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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
Good idea or no? I'm sure it's never been done on the car. I want to, but i'm nervous because of the high mileage.
I've searched and found a great deal on it, but I'm still not sure on mileage, or what vac line to feed through... Since the Brake Booster only hits the passenger side cylinders, and i dont have a turbo, so no BPV... where would it go besides the gas tank and crankcase? Any help is appreciated.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
I think ppl are waiting to laugh at me. So, I'm just going to leave it as a bad idea, and try it when my motor finally decides to not move anymore.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 122233
Join Date: Aug 2006
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: north jersey
Vehicle:1997 Legacy GT Aspen White 5MT |
i don't see why it would be a bad idea........
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 198984
Join Date: Jan 2009
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Dallas, TX
Vehicle:2005 2.5RS Blue |
I just checked out the Seafoam promotional video on Google Video. It appears that you just need some type of access into the intake while the engine is running. For a carburated engine this is easy since you just pull the air cleaner cover and pour it down the venturi body. For a fuel infected engine though it is tricky to just pour it down into the throttle body -- especially when it points to the firewall. So, just look for a vacuum line that goes straight into the intake manifold or throttle body and use a funnel or spigot to pour the seafoam in while the engine is running. If that is too much hassle then you can probably do just as well pouring it into the gas tank.
I usually use a product called RxP to decarbon my engine through the fuel system. To remove build up and sludge in the crankcase I'd use Auto-Rx instead of Seafoam. It seems that usually the guys with the Euro cars swear by Seafoam. They always talk about "smokin' the engine out". Granted BMW engines have some fairly tight tolerances and are well blue printed and balanced. So, buildup on the piston tops can throw things off over time. In theory any engine should benefit from a de-carbon treatment but some more so than others. If you are having problems passing inspection due to emissions issues then RxP or Seafoam is definitely worth a try. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
thanks for the replies. I'm still considering it, but i have a feeling there is a ridiculous amount of build up in the engine. And i've seen people warn against seafoaming a high mileage car, but no reason why...
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 832
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Teh Ghetto Garage, CO
Vehicle:99 2.5RS, '85 911 '73 914 and 2012 BRZ |
The reason they warn against it is the same reason people warn against switching to synthetic oil on a high mileage engine. Once it's cleaned out and the build up is removed there's a chance that the engine will develop oil leaks. Oftentimes, on an old high mileage engine, leaky seals get a little help from all the deposits on them. Once they are gone, leaks start. Then you are put in a position where you have to disassemble major components and replace seals.
Personally, I think the smart thing to do is just drive the car as is unless it needs maintenance. My '93 has 190k mi on it's original engine. It's recently gotten some leaks and when I go to do the timing belt in the coming months, I will pull the engine and do oil pump, camshaft, crank, and oil seperator plate seals at the same time. However, not everyone is in the position where they can just yank the engine and do such a major service. You've got to make your own decisions based on your skill level, needs, and financial position. I will say that there are guys over on Legacy Central (the 1990-1994 era cars) forums who swear by the seafoam treatment. Even though your car is marginally different, you might go over there to the engine forum and search for threads about it. I am sure you will find details of how to go through the process and how best to introduce it to your intake. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
hmmm... well, i just re-sealed the oil pump and front main seal... now the car seems to hold its fluids perfectly well. I think i may give this a try.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 22068
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: SLC, UT
Vehicle:00 GF4, 00 GM6 93 GF2 |
I've seafoamed my 134k ej22 and 198k ej18 engines, no problems. I switched them to synthetic too
I use 1/3 in the gas tank, 1/3 into the oil, and pour 1/3 through the PCV valve, then change the oil the next day. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
beautiful... i never thought of the PCV valve. thanks for the tip. I'll let you all know how it works out.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 122233
Join Date: Aug 2006
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: north jersey
Vehicle:1997 Legacy GT Aspen White 5MT |
i want to seafoam my car badly since i'm nearing 50,000 miles and i've read countless instructions on how to do it, but i have no idea what a PCV valve is so they're all useless. can someone explain or better yet post a picture of the PCV valve? sorry if i'm retarded for not knowing.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 180082
Join Date: May 2008
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I used seafoam at approximately 120k and I went through the gas tank to avoid the hassle. To be honest, I didn't notice any increase in gas mileage or driveability. I do hope it took out some deposits on it's way out though. I did notice that for a few weeks though I actually lost gas mileage but went back to normal.
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 157348
Join Date: Aug 2007
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Vehicle:It's rowdy outside I ain't signin' s*** |
I just went full synthetic on my 196k after seafoaming the crap out of it, so I'd take both comments with a grain of salt.
![]() No problems, engine's almost as good as new according to the dealerships around here. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 198885
Join Date: Jan 2009
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Boise, ID
Vehicle:1991 Legacy SS white |
do it.
start engine pull the hose clamp on the brake booster pull hose off booster pour/ let it suck/ seafoam into the hose the idle will drop so start slow and dump in as much as you can without the engine bogging out. do half a can or so. drive around town, flooring it at will just dont do it when your neighbor is trying to bbq with his family, cause he will hate you for it. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 124254
Join Date: Aug 2006
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Rhode Island
Vehicle:2006 06 SGM Slowbaru "The Scoobinator" |
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Member#: 156965
Join Date: Aug 2007
Chapter/Region:
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Location: Toronto
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 159057
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: everywhere
Vehicle:2004 ts wagon aspen white |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 199014
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Strange, I never knew that you could use seafoam for that too. I always just did 1/2 in the tank and 1/2 in the oil. Strange.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 181037
Join Date: May 2008
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:1997 BrightonRS Red |
I did it today... 1/3 in the tank which will take awhile to burn through, 1/3 in the oil which i'm changing tomorrow after some light neighborhood driving, and 1/3 through the PCV. WORKED GREAT! Smoked like a mo fo! Definitely more crisp on the throttle response... But I haven't really romped on it because i still have the seafoam in the oil. After tomorrow's oil change she should be cruisin just fine.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 168862
Join Date: Jan 2008
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Portland Maine
Vehicle:2007 ej253n/a 5speed Red Sox Nation Lifer |
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