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Old 01-02-2009, 07:39 PM   #1
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What kind of turbos are most of you using?

I'm assuming stock or small ones for quick spool and torque to get out of the corners fast.

Thanks.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #2
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What kind of turbos are most of you using?

I'm assuming stock or small ones for quick spool and torque to get out of the corners fast.

Thanks.
Can't speak for rallyx but autox is all about driver skill, tires, suspension, and finally power. IMHO, changing the turbo is pretty far down the list, so I'd say stock is the answer.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:18 PM   #3
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What class do you want to be in? That should be your first question. If you change your turbo at all.....welcome to SM or higher? And good luck with that, the turbo won't be the last thing you need to do to compete there.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:23 PM   #4
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I see. Thanks for the info. I'm really new to AutoX.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:31 PM   #5
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I see. Thanks for the info. I'm really new to AutoX.
Actually on either, power is down on the list. Grip (tires) and handling the grip (suspension) are the top two things mechanically that will net you faster times.

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Old 01-02-2009, 09:47 PM   #6
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Tires, Suspension, Alignment, and driver skill is what autoX is all about...power only sharpens the skills once you figure out how to drive. As much as you want to be fast out of the gate...ain't gonna happen...concentrate on DRIVING...worry about things you can control...and don't worry about trying to Win...Learn the Vehicle...the rest will come...



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Old 01-02-2009, 11:17 PM   #7
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It's not worth your time or money to even think about modifying your car to perform better in any motor sport until you aren't "really new" anymore - wait until you have enough seat time and skill that you are getting close to the limits of performance on your car, then figure out what that performance limit is and change it. You are the performance limit for now.

This is coming from someone who did auto-x, rally-x and ice racing for 5+ years in a 2.5RS and I never reached the limit where more power was the only thing keeping me from being faster (it would have been a crutch to add more power, instead I learned to better use what I already had). Then I downgraded to a 1.8L when I got a rally car and found that to be plenty challenging when learning to stage rally.

In an STI... forget about it, you already have a monster! Learn to tame it!

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Old 01-03-2009, 09:44 AM   #8
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Given that you now have some good advice in the posts above, let me mention that you can go a couple of ways with autox.

1) You can decide that autox is lots of fun but not your main goal. You can choose to do whatever mods you want, then just run whatever category that puts you in.

2) You can get hooked on autox and decide that being competitive IS your main goal. That means you'll need to pick a class that you want to compete in and understand the best mods for that class.

A good way to help decide is to run a number of events and get a feel for the sport and for the competition in your region. Don't worry about changes to the car yet, as others have said it is all about driver learning at the start. Get help from instructors - that's a huge plus - and be a bit humble about your skills.

If you decide you're hooked on autox, start checking out the eligible classes with a good turnout in your region, and start formulating a plan to add the mods you need, over time, while still focusing on driver skill improvement.

Remember that the biggest change you can make equipment-wise will do no more than knock a couple of seconds from your times, while it is common for the skill-gap to be in the 5-10 second range for new drivers.

Have fun.
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for rallyX, stock or equivalent.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:36 AM   #10
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Run what you got if you're a noob. You need experience, otherwise you'll be going at a snail's pace even in the best prepared car.
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Thanks for the help everyone!
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