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sway bars 24 96.00%
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:37 PM   #1
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i have a 2002 wrx and as far as suspension goes its completely stock, and i was wondering what would be better to get first sway bars or strut bars?
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:42 PM   #2
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Sways bars X eleventy!!

Strut bars do relatively little in the way of performance when compared to sway bars.

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Old 01-16-2009, 01:46 PM   #3
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Rear sway mostly, i would say and endlinks too! strut bars mostly the front are more for looks
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:04 PM   #4
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Strut bars are not even worth it. I have them, they don`t do anything. Good swaybars front and rear with kartboy endlinks is a HUGE DIFFERENCE

EDIT: TIRES FIRST!

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Old 01-16-2009, 02:22 PM   #5
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One the cheap, bump up the rear bar to the oem 20mm and call it a day. If you want a little more then that, look at a whiteline adjustable rear, say 20-24mm adjustable. The end links should be upgraded. This will neutral out the handling without messing up the comfy ride.

My advised next step would be tires after that, especially if the car is still very stock and running on oem RE92s. A good performance tire will bump up the grip considerably.

If you've got cash laying around after that, look at the rubber bits all over the car.
-Steering rack bushings and ALK for snugging up the front end and create a very exact and precise front end/steering.
-Rear lateral link and trailing arm bushings and subframe locking bolts to lock down the rear end and make the back end exact and precise.
-Engine, pitch stop, and transmission mounts(& crossmember) and rear diff outrigger and rear bushings to lock down the drivetrain and remove all slop and delay in power delivery between engine and ground.
-Front and rear shifter bushings and transmission mount(& crossmember) to lock down the shifter and tighten up shifting precision.
-Front and rear tophats to remove the cush in the suspension and provide more direct road/chassis interaction.

Address what bugs you. If you upgrade all the bits with Group N, Kartboy, and Whiteline rubber and poly bits, you will essentially have a whole new car, something that is a precision tool rather then a sloppy mess. Also, it's an '02, so the stock rubber bits are starting to get/have been worn out anyways. The individual parts are not all that pricey, but the sum of all does get expensive. Check out Rallispec and Turn in Concepts for all your bushing/mount parts. Rubber > Poly where you can use it. Spherical bearings are viable alternatives. All the front bushings/mounts are direct bolt on/swap in stuff. All the rear bushings are press fit, and require a lot more work. There are alternative, easy options that do the same job. Look up Unabomber's Sexy Rear End at Turn in Concept's site. Also, all the lateral links and trailing arms are press fit too, easier because they're smaller, but for a direct swap, consider aftermarket pieces for a direct bolt on, generally a poly bushing or spherical bearings, not cheap though.

The oem 20mm rear sway can be gotten from SubaruGenuineParts, the aftermarket Whiteline adjustable and endlinks from Turn in Concepts.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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the only thing my front strut bar does is prevent my windshield from creaking when i go over bumps.

sway bars you'll feel immediately.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:04 PM   #7
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i vote neither.

tires FTW!
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:20 PM   #8
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i vote neither.

tires FTW!
+1 Tires will make more of a difference then most anything else. Think about it, tires are the only thing that connects your car to the road.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:21 PM   #9
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I'd get sway bars before strut bars for sure. Rear sway made a big difference on my car but I have yet to get a front sway bar. I do have both front and rear strut bars and only the rear made any difference. The front was more for engine bay bling lol
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:47 PM   #10
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i thought sway bars but i figured id ask you fellas first, and i was thinking of getting the cusco front and rear sway bar package right here:

http://scoobytuner.com/products/?vAp...&productID=730
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:38 AM   #11
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1. Read the suspension rules sticky.
2. Read it again, paying special attention to rule #4.
3. Ask a more specific question

IMHO the Cusco front bar is not big enough to be worth it. There are plenty of rear bars out there in the same size. Buy used, like the FAQ says. It's cheaper. Pick a bar based on size, not brand.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:27 AM   #12
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oh im sorry, lol i didnt even notice that.

but what i want to use the car for is everdaydriving but i wanna go autocrossing and such this year
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:06 PM   #13
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ok so i just looked at the cobb ones again that i posted the link to earlier.

apparently both are 25mm, now my question is with both bars even, will that get rid of the understeer noticibally(sp?) or will those be too much for my stock suspension? ive been reading alot of the stickeys on this subject but im still a bit confused on it.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:14 PM   #14
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Did you read the swaybar FAQ? It discusses the Cobb bars specifically...
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #15
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i dont think im finding the one youre talking about, unless its post #5 on this thread? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1152714
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:11 PM   #16
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Right. The Cobb bars are hollow, and a hollow bar is not as stiff as an equivalent diameter solid bar. Post #5 has the "solid equivalents". So the Cobb bars are not even unless the rear bar is on the middle setting. Since the rear bar is adjustable you have some flexibility there to play with the rear bar to try to get the balance you want.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:50 PM   #17
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He's already got an OEM 20mm rear sway if he has a sedan. I'd go with 24mm front and rear whitelines, or the Cobb set.

And i'd go with sways over tires personally in terms of fun-to-drive factor. Get tires when you need them. If you're trying to be competitve in auto-x, then yeah, you need better tires. But for just street driving, i just want a tire that has decent grip and a decent sidewall.

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Old 01-17-2009, 02:59 PM   #18
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okay cool, thanks guys
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