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Old 01-04-2007, 07:18 PM   #1
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Ya know I've been meaning to post a few pics of my Baja at work and play but never got around to it. Hell if I wanted this to be what finally got me to but here I am. Yesterday my check engine light stayed on for the first time ever. I've got 29K on her and all the maintenance I've done thus far is regular oil and air filer changes. I thought Id see about taking it to the dealer since it's still under warranty till 36K but since this is my first car I've ever owned with a warranty I don't know anything about that. Do they charge you to just look and diagnose it?

I see in the manual it's about time to change the plugs and wires so maybe I'll try that first since its pretty much time for it to be done anyway.

I filled up with gas this morning and noticed the cap was pretty lose so I was hoping putting that on tight would make the check engine light go out but no luck. I did a search but can't find how to reset the check engine light, I guess the trucks computer, can anyone tell me how to do that? Maybe it just wont come back



I drove her right in the pacific ocean!


Kinda crappy camera phone pics but you can see the wood bed cover I made for work. I sometimes park outside at my girlfriends house with my tools in the back and a job on the roof for the next days work (I'm a carpenter) so I wanted something that covered all the way to the bed extender. You can't see it in the pic but I've got a chain I run through a whole in the cover and around the bed extender pipes. It's not fort knocks but then again what is these days. Out of site out of mind, and making it harder then a 10 minute rob goes a long way, plus it gives me an extra level to stack short lumber on





As you can see in the first pic I've got a locking leather soft cover so to make the wood one I just traced the 2 pieces. It's really nice to unload too. First I take the lumber off the roof, then off the cover, then just lift up the cover and rotate the bed extender about 110degrees till the 3 bars are parallel with the bottom of the wood cover and lay it down on it. It's a perfect stand to I can get my tools out. You should see the looks I get at the construction sites around Vegas but f*ck um! I get the job done and save gas doing it!
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:40 PM   #2
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Kev:

Yes, a loose gas cap will throw a CEL.
Usually, three or so drive cycles will turn the light out if that is all that is wrong.
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:02 PM   #3
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you can also unhook your battery, i think i remember about 10-15 minutes will reset it. btw, your baja looks pretty nice!
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:49 PM   #4
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I have had a loose gas cap engage the check engine light on my 98 Outback. I have also had it come on when I filled up in Canada on a trip to Toronto a few years back, and it went off with the first fuel up back in the US, so I would think that bad gas could also set it off.

As far as the rack.... I like it. It suits your needs, good for you. I would just caution about anything sitting behind the window that could fly forward if you must stop quickly or if you were to be rear ended by a rubber necker trying to figure out what vehicle you have with that cool lumber rack .

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Old 01-04-2007, 10:55 PM   #5
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So... I really like the Subaru Baja.. but when you purchased yours - did you purchase it with the intent of it becoming a work truck?

Because I really think that you'd probably be better off with a work van or a normal... (?) work truck.

The Baja has never struck me as the kind of vehicle that I would want to have if I were a traveling carpenter/construction person; lumber stuffs just seems a little big for a trarck.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:36 PM   #6
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Dude it's a truck... some of us use it as a truck some of us don't..

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To me it's a truck and it will work like a truck..
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:23 AM   #7
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Ya believe it or not moonzie I 100% had the intent to use it for the work I do when I bought it I install stair handrails and spindles and what not, strictly finish work. I use to drive a company van that got 10MPG and was quite embarrassing to take chicks on a date in! I only thought my boss gave me ***** when I didn't have my own truck, you shoulda heard his reaction when he saw me pull up in Subie Before I bought it I organized and laid out all the tools I use on my garage floor and measured how much room they took up to make sure they'd fit in the bed of a Baja. It still blows my mind that some guys drive around these big ass trucks loaded with more crap then they'll ever use in a day, getting 15MPG at best, and they got a family car in the garage to boot. Double the car payment, double the car insurance,.. screw that.
I fit 3 five gallon buckets full of tools along the back wall, a fold-able table, a 1 gallon air compressor/nail gun, and 2 tool bags in the back easy and that's all I need. I've been installing now for just over a year and made enough money last year to buy 2+ Baja's working semi full time while everyone else down at the shop was working weekends to make ends meet. Fu*k that I'm going the beach!
Me and my girl took her to Brian Head xmas weekend snowboarding, you can't spin that sucker around less ya pull up on the hand break and crank the wheel!



Thanks cliffhanger, I'm gonna try the battery trick tomorrow and I'll let ya'll know.

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Old 01-05-2007, 06:37 AM   #8
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Also, Autozone's usually keep an OBD-II compliant scan tool behind the counter and will check a CEL light (tell you the code and clear it, if it is not a hard code) for free.

I've never used them for help with a Subie, but I have for other makes/models.

I can't imagine that if it's an OBD-II compliant tool that it wouldn't work for Subies too.

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Old 01-05-2007, 09:44 AM   #9
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whats it like going to a dealer whilestill under warrenty? Do they charge you?
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:09 AM   #10
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whats it like going to a dealer whilestill under warrenty? Do they charge you?

If it is a warranty issue, then they should not.

And that should include maintenance items on these guys right, didn't they say it's all covered???

BUT if it is your own stupidity, like running the motor with the fuel cap off/loose, then they MIGHT charge you shop time to hook up the scan tool and clear the code. A good dealership is smart enough not to as customer service, but you do risk a small charge.

