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Old 01-13-2009, 11:04 AM   #1
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'Coop', here. I am new to the NASIOC forums, and I hope you will enjoy these figures:

Numbers:
Dyno: Dyno Dynamics (zero correction factor)
Tuner: Rob Bonamici
Wheel HP: 500.4
Wheel TQ: 505
Ambient Temp: 60
Elevation: Sea level

Current setup included:
AMR Front-mount intercooler (+100whp increase w/tune!)
AEM gauges: UEGO / Boost w/controller
AEM Meth nozzles in intake tract (2)
ACT 6-puck clutch
Upgraded tuning - 29lbs boost

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AEM Meth injection (into prior TMIC)
High-flow 850cc Injectors
AMR custom turboback 3" exhaust (vibration coupling, two resonators and a muffler)
AMR BMI cold air system
AMR T-60R Turbo unit
AMR Header & up pipe (Amazing welds!)
Walbro Fuel Pump
Hard-pipe inlet hose
TGV deletes and porting
AMR boost solenoid




THIS made a big difference:



Original HP with AMR TMIC: 400whp

I brought the car back into the Automaster shop primarily for a couple of things, and ended up with MUCH more than I anticipated.

I needed gauges, and Rob convinced me about the quality of the AEM gauges. I went with a dash pod and included a whiteface Autometer analog clock. (Time is important, too!)

The AEM UEGO A/F gauge, and the boost gauge with (2) programmable limits.

I wanted a stronger than OEM clutch and we agreed to the ACT 6-puck version. (This was an anticipated need, yet OEM wasn't acting improper.)

I wanted them to push it up and give me two tunes: One for track nights and to really press it. And another for 'safer' around town cruising.

Parts installed, Al and Rob pushed my TMIC as best as they could, but could not press beyond the 400hp limit. (50lbs torque increase, but no more HP.)

They even removed my custom quieter AMR exhaust, and only found a 4-hp increase. So, that wasn't clogging up the progress. What's the holdup....?

The TMIC has a smaller diameter inlet and outlet, even though it was a performance version from the AMR shop. Time to open the holes up...

After querying whether the FMIC would lose my low-end driveability, the guys convinced me the benefits would FAR outweigh any perceived penalty. OK, it's the slow Christmas season, let's go for it... (Of course they were right.)

Forgive the cheesy commentary by me, but here is the video I shot when they told me I was ready:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bITTfaoTimM

Here's the underhood shot. Note the hidden turbo is not rotated, and see the dual meth injectors Al plumbed inline:



Here's the kicker: I still have the OEM lower end. This project is, ostensibly, a bolt-on. Now, I know the rules and understand that this could go awry if I work it too hard or too often. But, I am convinced that the failures of pistons under horsepower stresses is MUCH less than the failures resulting from detonation. And so they have tuned it correctly, and I have to be judicious. This was my choice and their skills.

(The AEM secondary boost setting draws it down to 23lbs and it still made 448whp.)

The drive home was on a crowded hiway, but BOY can I tell the difference. "Insane!"

I hope Rob will come in and comment on whatever I have missed and clarify. Thanks for reading.

Coop
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:06 AM   #2
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welcome to nasioc

any other pics?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:15 AM   #3
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welcome to nasioc

any other pics?
Thanks, nhat.

Here it is just before I switched out to the WRX spoiler. I want the 'sleeper look'.



THX.

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:15 AM   #4
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WHOA! That sounds awesome!
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:57 PM   #5
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That is a very nice. Way to go man, looks really good.
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:08 PM   #6
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killer numbers
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:46 PM   #7
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Nice #'s for Rob's dyno, but I can't imagine the stock bottom end holding up for long...

Look forward to seeing you on the streets!
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:48 PM   #8
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Nice #'s for Rob's dyno, but I can't imagine the stock bottom end holding up for long...
Agreed very nice power!!

