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Old 12-31-2008, 02:41 PM   #76
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you will over spin it, max is like 25psi with an evo3. buy a bigger turbo with a bigger exhaust housing and will allow you more top end.

A lot more top end? Sure. The same fat powerband? NO.

And 25 PSI is NOT the max for that turbo. It's efficiency range is in the mid 20s, so high 20s isn't over-doing it and will leave you a BEAUTIFUL powerband on a 2.0 running 11s.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:50 PM   #77
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Ohh boi. We sha'll see how long the engine will last. Are you keeping meth or just running pump?

got a date you think you may be ready ?
No way staying meth screw pump gas.
I still have to get fighters to fix the cutout issue (stupid holidays). I think i found a HTA Green with 3" inlet i am going to get. The HTA is suppose to be a 56lb/min compressor!!! The 30r is what a 52lb or so?

Yea probably another week or so. Less than a week if i decide to keep the 20g. I guess i could just stretch the lungs of the 20g some more and go more meth instead.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:21 PM   #78
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Yeah that would be the cheaper route. Let me know!
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:38 PM   #79
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my old 2003 WRX EJ205

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50/50 Meth/Water + 93 pump(MAFv 4.80v) vs. 93 pump only(MAFv 4.90v), 24psig on both maps all the way to redline:
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:47 PM   #80
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^^ i want to keep it stock location turbo and tmic..its a daily driver. i have other hobbies that cost me alot of $$ and i dont want to give them up so i can buy a seperate bumper/bumper beam so i can hack it up for a fmic.

i dont want a front mount and i dont really care if it blows up (ok i do but..)and if i do..ill be kinda depressed/pissed for alittle bit, then ill just smoke alot of weed and put my old engine back in. hence the reason im building a spare block so i can learn to tune with it/pumble it with boost/etc
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:02 PM   #81
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then 20g or a hybrid, the intercooler is gonna kill it . your gonna have to run meth with a sizeable top mount, to get really good numbers.
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:57 PM   #82
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then 20g or a hybrid, the intercooler is gonna kill it . your gonna have to run meth with a sizeable top mount, to get really good numbers.
Sigh...have you not seen testes 20g on a TMIC, its only a few posts up
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:18 PM   #83
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1. The RPM has ZERO to do with it. You can run to 7200 and never hit more than -5 PSI.
2. I'm talking about a 2.0, SINCE THIS THREAD WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR 2.0S. 2.2s are not welcome here, and this is not the place to discuss them.
3. The 16Gs are not all created equally. Your average FP Small16 is quite a bit different from the Deadbolt Super16
can you make an exception?? theres like 3 people in the universe with ej205/22e/t hybrids.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:08 PM   #84
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Sigh...have you not seen testes 20g on a TMIC, its only a few posts up
no kidding, im from the east coast and hes from jersey and thats whats gonna kill it when the heat comes. thats why people in the south all around will run a front mount. I have seen and if he had a fmic, he could run more boost efficiently. now go sigh..... not my first forced induction car.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:16 PM   #85
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I have seen and if he had a fmic, he could run more boost efficiently.
I ran 24psig all the way to redline on a stock EJ205, is that not enough boost? There was no hint of heatsoak(w/ all the heatshielding I had on the car) and no flow issues with the Hyperflow TMIC I was using. I can't imagine seeing much if any benefit w/ a FMIC with the setup I had.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:55 AM   #86
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I ran 24psig all the way to redline on a stock EJ205, is that not enough boost? There was no hint of heatsoak(w/ all the heatshielding I had on the car) and no flow issues with the Hyperflow TMIC I was using. I can't imagine seeing much if any benefit w/ a FMIC with the setup I had.
I used to feel like Zach and went to a front mount. Switched back to a top mount and have no regrets, except that I wasted all that time/money/energy on the front mount.
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:38 AM   #87
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2005 WRX Wagon Helix RR500 (TD06 8cm 20g)

93 OCT 19 PSI (boost on chart is off)
50.88ft above sea level

1) Original EJ205 (101k atm)
2) No internal work
3) 325whp 296wtq
4) Stock trans - no drag strip for me
5) Compared to my stage 2 setup.. 5..4..3..2..1 blast off. Passing someone in a spirited manner on the highway requires 4th gear. Fully spools at 4.5k rpm.

