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Old 01-24-2009, 07:03 PM   #26
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Yep its funny, those cars come from bob kolb dealership in upstate NY. For some reason he insists on putting the word elite everywhere.

He has other ones too....Forester Estate

I don't care if they don't really exist...it makes mine unique and I didn't have to pay extra for the leather and sunroof. Besides, he's supposedly the worlds largest Subaru dealer in the world I would think that if Subaru had a problem with him modding the cars his way they would have shut him down. This is just his version of the car just like Eddie Bauer and LL. Bean and all those other people who customize cars.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:23 PM   #27
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Always liked Subarus because they were cars with 4WD. When your a teenager things like that are just cool. While working for pennies and in my 20s, I found a '78 BRAT for $900. Drove that thing everywhere, even though it vibrated like no tomorrow above 60mph. It ran trails and fire roads better then my sisters Wrangler.

When I finally got a 'real job' I traded it in for a Thunderbird SC. Black on black, leather, sunroof, supercharged...man... I was pimpin. Took about a month to realize I made a mistake. The bird was too heavy, hard to work on, hot, and underbraked. Mechanically reliable, but trim, windows, A/C etc. etc. all hard problems.

About this time, and unrelated to Subaru, I started getting back into WRC and rallying. Then Subaru came out with the 2.5RS. Man, I wanted one so bad. Alas, no money and too much overhead for another payment.

Waiting, waiting....waiting. Got married. Had twins. The T-bird (and a little Mazda I picked up) had to go.

Luckily the timing was right when the WRX reached our shores in mid '01 . "One please, in Midnight Black Pearl." I was rolling. I rallycrossed it. I hit a K-rail in my basically new WRX. Wife puts her foot down... "NO more racing in the new car" .

By now, I'm totally into Rally and McCrae. I knew my new rallycross car was going to be a first gen Legacy. A turbo if I can find one. I found one, and in my budget no less. However, it was an auto. You know what....? It made a better daily driver than the WRX. It was just as fun to drive and had more room and a better ride. So the WRX sat while the 10 years older Legacy was racking up the miles. I drove it over the WRX for over a year.

I decided to finally swap the auto out for a 5-speed. So up on blocks it went. For far too long........, in fact it's still on blocks. But another '93 SS dropped in my lap. This time a factory 5-speed. It's story is here: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=35213 . I'm still daily driving that one, and still over the WRX.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:54 PM   #28
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My wife and I had been together for quite awhile. A few nasty winters getting stuck in her FWD Honda, I decided enough was enough. I wanted something with AWD.

I originally bought a Camry All-Trac. My plans were originally to keep this as the family/winter vehicle, allowing me to buy a rx-7. I had previously owned a '93 RX-7 and I missed the car (still do). Camry All tracs are a bit tough to find in 5-speed. The specimen I purchasd was on the east coast, and had some rust problems. While it ran fine, I was concerned about throwing money into a rusting carcass.

The WRX is nice, the rear seats are too small. We didn't have kids yet, but I was making a purchase in planning for that event. I test drove an automatic '98 Legacy and really liked the driving behavior. I found my '99 5-speed after a couple months of searching. Originally the plan was to still pay it off and go after that RX-7.

In the mean time I started making some small modifications to make the car more fun to drive. First it was just springs and struts, some swaybars and end links. Then Brakes. More research lead me to discover Subaru's are like Legos. The rest is history I guess. The mods still keep on coming. Before the new generation turbo legacy had just arrived I was on the fence on whether to trade or keep upgrading. At that point I already had a few thousand invested in the car. I test drove the new Legacy and it wasn't enough to want me to trade in my car. So in goes the STI engine.

While I still crave owning a 2 seat sports car, my Legacy keeps me happy enough that I haven't seriously looked into getting another car.