Of course, like I said, I believe Zone will work and it is free. And once you know what the code is, you'll know whether or not you want to give it to the dealer.

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Old 01-05-2007, 11:03 AM   #11
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I had my check engine light come on about 2 months ago as well (24K) and my cruise kicked off and flashed... turns out it was just a clogged sensor, did everything free, ive also brought it in to just have them look at things i think are wrong (paranoia mabye) but its always been free.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:30 PM   #12
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I had my check engine light come on about 2 months ago as well (24K) and my cruise kicked off and flashed...
FWIW, I had something similar happen and called the dealer when the lights first came on flashing. They did tell me when the lights are flashing it's okay to drive, but if the CEL ever comes on and stays lit--not flashing, stop driving it immediately. Just something to keep in mind.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:47 PM   #13
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FWIW, I had something similar happen and called the dealer when the lights first came on flashing. They did tell me when the lights are flashing it's okay to drive, but if the CEL ever comes on and stays lit--not flashing, stop driving it immediately. Just something to keep in mind.
Does the owner's manual also say that?

Because that's different from the way the CEL works in most cars, something that manufacturers are usually loathe to do (to change) because many people would just keep driving anyway....
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:17 PM   #14
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Does the owner's manual also say that?

Because that's different from the way the CEL works in most cars, something that manufacturers are usually loathe to do (to change) because many people would just keep driving anyway....
Well now you have me wondering....maybe they said if it's on solid you can drive, but if it flashes, stop the engine. I can't remember and I guess I should find out for sure. I just remember when it happened to me, there were several lights on in the dashboard, and some were flashing. I have a service appt Monday for a PS leak--I'll ask to make sure which way the light should work when you should NOT drive it.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:20 PM   #15
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cool another BAJA enthusiast in VEGAS
Anyhow all warranty work is free including the diagnostic just ask them they should hook u up
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:15 PM   #16
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...hey downhilbil, you aint the one in town with the pooper scooper magnet on the door I saw the other day? That's just wrong! I bought runed him off the road and took his keys away from him!

Hey all I pulled the battery cable for, well, a few hours as I farted around inside and the light seems to be off now. I only took her down the road a bit but so far so good!
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:32 AM   #17
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Well now you have me wondering....maybe they said if it's on solid you can drive, but if it flashes, stop the engine. I can't remember and I guess I should find out for sure. I just remember when it happened to me, there were several lights on in the dashboard, and some were flashing. I have a service appt Monday for a PS leak--I'll ask to make sure which way the light should work when you should NOT drive it.

My point is to check your owner's manual, not to ask.

Too many dealer employees are undertrained, undermotivated, or just plain stupid.

Sometimes they just work with too many different brands, or suffer from urban myths.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:35 AM   #18
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Hey all I pulled the battery cable for, well, a few hours as I farted around inside and the light seems to be off now. I only took her down the road a bit but so far so good!
Hold out your hand so I can slap it now.

Here's the thing.

A trouble code means that something was wrong.

Maybe it's an intermittent. Maybe it is something engine control related that could come back.

Wouldn't you want to know what it is?

Just clearing it without finding out is not a good idea.

Yeah sure, maybe it was a loose filler cap and if so, no harm, no foul.

But it takes literally a minute to pull a code.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:55 AM   #19
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The gas cap being loose and the car running fine pretty much pointed to that being the problem. If it was something more I''m sure the light would've come back on pretty quick and then I would've tried the plugs and wires and if nothing then I would have taken it to the dealer. I drove around town last night and it never came on.
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That doesn't sound like you've ever troubleshot an intermittent.

This day and age a light cna come on long before you "feel" or "notice" a change in driveability.

But I do agree that 99% chance that's all it was.

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Old 01-07-2007, 05:42 PM   #21
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When i talked to my dealer he said if the CEL is on steady with the cruise flashing no problem the cruise is disabled for the "limp home" in essence. However if he said the CEL starts flashing, shut her down and call a truck.
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When i talked to my dealer he said if the CEL is on steady with the cruise flashing no problem the cruise is disabled for the "limp home" in essence. However if he said the CEL starts flashing, shut her down and call a truck.
Thanks for clarifying that! Good to know. I think I remember them mentioning something about the limp home mode but never made the connection as to why the cruise blinks. Anyway, thanks for straightening me out on that.
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Yeah i never knew that either... i was freakin out until i talked to him (happened in the middle of a 5 hour drive home)
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...hey downhilbil, you aint the one in town with the pooper scooper magnet on the door I saw the other day? That's just wrong! I bought runed him off the road and took his keys away from him!

Hey all I pulled the battery cable for, well, a few hours as I farted around inside and the light seems to be off now. I only took her down the road a bit but so far so good!
UMMM no im not the pooper scooper LOL this is me
I actually work at Shelby USA making gt's anyhow you should look up our flat4lv and maybe make a meet sometime every thursday @ in and out on sahara
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:23 PM   #25
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Hahaha~
Dude I so saw your Baja parked at Frys the other day, I parked a few spots up in the same row and on my walk to the store (could there parking situation be anymore s*itty) I passed your Baja with the Denver stickers on it. I doubled back to give it a walk around since it ain't often you see another one in Vegas. You got too much crap in your bed man, you better get a locking bed cover like mine! Haha!
At this point id normally proceed to make fun of your team not being alive in the playoffs anymore but romo f*ck*d it up for my Cowboys so ill just stop typing now
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