Agreed kiss that stock bottom goodbye
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:48 PM   #9
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very nice and on the stock block , good for you bro
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:30 PM   #10
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the hp seems to be peaking early for a 60 lb/min turbo......and dropping 70 hp from peak to redline seems to be alot if my memory serves me right.

Got a boost plot?
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:49 PM   #11
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the comments. Yes, I know I am at the upper limits with the lower end. I will have to be judicious in my usage. If that's possible...

Boost plot? Not me, but maybe Rob has that saved. I'll let him respond to that.

Thanks!

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:25 PM   #12
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Dont worry, it should hold up for a while. Mines been holdin up for quite sometime now on the stock bottom end. As long as shes tuned perfect than you should have no worries. That doesnt mean its okay to drive it like u stole it everyday at 29lbs. of boost neither. There are 2 major factors you need to have a reliable motor. Awesome Tune and lots of DISCIPLINE to go with it. Good luck man.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:28 PM   #13
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Great looking car and build, but I would start thinking about that bottom end just to be on the safe side, 29psi is pushing it !!
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:33 PM   #14
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BTW, I have (2) states of tune (boost). The readings here are at max. My daily driver will *only* be running @23lbs. boost.

I don't anticipate much drama.

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:38 PM   #15
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I Like. I Agree with Phatron seems pretty early for 60lb/min. Nice numbers!
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:13 AM   #17
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Great looking car and build, but I would start thinking about that bottom end just to be on the safe side, 29psi is pushing it !!
the 29psi is not that bad....he's probably only hitting it for a millisecond ~4600rpm.....

And by the looks of his tq tapering off 150 ft*lbs from peak to redline (which is alot compared to most others) in conjunction with his peak hp being around 5600rpm (which is way early for a 60 lb/min turbo, for reference my Green & HTA Green hit peak hp ~6000-6200rpm).......both of these things point to his boost dropping off drastically in the upper rpms. I'd venture to guess his boost peaks at 29psi and is tapering to 21-22psi at redline.
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The reason why the hp numbers drop at the top end is because it has a 7cm^2 exhaust housing with a 60' lb/min compressor. If this turbo was offer with an 8cm^2 it will be better up top but it will spool a bit later. I'm still impressed with these number and will consider this turbo if had the $2k.

Nice Numbers!!!!
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the 29psi is not that bad....he's probably only hitting it for a millisecond ~4600rpm.....

And by the looks of his tq tapering off 150 ft*lbs from peak to redline (which is alot compared to most others) in conjunction with his peak hp being around 5600rpm (which is way early for a 60 lb/min turbo, for reference my Green & HTA Green hit peak hp ~6000-6200rpm).......both of these things point to his boost dropping off drastically in the upper rpms. I'd venture to guess his boost peaks at 29psi and is tapering to 21-22psi at redline.


Good eye. The TQ drop is due to the 7cm2 housing which "wil06STI" pointed out. This turbo is equipped with our custom billet actuator in which FORGE has custom made for us to fit our specifications. This vehicle holds 29psi straight to redline with no taper. I am also not running much timing up top. If I ramped the timing the TQ would carry a bit more. But before we get tuning happy, we must remember this is a stock engine. 500whp / 505wtq with zero correction is alot of power. So we left it there .



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hahah...my guess was a little off ......only by 7-8 psi

what do you consider "not much timing" up top? 16*? or 20* since its got meth?
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wow the FMIC added 100whp with a tune?
is that right?
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hahah...my guess was a little off ......only by 7-8 psi

what do you consider "not much timing" up top? 16*? or 20* since its got meth?


Not much to us would be around 15*-16* max up top.



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Old 01-14-2009, 01:41 PM   #23
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yeah that is low for 93+meth.....
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That is low up top... 7cm hhhmmm I thought boost taper too, that makes sense though.
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Not much to us would be around 15*-16* max up top.



-Rob
-Rob,

with all do respect, prove it. Throw his timing map up.....nothing else.



If it's like all your other tunes it will be about 11.0:1 AFR
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