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Old 01-25-2009, 02:16 PM   #29
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:11 PM   #30
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The Legacy was the first car I ever got to drive. It was our family's 1995 L wagon with an automatic. My Dad purchased it new as the family hauler. I spent thousands of miles on long road trips in the back seat of that thing. Even though I was too tall for the back seats (6'2" in the 8th grade) I had come to appreciate the car for what it was. When I finally turned 16 I fully understood why my parents loved the car so much. After I turned 16 I went through a buying frenzy of old cars; '89 Peugeot 405 Mi16, '77 Porsche 924, '77 Lancia Beta, '84 Renault Le Car, '89 Audi 100q, '87 VW Cabrio, all before the age of 18. While all my cars kept breaking down, the Legacy always remained faithful as a backup car to me. My Sister now owns the Wagon and its still going strong and better than ever - equipped with factory GT-B Bilsteins & such


I finally came across a decent amount of cash when I was 19 after settling in an insurance settlement. I searched for a long time before finding just the right Legacy. It had to be a stick shift, all wheel drive and a sedan. I had enough money for the GT, but admittedly feared the 2.5L because of the failing head gaskets. I got my BD in April of 2006 and have loved it ever since. Now I'm a forum moderator and have learned so much about Subaru's over the last few years. My affliction with Legacy's began almost 14 years ago, and will continue for many more. Like Kraziken I crave a 2 door sports car and will pick up an FC3S RX-7 soon but only to compliment my Legacy. I'm planning to keep this car forever.

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Old 01-26-2009, 03:11 AM   #31
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Besides the fact that Legacy's are bad ass I had an 2002 WRX and I loved it but it was really expensive. I also found this Legacy for only 500 and I love working on it all the time. Personally the 95-99 legacy wagons look awesome and have amazing potential the plan now is to buy a wrecked WRX and swap the whole drive-train and interior over so it will be like I have my WRX back but will only cost 3500 instead of 10000 plus then I also get all the knowledge from my swap and will know my car inside and out

I can honestly say this car is amazing I would not trade it for anything, while sometimes it would easier to go with another car this car just makes me feel awesome and I can not wait to repay the favor with s little TLC back her way

Also because everyone with a WRX is looking for STI and aftermarket stuff, that makes WRX parts on these forums real cheap and I can buy a lot of nice parts for really really cheap

Legacy Wagon Sleepers FTMFW : Quote from my pal reddevil

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Old 01-26-2009, 10:14 AM   #32
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cheap to run, dependable in bad weather (with better than RE92 tires).
Parts are fairly easy to come by, near-fanatical support by enthusiasts.

Plus the 2nd and 3rd gens don't have a lot of electrical trickery going on to make them run. They're still fairly simple, and easy enough to work on. You can get your headlights out without dropping a bumper. And you don't need tiny fingers to change a headlight bulb or sparkplug.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:53 AM   #33
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First off, I like wagons... so that probably disqualifies everything else I have to say for many.

HMM... let's see. I had a 98 A4 1.8T with FMIC. Too damn expensive to repair and always had little issues.

2002 WRX wagon. Great car has ~150K on it now and has been a very good car. Has a Greddy Evo2 exhaust and JDM suspension. Still looks like a ricer and on the small side.

The 2005 Legacy GT wagon, I looked for 3 months to find the 2005, the only year the wagon was offered with a manual tranny. Found one, a guy was getting separated/divorced and had to sell. It had a lot of nice mods already done and was around 260WHP. I got the car for what I wanted to spend and threw another $2.5K at it... Under $22K total with 45K miles and I have 290WHP/320WTQ. VF40/18G hybrid, Perrin TMIC, Maddad Headers, cheap-o uppipe, Cobb DP, Koni struts, full cusco frame braces, 18" OZ superleggeras, Labonte meth inj., so a solid Stage 2+. This car is PLENTY fast for a daily driver. Much bigger on the turbo and I think you lose daily drivability. This thing will run with an S4 for way less money.

Oh and the best part, insurance is dirt cheap compared to my OLDER WRX (which has about 100 less HP).

And I just put a 10' section of aluminum gutter in it. WITH THE HATCH CLOSED. I've also move a table saw, planer and full size router table in one load.

For me, it's the ultimate car.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:56 PM   #34
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Because I found one for sale for $400 and I wanted a legacy wagon for space I could not resist.

being without a Subaru for 2 years and not driving still feels like I'm dreaming still... feels good to be back in a Subaru.

man and just to think I saw the listing on CL and for $400 I was thinking maybe it was FWD... so talked with the seller and it was AWD and it just needed some exhaust work done and needs new water pump and a possible radiator leak so I will be replacing all that this weekend.

On the side note you would think my family members would be happy after not having a car for 2 years.. but no they just want to talk negative and asking why I got it private seller..

Oh and I must say this car is a 5MT it took forever to find one here in the NE and one where it's not $10,000 for one with 200,000 miles
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:57 PM   #35
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Dp.............

