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Old 08-05-2009, 03:50 PM   #301
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It was good to meet you at the NORA event. I took one step closer to my ESP wrx. Got the 18x9.5 with 285 30 18's on the way.

The car was dang impressive in person. I got some action shots i'll post up when I get them off my camera.

And what is this AWDSP I keep hearing about.

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Old 08-05-2009, 04:10 PM   #302
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And what is this AWDSP I keep hearing about.

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Paul,

It's an ongoing "discussion" by some competitors in FS/ESP/BSP about trying to lump all AWD cars into the same SP class.

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Old 08-05-2009, 04:52 PM   #303
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It's an ongoing "discussion" by some competitors in FS/ESP/BSP about trying to lump all AWD cars into the same SP class.

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Lame.
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:56 PM   #304
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Lame.
Yup....considering my little EJ22 powered brighton would be running head to head with a "BSP" STi or Greg's WRX. Only way I'll vote for it is to put em all on one line.

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Old 08-05-2009, 05:03 PM   #305
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Only way I'll vote for it is to put em all on one line.
I wouldn't vote for it even then. If an engine swap is the only way to make a car competitive, then I'm going SM.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:55 PM   #306
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^^ Agree. If they do lump it, I'd at least want them to lump turbo vs non turbo cars in two separate classes. Then, each group can interchange parts as they please within that group. The amount of work to make Jay's car competitive with a true BSP STI would be the same as going to SM, only with more rules to work around.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:54 PM   #307
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Paul,

It's an ongoing "discussion" by some competitors in FS/ESP/BSP about trying to lump all AWD cars into the same SP class.

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If by "some competitors" you mean "a couple of crazy guys on SCCAforums, yeah...

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Old 08-06-2009, 12:17 AM   #308
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Who are you, anyways?


Honestly though. If I was going to sell the car.

What do you guys think I should ask for it?

Keep in mind I'd try to sell it in the auto-x community.
Would you be interested in parting it out at all? AKA Coilovers/Wheels and tires?
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:30 AM   #309
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Please send paypal info. Thanks.

It's a hard game to play. yes, for the AX community it's a drop in winner for the most part. At the same time, the form over function makes it even a smaller target audience, and then that audience often likes to build it's own cars. CN: I have no idea
5 bucks it's yours! I know I know. I've devalued the car, I knew that going in.

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Are you yanking my chain again?
Dibs.
I didn't know there was a chain in your cage.........

Alright you shall have dibs since you clearly called it in a legal and binding nasioc fashion.

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DK gets the best idea in the thread award. I do like me some lotus.

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It was good to meet you at the NORA event. I took one step closer to my ESP wrx. Got the 18x9.5 with 285 30 18's on the way.

And what is this AWDSP I keep hearing about.
Good to meet you. Sweet on the wheels/tires and good luck.

It's a class where me and my car would still not be welcomed . Actually see butt dyno's response.

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It's an ongoing "discussion" by some competitors in FS/ESP/BSP about trying to lump all AWD cars into the same SP class.
Chike
So logically.......she's a witch.

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Lame.
We're not talknig about MR2's here

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Only way I'll vote for it is to put em all on one line.
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mmmmm Could be $yummy$ 257 powered brighton w/a 5spd? <- that's where I'd be.

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Would you be interested in parting it out at all? AKA Coilovers/Wheels and tires?
IDK it may come to that. I have a feeling I'd try to sell it complete. Extra wheels, trans, etc.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:46 AM   #310
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Alright you shall have dibs since you clearly called it in a legal and binding nasioc fashion.
If you do sell it Greg I'll be very sad, but I guess lmk if you come up with a price and I'll see what I can work out
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:23 AM   #311
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5 bucks it's yours! I know I know. I've devalued the car, I knew that going in.
What's your payapl?!!?? I have MoNeYz ready!

I'll probably never sell my car. Besides being my only car now, I've put too much time and effort into it to ever get back what it's worth to me. When I get a new car, it'll either become a fun car only and get bumped to SM or XP or stay as is as a weekend warrior.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:30 AM   #312
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How much for the truck the trailer and the car? I have 30 dollars
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:29 PM   #313
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Alright enough of this s***. Nationals is around the corner and I have stuff to get ready and decisions to make.

1. I'm leaning towards taking the transmisson that's currently in the car out, splitting it, swapping the helical diff into my other one, and re install that one before nat's.

Here's some background on that: and there will be a question/opinion request at the bottom.

The one in the car NOW is the original transmission from the car that let go in DC june of 2007 (1st gear went, both main and driven).

When it went in 2007 I overnighted a brand new 03 assembly from soa to Toledo to replace it. That "new" transmission resided in the car the rest of the 07 season and through the entire 08 season. I took it out in Nov of 08 and it's never been in the esp car.

By my best guess that trans has:

~ 120 pro solo launches and maybe ~ another 40 local/regionals where there was a good enough start straight for it.

I split this case a couple weeks ago it was golden on the inside, spotless actually. No real sign of wear.

The transmission that is currently in the car now is the original one from the car that I rebuilt with a used mainshaft and 1st, 2nd driven that I bought from someone who said they took them out to go with PPG's. He said he had went to the drag strip a few times but other than that all street miles ~ 60K. I rolled the dice and I've come up a winner so far. I threw the helical in it and I haven't had an issue (knock on wood). I cannot quantify the launches on this trans besides what I've done this year.

