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Old 01-16-2009, 10:35 AM   #1
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hey i was wondering if i can get my stok wheels to poke out a bit on my sti with wheel spacers to make it look more agresive? but i had a few questions ! would this effect perforemance in any way or hurt my car?? and wats the most i can make them poke and wat size spacers would i nedd??
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:40 AM   #2
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:20 AM   #3
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would this effect perforemance in any way or hurt my car??
Yes.

Now just forget the idea of spacers. Oh, and try doing a search.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:25 AM   #4
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Don't get caught up in this silly HerraFrush!!1!!1! craze. It's impractical and spacers are usually a bad idea. But if you must, they range from 3mm to as much as 25mm. Now, if I am not mistaken, the stock STi wheels are a +53 offset, so by adding a 25mm spacer, you are essentially making the wheel a +28 offset wheel. This may cause all sorts of fitment issues, without the added benefit of a wider wheel.

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Old 01-16-2009, 11:29 AM   #5
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:29 PM   #6
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Yes.

Now just forget the idea of spacers. Oh, and try doing a search.
mav....we need a 'stupid idea' forum to take all these.....maybe merge it with the car gallery forum????

this is really gonna be nothing but an increasing issue here as the average member age plumets
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #7
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there really is alot of threads on this. I feel like I replied to a question like this the other week. On the stock wheels it will take a 15 to 25 mm spacer to even change the look. The bolt on spacers are as sturdy as a bolt on wheel. For the price of spacers (200+ for good ones) you could put that towards wheels for the tires you already have and it will look much better than stock. The spacers do of course look better than the way it is. Spacers may increase wear on your wheel bearings over an extended period of time (nothing more than tracking your car would). Nothing to worry about too much. there has been less cases of spacers falling off than actual wheels falling off by themselves.. in either case it has to do with it being improperly installed (torque'd etc.)
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #8
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there really is alot of threads on this. I feel like I replied to a question like this the other week. On the stock wheels it will take a 15 to 25 mm spacer to even change the look. The bolt on spacers are as sturdy as a bolt on wheel. For the price of spacers (200+ for good ones) you could put that towards wheels for the tires you already have and it will look much better than stock. The spacers do of course look better than the way it is. Spacers may increase wear on your wheel bearings over an extended period of time (nothing more than tracking your car would). Nothing to worry about too much. there has been less cases of spacers falling off than actual wheels falling off by themselves.. in either case it has to do with it being improperly installed (torque'd etc.)
He asked if it would "effect the performance" which it most certainly will. Sure, it can be done, but if you actually give a crap about handling, you don't want to do it. Oh, and even then you forgot to mention that running anything more than 3mm spacers will require new wheels studs, which isn't just a simple slap-it-on process, and adds more expense. The only good suggestion is to just put the $$ towards wheels that actually fit.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:26 PM   #9
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^ didn't you read the part where I said "bolt-on" spacer... we aren't talking about 3mm spacers here, you can't even notice those. He also asked will it hurt his car. For a moderator you didn't read much of my post.

What's your personal experience with spacers mav1c? Spacers do not decrease your handling. It adds a wider track... which translates into alot of things you should do research on. I believe companies like H&R have been selling spacers for years and years with track setups in mind.

It's funny how every make of car in the world is allowed to run spacers successfully but somehow for a subaru it makes everything on your car terrible. My knowledge of cars doesn't stop on these forums. I've been envolved with loads of motorsports and different types of cars for years. It's all good to share your opinion, but the fact is that the people saying crap about spacers don't know a thing about them except what they've read on this forum.... which is crap.
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:47 PM   #10
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i noticed my 3mm spacers but not from a visual standpoint
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:33 PM   #11
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Its been a while since one of these was made. Buy wheels that fit...spacers are a bandaid if even that.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:25 AM   #12
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^ didn't you read the part where I said "bolt-on" spacer... we aren't talking about 3mm spacers here, you can't even notice those. He also asked will it hurt his car. For a moderator you didn't read much of my post.

What's your personal experience with spacers mav1c? Spacers do not decrease your handling. It adds a wider track... which translates into alot of things you should do research on. I believe companies like H&R have been selling spacers for years and years with track setups in mind.

It's funny how every make of car in the world is allowed to run spacers successfully but somehow for a subaru it makes everything on your car terrible. My knowledge of cars doesn't stop on these forums. I've been envolved with loads of motorsports and different types of cars for years. It's all good to share your opinion, but the fact is that the people saying crap about spacers don't know a thing about them except what they've read on this forum.... which is crap.


I'm not a suspension guru but I'm not sure if handling would be improved with a "wider track"

I think Subaru probably spent a good deal of time developing the stock suspension to work with certain offsets and IMO I don't think years of development by engineers can be improved on by young guys in their drive ways taking bats to their fenders and experimenting with spacers.

I personally love the way this hella flush thing looks, but living in NE I prefer smaller wheels and bigger tires.

For what its worth, I once had a set of 17x7.5s with a +42 offset and after switching to a subaru OEM wheel with a 52ish offset I could definately feel a difference in turn in and steering response.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:39 AM   #13
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I think low offset wheels definitely fall in the "NASIOC hate" category, along with intakes, blow-off valves, HID retro fits, etc...

Certain cliques of people on this site either love or hate them, and they fight these stupid internet arguments which makes it harder and harder to find useful information.

Do what you like, people. If you aren't sure about something, just research for yourself. The search tool is your frined. Read up, and take these 'expert' opinions for what they're worth. Some people have valuable knowledge to share, but most just offer speculation and theory to argue their point. How many cars do you know that have had failures due to these things, though? Bet you won't find many.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:47 PM   #14
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I keep sending the "hella flush" and "aggressive fit" dudes here
http://wfcrew.forumotion.com/forum.htm
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:00 PM   #15
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hey i was wondering if i can get my stok wheels to poke out a bit on my sti with wheel spacers to make it look more agresive? but i had a few questions ! would this effect perforemance in any way or hurt my car?? and wats the most i can make them poke and wat size spacers would i nedd??

dont be cheep, go buy some rims. spacers will tweek with your alignment, put added pressure on bearings, and are just a waist of time and money. go out and get a wider, more offset rim and please search topics before you post....saves thread space for a good topic


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I keep sending the "hella flush" and "aggressive fit" dudes here
http://wfcrew.forumotion.com/forum.htm
i just wish we could get all the d000ds that EPIC FAIL with all of this to post it.
How much $$$$ they wasted and how they killed the value of their cars and what got destroyed.

Never happen, though

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Old 01-17-2009, 04:11 PM   #17
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So adding a wider track automatically makes the car handle better? Ummm...OK...sure.

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^ didn't you read the part where I said "bolt-on" spacer... we aren't talking about 3mm spacers here, you can't even notice those. He also asked will it hurt his car. For a moderator you didn't read much of my post.

What's your personal experience with spacers mav1c? Spacers do not decrease your handling. It adds a wider track... which translates into alot of things you should do research on. I believe companies like H&R have been selling spacers for years and years with track setups in mind.

It's funny how every make of car in the world is allowed to run spacers successfully but somehow for a subaru it makes everything on your car terrible. My knowledge of cars doesn't stop on these forums. I've been envolved with loads of motorsports and different types of cars for years. It's all good to share your opinion, but the fact is that the people saying crap about spacers don't know a thing about them except what they've read on this forum.... which is crap.
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