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Old 01-02-2009, 01:40 PM   #1
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Default another switching to synth

yes i know. i HAVE done my research. i have talked to my tuner amoung other local scoobs. I have also used the search button and found results.

FIRST details

03 with DP and full exhaust, larger tmic. nothing major. 74k on the Odometer.

now, my local guys and tuner (whom i trust, says stay with dino oil), a trust worthy mechanic friend swears on his vehicles and every vehicle that i should switch (he even gives me the reasons behind it), then nasioc says 74k really isnt that high of a number to switch.
i only spirit drive, no racing, no track, just a daily college kid doing his thing.


stay with or switch.


basically this is just reassurance for personal reasons haha



if im dumb, just refer me back to search button i guesss
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:47 PM   #2
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Switch to synthetic
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:06 PM   #3
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It's not worth all the heartache. Switch.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:25 PM   #4
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i switched to syn @ 70k
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:27 PM   #5
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awesome. thanks for the help
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:44 AM   #6
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Switch, most "synthetic" oils are not fully synthetic.

Only Mobil 1 and German Castrol are I believe.

Mobil 1 has a terrible shearing, and gets superduper thin as time goes on. Although as an N/A Subaru owner, it hasn't been as much of a problem for me. Most of the problems are in the turbo bearings.

German Castrol on the other hand have been giving really nice UOA's even up to 7500.
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:58 AM   #7
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Only Mobil 1 and German Castrol are I believe.
No. - There are plenty of them.

Mobil 1 5w30 = bad
German Castrol = Good
Amsoil = Best
(My opinons of course)

There is no reason not to switch to synthetic. There are benefits all around. As to WHICH synthetic you want to run, search here as there are plenty of "which syn is best" threads. Or head over to the BITOG site and you'll find more oil info than you ever wanted.
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:07 AM   #8
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I think oil is oil. Valvoline synpower 5w30 however has posted one of best UOA's in a 2.5 WRX. Valvoline is reportedly using the soon to be required phosphorous anti wear that even boutique oils will follow.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #9
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And Valvoline Synpower is only $19 for 5qt (or the special 5.5qt if they have any) jugs at Wal-Marts around the country, making it a killer deal as well.
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:20 PM   #10
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i picked up some mobil 1 for 32$ for 6
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:01 PM   #11
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i picked up some mobil 1 for 32$ for 6
0W40 or Turbo Diesel Truck 5W40 I hope. M1 has been showing marginal uoa results and Blackstone, a popular uoa lab, commented that they've seen subes showing high copper running M1 xW-30. High iron is also a concern with M1.

Valvoline has really been making some bold claims against M1 lately. Even though it is a group III base stock it does well in uoa's and they're claiming that Mobil is not meeting all of the specs they're supposed to.

Valvoline vs. Mobil thread at bitog.

Do yourself a favor and don't go over 3,000 miles on it without an analysis.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:02 PM   #12
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i picked up some mobil 1 for 32$ for 6
you should be VERY careful using the WRONG M1 oil

MANY issues caused by the Xw30 weights

Listen to Dennis, above.....he's one smart d000d on all of this....i learned most of what i know from him
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:52 AM   #13
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Valvoline has really been making some bold claims against M1 lately. Even though it is a group III base stock it does well in uoa's and they're claiming that Mobil is not meeting all of the specs they're supposed to.
Valvoline vs. Mobil thread at bitog.
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Listen to Dennis, above.....he's one smart d000d on all of this....i learned most of what i know from him
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:11 PM   #14
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using Rotella T syn 5x40 in winter, 15 w40 in summer. (dino)

before I get flames, I know it does not have the exact group base stock as say amsoil, but it is a damn fine oil, and excellent anti sheer. It also has one of (in my opinion) add packs that reduce metal to metal wear. High detergent levels also help keep ring packs clean.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #15
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^^^
Don't worry, nobody's gonna flame you for using Rotella, it's a highly regarded oil here and on BITOG.
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