Now I can't say when and how either one would go or which one may or may not last longer. Only that I can put a number (of launches/miles/events) on one and not the other.

So do you change it as a pre-caution knowing it has a quantifible chance of reliabilty? Meaning it should last another 40 launches.

Or do you take it as a spare out to lincoln and hope you don't have to do a paddock diff and trans swap?

I tend to think of it as insurance. But why spend 8 hours doing it and have the garage smell like gear lube for no reason?

Thoughts?
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:37 PM   #314
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It's your car man, but either way we should probably bring the spare and pray we don't have to use it.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:17 PM   #315
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I'd leave the current trans in the car, but bring the spare to Lincoln. No need to create extra work for yourself.

P.S. Have you drained the oil in your current trans recently? If so, have you seen any pieces of metal that are of concern?
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:06 PM   #316
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I'd leave the current trans in the car, but bring the spare to Lincoln. No need to create extra work for yourself.

P.S. Have you drained the oil in your current trans recently? If so, have you seen any pieces of metal that are of concern?
[kramer]You are wise[kramer]

I will be changing fluids regardless so I was going to take a look at it.

However I think my desicion was just made easier.

There's a new helical on it's way to me. I'll just have to order the 6mt stubs to make the diff male. I'll just assemble the one I have and bring it out. One complete and clean swap is all it would take.

Unbelievable.........
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:24 PM   #317
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3:06. Hm. I got a text right about then myself.

On a serious note, if you don't have to pull the transmission, why do it? If it's not making any "noises" like it's about to break, I say to just leave well enough alone. Of course, the smell of gear oil makes me sick to my stomach, so maybe I'm biased in that regard.

Definitely bring the spare trans to Lincoln. It's like rain tires, right? If you have it, you won't need it....
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:19 PM   #318
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I would find a cheap OBX diff, put it in the spare trans and bring it just in case. Of course, I would also put the good diff in the newest trans you have (least amount of abuse) and begin the trek to Lincoln on it. A mountain of work in either case.

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Old 08-10-2009, 07:16 AM   #319
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I would find a cheap OBX diff, put it in the spare trans and bring it just in case. Of course, I would also put the good diff in the newest trans you have (least amount of abuse) and begin the trek to Lincoln on it. A mountain of work in either case.

Jay

So if I'm reading you right Jay: your vote is to have the best diff and the best (least used) transmisson in the car when I get to Lincoln?
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:47 AM   #320
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I am with Chike on this....less work and have a spare... thats my vote..

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Old 08-10-2009, 09:37 AM   #321
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I'll third that motion. Seems to make the most sense to me.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:37 PM   #322
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So if I'm reading you right Jay: your vote is to have the best diff and the best (least used) transmisson in the car when I get to Lincoln?
Yup. More work?......yes. Peace of mind?.......priceless!!!

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Old 08-11-2009, 12:46 AM   #323
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Greg,

You are apart of the ESP crowd so you should do as little as possible...and fix it when it breaks. Hell I will help you if need be.

This preventative maintanence crap is just absurd...and gets in the way of beer drinking time.

Unfortunately my mullet mobile is up on jackstands and I am working to bring its A-game to nats...the 4500 clutch dumps at Toledo did not make a happy 10 bolt.

John Crouse...aka guy who always spies on the competition because I really miss my rallyx car...
aka the guy who outran a subie in the rain at the DC pro!!! (cones count damn it)

See you at nats or Toledo for the final shakedown runs...

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Old 08-11-2009, 07:10 AM   #324
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Greg,

You are apart of the ESP crowd so you should do as little as possible...and fix it when it breaks. Hell I will help you if need be.

This preventative maintanence crap is just absurd...and gets in the way of beer drinking time.

Unfortunately my mullet mobile is up on jackstands and I am working to bring its A-game to nats...the 4500 clutch dumps at Toledo did not make a happy 10 bolt.

John Crouse...aka guy who always spies on the competition because I really miss my rallyx car...
aka the guy who outran a subie in the rain at the DC pro!!! (cones count damn it)

See you at nats or Toledo for the final shakedown runs...
ohh snap. This thread's about to get alot more interesting.

The way I see it is: I can change it at home in known conditions in a controlled enviroment. Or I can risk changing it in a paddock, in the rain, up hill both ways, carrying a bear trap around my ankle with 9 suckling pups. Of couse I'm sure there'd be plenty of helpful hands and cold beer in paddock.

With 4 drivers in the finale, tire and car maintenance are going to pay divedends. We will have little time for f'n around. I don't even think the car will make it to impound until after SM.

Hell will one set of tires last 48 runs and just how fast will those tires be for nationals? Who cares I'm going to have fun anyways.

Welcome to our little thread in woods John. You e-stalker.

As always U R goin down.
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Welcome to our little thread in woods John. You e-stalker.

As always U R goin down.
Hey I may lose...but at least I look good doing it!!!

What am I saying...I drive a catfish competitively. (for the ill-informed...an LS1 4th Gen Camaro looks like a catfish if you squint turn your head sideways and hop on one foot.)

Get some real tires on that thing...335's or BUST!!!!
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