She is only tuned to 19psi due to me forgetting the high boost spring for my mbc. Didnt matter to much because I was still on the stock clutch at the time.



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Old 01-01-2009, 02:42 PM   #88
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a local here ran a mid 11? i think with a vf34 running 28 psi or so..then ran a high 10 with an 18g @ high boost.

im sure a 16g could do this too..with meth/alc of course
Did no one else read this? Unless this was an EJ207 or an EJ257 I am gonna halve to call shenanigans

Show me the time slips and videos.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:50 PM   #89
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I think the record is 11.5 or 11.6 from CoolRex any other without proof is shenanigans to me.
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:32 PM   #90
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a local here ran a mid 11? i think with a vf34 running 28 psi or so..then ran a high 10 with an 18g @ high boost.

im sure a 16g could do this too..with meth/alc of course
Not an off the shelf typical Suby 16g.

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Did no one else read this? Unless this was an EJ207 or an EJ257 I am gonna halve to call shenanigans

Show me the time slips and videos.
Its a full 257 swap. He's talking about xdrian's car.
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:57 PM   #91
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Not an off the shelf typical Suby 16g.



Its a full 257 swap. He's talking about xdrian's car.
remember though, his car has a fair amount of weight reduction and straight cut ppgs
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:59 PM   #92
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PPGs FTL......
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:29 PM   #93
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Not an off the shelf typical Suby 16g.



Its a full 257 swap. He's talking about xdrian's car.
why where we even talking about this then,.. this thread is for the 2.0's! No offense I am sure its a nice setup

And yes Coolrex is the fastest USDM stock block stock internals 2.0 I have seen on here confirmed. And it is an 18G (7cm). Which is proof that all of you big turbo guys are missing the point of useable powerband. Other than that you made a nice number good for you, too bad it didnt help you get to the other end of the track any faster. Bigger is not always better. Turbo wise anyway

Now if you want to talk about the EJ207 we all know thats a different ballgame entirely.
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:07 PM   #94
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why where we even talking about this then,.. this thread is for the 2.0's! No offense I am sure its a nice setup

And yes Coolrex is the fastest USDM stock block stock internals 2.0 I have seen on here confirmed. And it is an 18G (7cm). Which is proof that all of you big turbo guys are missing the point of useable powerband. Other than that you made a nice number good for you, too bad it didnt help you get to the other end of the track any faster. Bigger is not always better. Turbo wise anyway

Now if you want to talk about the EJ207 we all know thats a different ballgame entirely.

not really.
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Yea he has a factory freak, period.
I dunno, the last i saw, he is putting out quite a "pretty" dyno sheet. Plus, as he told me it comes down to the driver.


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Old 01-01-2009, 06:33 PM   #96
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Not an off the shelf typical Suby 16g.



Its a full 257 swap. He's talking about xdrian's car.

What? The evoIII big16 flows alittle less then the 18g, im sure if you leaned on it like he did on his it'd be pretty close..

and it's not a full ej257 swap, its an ej257 longblock running off the ej205 ecu w/ a open source/utec tune IIRC
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What? The evoIII big16 flows alittle less then the 18g, im sure if you leaned on it like he did on his it'd be pretty close..

and it's not a full ej257 swap, its an ej257 longblock running off the ej205 ecu w/ a open source/utec tune IIRC
with junior tuning it.....its a longblock lol
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I used to feel like Zach and went to a front mount. Switched back to a top mount and have no regrets, except that I wasted all that time/money/energy on the front mount.
i spent 4 yrs in georgia, ive seen effects first hand.
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with junior tuning it.....its a longblock lol
junior's a good guy , he gave me tips on tuning an ej5-40t a few years ago. great tuner you will be very happy.
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why where we even talking about this then,.. this thread is for the 2.0's! No offense I am sure its a nice setup
That's why I pointed it out, I know its not relevant here. In fact his and Coolrex's car's times hold very little comparative significance unless people become more willing to go to similar depths of weight reduction.

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What? The evoIII big16 flows alittle less then the 18g, im sure if you leaned on it like he did on his it'd be pretty close..
IIRC, he's got a TD06SL2-18g-8cm2. That flows quite a bit more then any off the shelf Suby 16g, E3 included.

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and it's not a full ej257 swap, its an ej257 longblock running off the ej205 ecu w/ a open source/utec tune IIRC
What would you consider a full 257 then?
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