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Old 01-21-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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i was wondering, after i clay, what steps should i take to make a nice finish without haze, im ordering menzerna sip tommorow and was wondering what else i will need....im mostly using this to try and detail my g/f's car, it has these white marks all over the hood that ive tried to get out, and it just wont, so i was hoping sip can do this, would you guys reccomend anything else, like a finishing product or anything i will need before and after sip, i will be applying this by machine also....thanks
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:34 PM   #2
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Depends on what color the paint is. If it is a dark colored car then yes you would have to finish up with either 106FF or PO85, to get rid of the imperfections left by the SIP. What kind of machine are you using and what color is the car?
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:41 AM   #3
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In your case, subaru paint is really easy to work with, it corrects really easy and well(very "friendly"). Most people need to follow up SIP with something more along the lines of a finishing polish. 106 is pretty much what everyone recommends, its a very nice product aside from the dusting. For what its worth, you can get great correction on subaru paint with 106 and green and white pads. The pads bump the aggressiveness of it but you can finish down(if orange leaves a slight haze) by just going over it again with 106 on white or even black. - I was just thinking in case you abandon the GF car idea so you can save some money by buying only 1 product to start

For your GF its probably more dependent not on color, but what kind of paint it is(car make/model) and what the marks youre talking about are. If the marks are deep etching from bird deuce sitting in the sun unprotected for a few days, then you may be able to reduce them, but then again SIP may only give marginal improvement.

What are the marks and what is the GFs car?
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:10 AM   #4
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that sounds perfect for my car, her car is a 1998 bmw 323i convertible, its black, and ya i think its bird poop that sat for a WHILE, she just got the car for a kick ass deal so i want to make it good as possible.....thanks for helping
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:02 AM   #5
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Yes, you definitely need to follow up SIP with something finer. 106 is one of my favorite polishes, I've used it on many vehicles as my only polish by simply varying the aggressiveness of the pad.

Are you using a rotary or a dual action polisher (Porter Cable/Meguiars G100/G110)?
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:16 AM   #6
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Also, to ensure that all of your hard work lasts and the swirls don't come back make sure you use a couple natural sheepskin wash mitts (not the synthetic kind) and utilize the two bucket method. Throw in a Grit-Guard for extra security. When I had darker paints I would use five bucks (4 with Grit-Guards) and had anywhere from 5-10 wash mitts. I would use the two bucket method on each side of the car and then had one bucket just to hold dirty wash mitts. I would never use a wash mitt more than 2-3 panels and then I'd chuck it into the fifth bucket and grab a fresh bucket. It was a little over the top and my washing process took over an hour but it was worth it to have a swirl-free finish as long as possible; I'd rather spend a little extra time washing the car than repolishing.

Now I have silver paint so I'm not being quite as anal about the whole process.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:03 AM   #7
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Yes, you definitely need to follow up SIP with something finer. 106 is one of my favorite polishes, I've used it on many vehicles as my only polish by simply varying the aggressiveness of the pad.

Are you using a rotary or a dual action polisher (Porter Cable/Meguiars G100/G110)?
the pad and the product are very important. Go to detailersdomain.com and see what they say on there to use. Also a mikita is another option for the orbital
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Old 01-25-2009, 03:07 AM   #8
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Makita is a rotary.

OP I highly suggest you do a test spot (about an 18x18in square) maybe on the trunk lid.

If you car is jet black I think you may be in for a terrible time. Jet black is miserable color to polish and sometimes with an dual action or an ROB the movement action removes the defects but in the process puts in a nasty haze. The rotary's action is the only thing that will clear this up.

Cliffs: test spot first.
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Old 01-25-2009, 03:31 AM   #9
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ok, since it's an e36 bmw, the paint on it is very weird. there's, like, a bazillion coats of clear and a couple of color. the white marks on the hood is probably from rocks hitting it on the freeway if they're deep, or just water deposits. but either way, it's going to be a pain to get off. if it's deep into the color, yeah.... i can't help you there. but if it's just stains, you'll have to wash the car a couple times, then hit it with liquid rubbing compound, the real kind (again, there's loads of clear, so don't worry too much). you can use a random orbital buffer or by hand, either way works. just remember not to overheat the paint by leaving the orbiter on one spot. then hit it with scratch remover. that should dim down whatever the stains are if they're not completely removed. from there, i recommend klasse AIO and the klasse glaze. the former is the absolute most cost effective polisher i've ever seen. the latter is synthetic wax, basically. if you want to hit it up with einszett (sp?) sealant instead of the klasse, you can too. they both work wonders. with my old e36, the combination of the above made everyone think i got a new car.

good luck, and be prepared to spend hours polishing up the baby.
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