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Old 03-31-2011, 09:53 AM   #276
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from a few years back in this thread...

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I got 2k reimbursement for about $3200 parts and labor on both our 02 forester & 03 OBS. Both headgaskets were replaced on the two cars about a month apart. Both external leaks.

I contacted SOA after the fact. The OBS has 86k & the forester 68k.

I was pretty pleased, but still feel that SOA should make this a TSB and have them all replaced since the older headgasket is basically defective.

All of my contact with SOA was through e-mails
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:19 AM   #277
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$2350 quote for head gasket and engine reseal at one dealer, plus another $750 for the clutch if I wanted.

The $2500 didn't even include the timing belt... they quoted $3000 to include the timing belt. What a rip, right?

The rep had mentioned that the labor is AT LEAST $1800 alone.
parts for the timing belt should be around $250, and like the clutch, the engine is already opened up and out so there is really not much labor in doing them at the same time as the HG. My dealer offered to do my timing belt when they did my HG for just the cost of parts
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:22 AM   #278
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$2350 quote for head gasket and engine reseal at one dealer, plus another $750 for the clutch if I wanted.

The $2500 didn't even include the timing belt... they quoted $3000 to include the timing belt. What a rip, right?

The rep had mentioned that the labor is AT LEAST $1800 alone.
Also agree that this is too much. I paid $1560 for HG and valve covers.
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:02 PM   #279
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since subaru is an opposed engine. the valve train is always sitting in and oil bath, and from heat and expansion and cooling and contraction. there bound to leak, mostly out of the back bottom corner. yes the older models, up to 04 were more likely to go early, however they will all go at some point and time. whether it be 80k or 180k.

As for the price for OEM gaskets from the dealer ranges and where from 300-375. and most dealers go off All data time being 12.5 hours of labor and average labor cost, in my area is 120 an hour. so 1700-2000 is average price
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:09 PM   #280
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since subaru is an opposed engine. the valve train is always sitting in and oil bath, and from heat and expansion and cooling and contraction.
This is not a correct statement. The oil drains well below the level of the heads and pistons when the engine is not running, and there isn't all that much pooling at the valvetrain during operation.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:28 PM   #281
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since subaru is an opposed engine. the valve train is always sitting in and oil bath, and from heat and expansion and cooling and contraction. there bound to leak, mostly out of the back bottom corner. yes the older models, up to 04 were more likely to go early, however they will all go at some point and time. whether it be 80k or 180k.

As for the price for OEM gaskets from the dealer ranges and where from 300-375. and most dealers go off All data time being 12.5 hours of labor and average labor cost, in my area is 120 an hour. so 1700-2000 is average price
Lol, really?? Its a good thing I have been cranking through my engine by hand before starting it to pump all the oil out of the cylinders so I don't bend a rod. Oh, wait that's my 1947 Waco
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:30 PM   #282
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Man, your dealer is raping you. 2.5L SOHC headgaskets are about $33 from the local dealer.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:51 PM   #283
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After looking a this thread I should of deff put new head gaskets on my EJ25D before putting it into my car haha ill post some pics if I find any leaks. The engine has 65,000 miles on it and seems to look alright my power steering pump is my only leak so far.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:11 PM   #284
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Dang this sucks, I had a 02 forester with HG's that blew at 95k. Now I'm looking at a new 2011 impreza (because my wife wants one) and they still dont have this issue fixed yet?!!!
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:10 AM   #285
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Noone knows. AFAIK, they still use the old, single-layer steel design HG. Hard to justify when next door they produce motors which handle eleventy billion Psi of boost, blowing everything BUT the headgaskets...
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:56 PM   #286
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Dang this sucks, I had a 02 forester with HG's that blew at 95k. Now I'm looking at a new 2011 impreza (because my wife wants one) and they still dont have this issue fixed yet?!!!
I just got rid of my 09 because of fears of HG issues. I went and got a CR-Z. The valve cover gaskets were beginning to leak, which is just one other thing to worry about.

Hopefully the gasket issues are no more on the new FB25 motor.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:32 PM   #287
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I just got rid of my 09 because of fears of HG issues. I went and got a CR-Z. The valve cover gaskets were beginning to leak, which is just one other thing to worry about.

