight between the “Blues” and the “Reds” could also be arbitrated by the serious contenders of the BMW X-Raid team. Nasser Al Attiyah, who missed the podium in 2007 due to a late penalty, boasted more regularity during the season than his reputation may let us think. And Guerlin Chicherit seems to have fully recovered from his spectacular accident in 2007. Although no all bets are on him, Robby Gordon proclaimed himself a favourite for the final victory and probably represents the only alternative to diesel vehicles with his impressive Hummer.

Another race will take place behind the top drivers between the vehicles of the production category. According to the rally regulations, these vehicles must remain mechanically close to standard vehicles, so this category is generally quite open and competitive until the very last days of the race. Toyota won the last three editions in this category. Jun Mitsuhashi, the titleholder, will have to keep an eye on his team-mates Ronan Chabot or Nicolas Gibon but also, for instance, on Jean-Pierre Strugo and his Nissan.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:21 AM   #15
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Apparently someone has setup another race to Dakar to replace the one that just moved to South America.

http://www.africarace.com

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Can anyone confirm that Verses is not just playing reruns from two years ago?
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Can anyone confirm that Verses is not just playing reruns from two years ago?
Woah! Versus is showing it?! So we do get to see it after all? NICE!

I think SpeedTV has finally become absolutely worthless. Marshall... what the hell is it going to take to get RiceTV to start carrying actual racing again and not just repeats of Living the Low Life, Hot Import Nights, and the every-so-fascinating "highlights" of auctions?
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I think it is great that Dakar has found a way to circumvent the terrorism threats that cancelled last years rally. Just need to figure that Dakar now means "terribly bad ass rally that destroys vehicles and challenges drivers beyond natural limits", not just a city. I am looking forward to this. Definitely need to get more TV coverage though. Rally of any kind (RA, Baja, and Dakar) could really build interest in the US if it was properly marketed, the X games was a good start.
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:12 PM   #19
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Can anyone confirm that Verses is not just playing reruns from two years ago?
two years ago, the race was not in South America, it was in Africa. So it should be pretty easy to tell the difference.
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"01-01-2009 - A meeting between Sainz & Esteve

It happened this Thursday at the start of the afternoon, during the administrative scrutineering. Carlos Sainz broke away from the imposing VW team group and headed towards Isidre Esteve, former elite rider who is now a driver, following a serious accident that cost him the use of his legs. “How’s it going, bandit?” calls out the double world rally champion (1990, 92). The Catalan former rider smiles and starts chatting. The conversation of course turns straight to the Dakar. “Have you done Patagonia-Atacama already?” asks Esteve. “Why? Is it going to be tough?” is the worried retort from the driver from Madrid. “You know what I’ve found out? Having a co-pilot who tells you all you need to do, it’s a world away from the bike!” replies Esteve. Carlos crouches down next to Esteve’s wheelchair and the flash-bulbs crackle. “Don’t forget to give me your number”, says Sainz."
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from official site:

"Registered to take part in his first Dakar, Chinese rider Li Zhiheng quite simply forgot to bring biking overalls to wear on his KTM. As if that absent-mindedness was not enough, he also arrived in Buenos Aires without the license issued by the international federation, which is essential for taking starter’s orders for the rally. Alongside his two countrymen, Chen Jianguo and Wei Guanghui, both similarly lacking in paperwork, Zhiheng is now in a race against the clock to present the required license before the first stage of the race starts."
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"Registered to take part in his first Dakar, Chinese rider Li Zhiheng quite simply forgot to bring biking overalls to wear on his KTM. As if that absent-mindedness was not enough, he also arrived in Buenos Aires without the license issued by the international federation, which is essential for taking starter’s orders for the rally. Alongside his two countrymen, Chen Jianguo and Wei Guanghui, both similarly lacking in paperwork, Zhiheng is now in a race against the clock to present the required license before the first stage of the race starts."
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i have a number of friends either driving or in crew over there.. so started biting my nails a few days ago..
this year simply has to be giniel de villiers's year

i can also only hope there aren't any casualties this year
injuries are a given .. but let's just hope for the best

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I only found one 1/2 hour highlight reel on Versus to show this years Dakar rally. It airs on Sunday. Anyone know of better coverage?
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