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Old 03-17-2009, 04:16 PM   #36
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This is a long story. My ex and I purchased an 04 WRX for a good price, but it just wasn't what I wanted. I was looking for more power, and I wanted a 6 speed although the WRX was auto (like I said great price 7K for a 2004 WRX in mint cond. in 2006) Anyway I then bought an 06 STI which I loved, stage 2 was a great car but I'm a bachelor at heart and I hate children more than I hate taxes. I was sick of having 4 doors, and I wanted to buy my real dream car (97 Supra) so I got rid of the STI, and I got Supra while visiting Texas for a while. I came back to NJ and knew a Supra was NOT the car I wanted to be driving in NJ on the terrible roads, in traffic all day every day. I I wanted something with more room again, to do some more traveling with that costs next to nothing and I didn't care about.

Well, the first con artist junk car lot I came across at the side of the road had a really crappy looking 98 Legacy L wagon. I am a mechanic, a detailer, and an artist of sorts I could make your mom look good if I had a hose, a scrub brush, and some meguiars products. So I bought it, and have put 8,000 miles on it in the past 7-8 mos? Driving around the country and enjoying my life with the 5 speed and awd plenty of room for my camping and hiking expeditions and it carries my stuff from state to state while still getting 30 mpg on the open highway. (car now has 184,500 miles on it and it runs like it's brand new.)







Yes, it's extremely difficult to go from owning both of your dream cars, to driving a red station wagon, from the 90's but guess what.. it doesn't matter. Cars are just an expense and a hobby. When I buy a house with a garage I'll buy another toy car but until then I'll drive this old wagon and save up to build a log cabin home where I can keep what ever car I buy next. (probably a lotus Exige S)

You'd be surprised who you see in a Legacy! (saved 60,000 by losing the STI & Supra)

BTW, bought the legacy for a whopping $1,500 when the dealer was asking $3,200. I put tires, muffler, gas, and oil in the car and it's been one hell of a trooper. You couldn't beat that deal with a stick.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:08 PM   #37
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I think Legacy's are nice looking cars. I find them to be a little more luxurious than the other Subarus. They are not too sport looking and don't stick out as much.
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:14 PM   #38
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When I was a grease monkey, I used to see various Sport Sedan and Touring Wagon models come in. Always wanted a Subaru, and made the move ten years ago.

Until a few years ago they were the best selling model, and over three million of them are out there.

More refinement is nice, and a more mature image goes along with that. I once drove around in my 93 TW for nine months without current registration, as they're just so inconspicuous, especially in the Rockies, no matter how loud they are
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:12 AM   #39
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Let's see...I totalled my Grand Cherokee and had to find a replacement car within a week. I wanted another Jeep, but with gas prices climbing, I figured an AWD car would be better than a Jeep. Plus Subaru seems to be the official car of VT. I looked at my 99 Legacy SUS and a 2000 Legacy L. I saw the SUS first and wasn't thrilled that it was an automatic but it had nice creature comforts and was in good shape. I then drove to a different dealer about 30 minutes away, took a look at the L for 2 seconds and decided on the SUS. The L was in terrible shape. Ultimately the SUS is better suited for me with the higher ride height.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:44 PM   #40
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I am just curious what 'drove' everybody here to drive a Legacy? Since '02 when the WRX came out, Subaru offered a more powerful car with more aftermarket for similar cost...

What's your rationale for driving a Legacy vs. any other vehicle? Or, if you own other vehicles, do you prefer your Legacy? Why/not?
I got one because it has a stick shift and awd. Rare combo for $20,000.
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:46 AM   #41
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simple. one word "interior".

when i was in the market for a car, since i have a truck, i was looking at the wrx. it just so happened at a dealer the legacy was right next to it. opened the door and was sold. i'm tired of ****ty cloth interiors and the nice leather and cleaner styling of the legacy won it for me. Also it does seem to be bigger and have more leg room then the wrx which isn't a bad thing.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:52 PM   #42
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I plan on getting an 05-09 legacy turbo when I get older. I love the luxuary sport
sedan style soo hawt!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:24 PM   #43
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1. I go on roadtrip a lot, so far 22 states, at any time (spring, summer, fall, winter)...so, i need car that can go to anyplace at anytime.

