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Old 01-21-2009, 12:49 AM   #26
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The blue car is parked on the top floor of a parking garage. If you just look at the picture you'll see that its actually just the reflection of the light pole running off the front of the car....not spiderwebbing or hologramming that would probably both require some type of focused light close to the surface to ID or some sunlight.

That being said, some people work in less than ideal conditions for their details, not everyone is fortunate enough to work in enclosed areas with perfect humidity or temperatures condusive to polishing or even drying a car(im thinking super dusty days here).

And that being said, in **ideal** conditions I can wash clay and one step a car(with some interior work too) in 5 hours working at a fast but never rushed pace. Obviously this is dependent on car condition both defect and dirtyness. And please believe on Japanese paint, this can sometimes mean close to 95%+ correction.

My customers who pay for really time intensive details want everything done. They want every surface treated, they want the best products used, they want the quality and the time involved. They want to know that everything is perfect and protected and they want something that nobody else would offer them. They love their cars, and see it as more than just a ton and half of metal.

People pay for time and money and materials involved. Most of my customers realize that I work fast but they also realize that I work slow. They pay me for a result but they know the amount of time involved with that work. If they are paying for a spruce up style detail of course I will do what I can within time and budget to improve the finish. They come to me for quality work, not a "I can do this for you and itll only take..."

Thats why it takes so long on some but not others..

And some pay for X amount of hours of work instead of a package
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:25 PM   #27
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Rickrack on autopia (I think i saw a link to one of his threads) does AMAZING work... and spends DAYS doing it. To do a full exterior detail on my car, i allow for about 6 hours... and my car is never in bad shape.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:46 PM   #28
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The blue car is parked on the top floor of a parking garage. If you just look at the picture you'll see that its actually just the reflection of the light pole running off the front of the car....not spiderwebbing or hologramming that would probably both require some type of focused light close to the surface to ID or some sunlight.
....I don't believe EnterTheDragon (ETD, correct me if I'm wrong) was mistaking the pole as a blemish. If you look at the reflection of the lamp on the hood, there is a hint of cobwebbing encircling the source of light as can be seen on the bumper as well. ....it's hard to make out but it's there.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:51 PM   #29
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My first time doing a full detail on my STI took me 9 hours and that was w/o doing a paint sealant.

Wash
Clay
Mask
1st pass(med-cut)
2nd pass(light swirls)
Hand wax

I'm sure the next time could go faster...but I am not sure by how much?

I typically spend about 5minutes per panel and per pass but I'm using whatever can with my UDM kit.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:09 PM   #30
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it took me about 12 hours to wash/clay/mask/polish/wax my STi...this was by hand, using meguires cleaner wax, polish, and NXT wax...just masking the damn trim took 2 hours

i can see how it takes the pros days to do a car...
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:40 PM   #31
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....I don't believe EnterTheDragon (ETD, correct me if I'm wrong) was mistaking the pole as a blemish. If you look at the reflection of the lamp on the hood, there is a hint of cobwebbing encircling the source of light as can be seen on the bumper as well. ....it's hard to make out but it's there.
Yea I saw what you guys mean. Tried zooming in and obviously only got pixelation. I cant put much faith into posted pictures(esp posted in smaller sizes) when they arent in sunlight or under halogens, something significantly bright to ID defects

Swirled black looks great at night

OP can we see some shots under halogens or sunlight? Surely you keep a photo record of your work..

For those who have a hard time masking everything for just 1 step jobs, try masking what you need to as you go around. That way time isnt fighting the adhesive and you can adjust or readjust(since we sometimes have to anyway) as you go.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:41 PM   #32
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Question: what are the fluid capacites of the auto trans and the front and rear diff, does the AT take Dexron III? what weight is the diff fluid?
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:15 PM   #33
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Depends on how bad the car is. I usually spend 15-20 hours on my car, and it is in REALLY good shape compared to most cars I see. I usually just do it over 2-3 days to be sure that I remove all of the swirls and scratches. And that doesn't even include the interior, just the outside


It really depends on your expectation of the results...If you pay for a 4-hour detail, don't be surprised if you get mediocre results. Don't expect to achieve close to perfection in a short detail. The people that are telling you 10-20 hours are realists, and probably understand what it takes to actually do a full detail
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:16 PM   #34
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And it begins....

Please read the stickies Mr. 200k+
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:15 AM   #35
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i see what you guys are talking about.
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:02 PM   #36
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Any car I detail thats even in so-so condition would take at the least 8+ hours but most likely 12+.

I just cant see it taking any less, the breaking down of the polishes is long.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:02 PM   #37
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WTF does that have to do with this thread, at all???
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