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Old 01-12-2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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Hi all... I'm from the UK and have a hawkeye WRX and am looking to get a new set of rims for it.
Have trawled through countless pics in the members gallery and am falling in love with newages running WIDE wheels:






However, not many (if any) scooby owners in the UK run wide wheels.

So could those that do on here, could you possibly give me some advice as to what wheels you're running and width/offset.

Also, if there are any problems with full lock, and if the car is lowered?
My car is currently lowered roughly by 30-35mm on Tein S-Tech springs.

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Old 01-12-2009, 08:49 PM   #2
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http://wfcrew.forumotion.com/tech-ta...s-first-t9.htm

^ that will help out alot

DownSTI is running S-techs with 235/40/18 tires on 18x9 +30 wheels and he has his fenders rolled with negative 2 in rear of camber and negative 1.X something in front

No full lock problems

edit: oh and mods move to the appropriate section
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:05 PM   #3
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However, not many (if any) scooby owners in the UK run wide wheels.


Thanks.
I guess ya got a lot of smart d000ds over there
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:56 PM   #4
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Im wanting to run the 18x9.5 rota grids with a +38 offset and 5mm spacers in the front. With a stretched tire (235/40/18), would i rub on my stock struts?
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:18 PM   #5
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^ you will definately need the spacer... what's your camber setup and suspension setup?
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:30 PM   #6
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WHY would someone want to run wider wheels? for the look
or does it give better traction
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:43 PM   #7
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Yea i know ill need the spacer, but im just worried about rubbing on the strut. I have completely stock struts all the way around, and prodrive lowering springs. I know im gonna need camber, i am gonna get that taken care of, but for now, i just need to know if ill rub on my strut and inner walls and what not.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:45 PM   #8
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WHY would someone want to run wider wheels? for the look
or does it give better traction
Track cars runs wide wheels with wide tires for traction. Most of us run wide wheels on our daily cars because it looks good. There is definately more than a handful of people running wide wheels on their daily car for traction also.

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Yea i know ill need the spacer, but im just worried about rubbing on the strut. I have completely stock struts all the way around, and prodrive lowering springs. I know im gonna need camber, i am gonna get that taken care of, but for now, i just need to know if ill rub on my strut and inner walls and what not.
You'll be fine with a small spacer up front.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:36 PM   #9
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what about the rear? can you shed some more light on the subject for me please??
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:40 PM   #10
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I don't know for sure since you are using stock struts. I would keep a spare 3-5mm spacer around just in case.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:02 AM   #11
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hmmm, anyone else have this setup and such? really dont want to order them and go to put them on to find out they are too big..
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Track cars runs wide wheels with wide tires for traction. Most of us run wide wheels on our daily cars because it looks good in the high school parking lot. There is definately more than a handful of people running wide wheels on their daily car for traction also.

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Old 01-13-2009, 12:42 AM   #13
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i have my 18x9 +30 bolted up to stock suspension with no rubbing on the struts, but im still waiting to get my fenders rolled and pulled
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:11 AM   #14
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yea, i wish the rota grids came in that size, its either 18x9.5 or 18x8.5, but the 8.5 doesnt have as much of a concave as the 9.5...damn, wish i would have caught this before i sold my bbs and returned my tires
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:27 AM   #15
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the 18x9.5 +38 is a big difference between a 18x9 +30

just to let you know the Rota Grid 18x8.5 do have a bit of a concave and they look pretty good also
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im running 18x9's with 265/35R18's on my 07 sti. no rubbing whatsoever, front, back, inside, outside. lowered on prodrive springs. most guys wind up running a bad offset and having to run smaller tires or mod the fenders. im using a +55 with 3mm spacers so i have an effective offset of +52. if you can, go with something in the +48 to +52 range as long as it clears the calipers. btw, this only works on stock style struts. it will never work with coilovers.
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im running 18x9's with 265/35R18's on my 07 sti. no rubbing whatsoever, front, back, inside, outside. lowered on prodrive springs. most guys wind up running a bad offset and having to run smaller tires or mod the fenders. im using a +55 with 3mm spacers so i have an effective offset of +52. if you can, go with something in the +48 to +52 range as long as it clears the calipers. btw, this only works on stock style struts. it will never work with coilovers.
I'm curious about why that setup would work with stock suspension, but not with coilovers? Wouldn't coilovers give you more room to work with as opposed to less room?
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:45 AM   #18
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I'm curious about why that setup would work with stock suspension, but not with coilovers? Wouldn't coilovers give you more room to work with as opposed to less room?
on the stock setup the springs sit above the tire, on some coilovers the coil sometimes sits at tire level or else the body might be bigger diameter. i dont have coilovers so i cant say for sure, but most agree that you lose inboard clearance.
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If you don't run any more negative spacing then on the factory wheels (but remember to adjust for the wider wheels), it'll clear any coilover setup.

On a side note, i much prefer the old American way of doing rear spacing, where you don't have to recalculate for a wider or narrower rim. Such as 4.5" (or what ever metric number you want) rear spacing. It's 4.5" rear spacing on a 8" wide rim and it's still 4.5" spacing on a 10" wide rim. Much easier.
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If you don't run any more negative spacing then on the factory wheels (but remember to adjust for the wider wheels), it'll clear any coilover setup.

On a side note, i much prefer the old American way of doing rear spacing, where you don't have to recalculate for a wider or narrower rim. Such as 4.5" (or what ever metric number you want) rear spacing. It's 4.5" rear spacing on a 8" wide rim and it's still 4.5" spacing on a 10" wide rim. Much easier.
to fit a wider wheel and tire you need to move it inboard too or else you run into fender clearance issues. either that or stretch a 215 over a 9.5" wheel with a crappy offset along with a stupid alignment and look like an idiot. personally, i prefer to use all available space and cram the biggest tire that i can on a car without doing a hack job, but it seems im in the minority when it comes to proper fitment.
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crappy pics, but you get the idea. it looks tighter in the rear than it actually is. i have 4 wheel drifted the car at 60 mph and i cant get it to rub, you really dont need much inboard room.

07 sti. prodrive springs, whiteline 27mm front, 24mm rear bars. stock alignment. 18x9 +55 with 3mm spacers for a little extra room. 265/35R18's.

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damn that looks close, do you have any pictures that show the entire car so i can see how it looks man?

anyone know if the 18x9.5 with a 38 offset and 5mm spacer will clear like these on stock struts with prodrive springs???
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anyone???
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damn that looks close, do you have any pictures that show the entire car so i can see how it looks man?

anyone know if the 18x9.5 with a 38 offset and 5mm spacer will clear like these on stock struts with prodrive springs???
it will clear the struts, but not the fenders. and i dont have any other pics on my computer now, ill try and get some.
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Looks good n2oiroc. Do you have more pictures of your car? I want to see what it looks like from 5-10 feet away.
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