2. I can haul many things in my car, my car = second home. Ikea's Klippan sofa fit perfectly on BH5.

3. I do not like to follow everybody at that time, when WRX just entered the US market....

4. I love the boxer and rotary sounds compare to Inline 4-6 or V6 engine....
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:38 PM   #44
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awd (canada), small outside, big inside, dual sunroof, safe, not one on every corner, the sound and lots of others

oh yeah and its funny to see people stare at a wagon the same way they would stare at a sports car

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Old 04-03-2009, 12:40 AM   #45
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I was lookin 2 get a Rex cuz I wanted AWD, a decent, powerful platform w/potential and huge aftermarket 2 individualize/mod my car. However I can't see gettin 4 6ft'ers in a WRX comfortably so I got the LGT. I guess their backseat is 4 kids and insurance purposes which is what the Subie salesman even admitted.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:36 AM   #46
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I knew I wanted something not FWD as a change of pace for my personal car. Was looking at an impreza/obs, but got a deal on the Legacy (seller had trouble finding a buyer in upstate NY, I bought it for around 2k less than KBB, only 1k more than what I was finding even older imprezas...I guess no one likes 5 speeds). Sometimes I wish I had got a wagon, but finding a 5 speed wagon in my area was even harder it seemed.

I like that its bigger on the inside, rides well on the highway, and it looks like a camry (even now) to the po-po so I can be doing 15 over the limit and still blend in .

I've daily driven it, autocross'd it, rallycross'd it, taken it on a few 700 mile trips, hauled more stuff than it should have in it, and plan to keep it past residency.

The lego thing is a bonus AND curse. Now I can't stop finding things that can be modified to bolt onto it.

As stock as I have for a pic:


Sorta now...
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^ I am likin' those headlights.
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Old 04-06-2009, 04:38 PM   #48
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I think I'm hooked on Legacy wagons. I got my 98 back in 2002 and that was when the WRX had just come out so it was outside of my budget. Just bought another 95 wagon for practically nothing - which is excellent for such a fun, practical car.
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:12 PM   #49
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Let's see...I totalled my Grand Cherokee and had to find a replacement car within a week. I wanted another Jeep, but with gas prices climbing, I figured an AWD car would be better than a Jeep. Plus Subaru seems to be the official car of VT. I looked at my 99 Legacy SUS and a 2000 Legacy L. I saw the SUS first and wasn't thrilled that it was an automatic but it had nice creature comforts and was in good shape. I then drove to a different dealer about 30 minutes away, took a look at the L for 2 seconds and decided on the SUS. The L was in terrible shape. Ultimately the SUS is better suited for me with the higher ride height.

funny story.. my mom was looking at replacing her 91 maxima when she had it with a grand cherokee.. she was going nuts over the car... I remember when I first signed up here and I had her check out the subaru.. first thing she said was it's ugly!

fast forward about 15 months the maxima was starting to cost too much for repairs... so somehow I got her to start looking at some subaru's and we found a white 98 forester she was impressed and so after we brought the car we took it to the subaru dealership and she kept asking them how was the car going to be in the snow after the first snow fell she was hooked when the forester got near 100K she traded it in for another forester she's looking at a legacy now

I still dunno how I got her to test drive the subaru... still puzzles me
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:16 AM   #50
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Where to start.... I dont know. Short answer is I picked Subaru for AWD, and I picked my BE due to price and availability.

Longer story..... I moved up to Alaska and after dumping my car before moving I was in need of something. Coworkers warned me being a sourdough it would be wise to have AWD/4wd up here. After failed attempt to pick up a Tundra, I went to the subaru dealership and checked out a 2000 RS sedan and a 2000 Legacy GT LTD. Driving both I like the nimbleness of the RS, but the Legacy had a better interior, a few more features and provided a slightly better driving position for me. Not to mention it was HIGHLY discounted since it had been sitting there a while. It just all felt right to me, drivign wise, the features that were on it and the styling, it pulled me stronger than the 2000 RS. (weird I know)

I bought my second Legacy (07 LGT LTD) because it was one of the vehicles I was looking at that most closely matched my old S4 feature for feature and driving feel. I'll admit the Speed6 was a close second, but much more and a FWD biases AWD system.

In the end, I got swayed to my 2 Legacy's because of their styling, their fit and ffinish above the RS's/WRXs, its appointments and the way they drove. not to mention it is nice to have a sporting sedan spanking butt on the Auto-x course and not have to worry about popo profiling me on the way home.
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