Hopefully the gasket issues are no more on the new FB25 motor.
How do you like the CR-Z?
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:28 PM   #288
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my head blew today. what should i do? fix it? sell it? swap it? i have an 04 2.5rs. 119k miles. how much does all this ussually run? im really stressed out about it and no clue what to do!!! any help is good. thanks
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:36 PM   #289
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Breathe and have a beer first . A repair will cost you around 2k$. A swap, assuming you don't do anything yourself, could be in the 4-6k$ range. How long do you want to keep the car? Would you rather have a reliable daily driver, saving for a newer car, or a fun swap with a potential to suck more money in? It all depends on your finances and priorities...
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:55 PM   #290
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I love this car! I have no money. Im s.o.l. I guess.
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Old 04-06-2011, 04:56 PM   #291
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How do you like the CR-Z?
The CR-Z is nice. I'm still getting use to driving a hybrid. The engine shuts off when I put it in neutral and then turns on when I go into 1st. I'm already saving with gas. I haven't filled my tank in over a week and the gas is still at half tank.

I lost the AWD and gained better gas mileage better stereo and better ride feel. The 2.5i rattled like crazy. especially when it was cold.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:59 AM   #292
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Thanks, that's exactly the info I was looking for. Coolant is definitely clean right now, so at least that buys me a little time.

Called and spoke with SoA today... they told me theyd talk to the dealer and see what they can offer me in regards to warranty repairs and whatnot. They said since it's the head gaskets that are leaky theyll be fast about it and call me back tomorrow or the day after at the latest. Crossing my fingers that something good comes out of this. Dealer's quoting me $2500 for the job.
So a little over two weeks later and still no resolution.... SoA has been very friendly. They said at first since it was head gaskets theyd call me back in a day or two -- just had to figure things out with the dealer. Called back to let me know that she still hadn't been able to contact the service manager but he should call her back that day. Another week later called back and let me know that theyve been in touch (voicemails) but still havent been able to speak with each other. Wondering if maybe I made the wrong decision with dealers (I have two about the same distance apart from me... SoA told me to pick one -- my choice -- and theyll talk to the dealer and see what they can offer)....... So still crossing my fingers and hoping things work out.

btw... thanks for all the advice guys.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:21 PM   #293
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Just found out muy HG is leaking oil from both sides. Its a 2005 RS2.5 with 98K KM. Not sure what I wanna do.. I was told it would cost me 1300.00 to fix... Grrr

I do have a bubby who might be able to help.. still trying to figur out how hard it will be..

Or maybe I should sell the car and get a WRX..hmm lol
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:06 PM   #294
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Anybody every fixed these them self?
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:07 PM   #295
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Sure, if you have the proper tools and the knowledge. There are some threads on this.

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Old 04-22-2011, 12:26 PM   #296
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Anyone use like a head gasket leak sealer? My friend swears by it...but im a lil sketched out that it will work for a bit the make things worse...any ideas?
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:44 PM   #297
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there is no quick and easy way to fix them. They must be replaced. the new gaskets are up-dated.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:43 PM   #298
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Noone knows. AFAIK, they still use the old, single-layer steel design HG. Hard to justify when next door they produce motors which handle eleventy billion Psi of boost, blowing everything BUT the headgaskets...
so the turbo 2.5's don't have the head gasket problem? i'm thinking of going back to subarus, but it seems like they haven't resolved this headgasket issue in NA engines...
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Old 05-01-2011, 07:08 PM   #299
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Hey there, I am new to the whole Subaru owners thing, even though I've been wanting to buy one for a long time. I just bought an 03 Forester 2.5X... I noticed there's what seems to be an external coolant leak that only shows up while the vehicle is running, if I'm under it just after running, it's dripping coolant. It's towards the rear of the engine. It seems to be a steady leak, but I don't notice any puddle or anything, but I guess it could be like that because it seems to leak when it runs. Any ideas on what that could be? I've read about some coolant conditioner stuff in other threads here, and I was wondering if any of you guys have any idea if that would help or not. Any suggestions or comments are appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:55 AM   #300
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Need to determine the source. Inspect the head/case junction with a mirror and light. Should be some staining if its a hg failure.
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