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Old 01-23-2009, 07:37 PM   #1
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:13 PM   #2
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Thanks KC.

P.S. Got the package this afternoon. Merci!
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #3
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did i miss something? sts is now st and st2 is now sts?
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:16 PM   #4
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did i miss something? sts is now st and st2 is now sts?
Yes.

Hence: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1683689

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:13 PM   #5
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When did the brake rules change in SP. I guess I was asleep when this happened. I guess I can run at WRX brake on my car in DSP or if I ran on 17's. My 05 LGT brakes I use for the track.

15.6 BRAKES
Vehicles may only exceed the allowances of 13.6 as specified
herein.
A. Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake
booster, or brake proportioning valves may be used. This does
not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any
single, dual-circuit cylinder.
B. “Safety brakers” and units such as the “Brake Guard System”
are permitted.
C. ABS braking systems may be disabled, but not removed; brake
boosters may be removed, modified, substituted, or added.
D. Alternate brake rotors are permitted, subject to the following
restrictions:
1. Rotors must be ferrous metal except for standard parts. Aluminum
rotor hats are allowed. Rotor dimensions (diameter
and thickness) must be equal to or greater than standard
parts. Cars originally equipped with solid (non-vented) rotors
may utilize vented rotors.

2. Cross-drilled and/or slotted brake rotors may be used. Slots/
holes are permitted only in the braking area of the rotor.
Rotors featuring a drum-type parking brake in the hat area of
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the rotor may not be drilled or slotted in the parking brake
area.
E. Drum brakes may be replaced with disc brakes. Disc brake rotors
for such a conversion must be equal to or greater in diameter
than the inside diameter of the standard brake drum. Changes to
backing plates/mounting brackets/brake lines to accommodate
this change are permitted but may serve no other purpose.
Drum-to-disc brake conversions must be bolted, not welded to
the axle/control arm/upright.
F. Air ducts may be fitted to the brakes, provided that no changes
are made in the body/structure for their use. They may serve no
other purpose. Backing plates and dirt shields may be modified
or removed.
G. A functional, redundant emergency (parking) brake must be
present.
H. Brake calipers may be replaced, provided the number of pistons
is equal to or greater than the original number of pistons. Caliper
mounting brackets may be replaced to accommodate this
change, but may serve no other purpose. Alternate caliper
brackets must bolt to the original caliper bracket mounting
location(s).
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:22 AM   #6
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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About the motor mounts in SP. It no longer specifies that the amount of metal in a replacement engine mount must not be changed. Are cusco mounts legal now?
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:28 AM   #8
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About the motor mounts in SP. It no longer specifies that the amount of metal in a replacement engine mount must not be changed. Are cusco mounts legal now?
Sure does seem that way.

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J. Engine mounts may be replaced, but must attach in the factory location(s) without additional modification or changes. Engine position may not be changed. Hydraulic shock type rear engine locators, or bobble struts, may be replaced by manufacturer’s performance part or aftermarket replacement part. This part must retain factory dimensions and attachment points, including factory design. (Example: If factory locator/bobble strut is gas or hydraulic piston type, replacement part must be gas or hydraulic piston type.)
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J. Engine mounts may be replaced, but must attach in the factory location(s) without additional modification or changes. Engine position may not be changed. The amount of metal in a replacement mount may not be increased relative to the amount of metal found in a standard mount for the particular application. Solid metal mounts are specifically prohibited. Any non-metallic inserts may be used.

Hydraulic shock type rear engine locators, or bobble struts may be replaced by manufacturer’s performance part, or aftermarket replacement part. This part must retain factory dimensions and attachment points, including factory design. (Example: If factory locator/bobble strut is gas or hydraulic piston type, replacement part must be gas or hydraulic piston type. No solid mounts may be substituted.)
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Old 01-24-2009, 01:26 PM   #9
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Miatas/CRXs can run in STX now, too! Lol
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:16 PM   #10
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Miatas/CRXs can run in STX now, too! Lol
I'm actually really glad about this! Prior to this change for the 94-97 NA with the Torsen rear diff you could only go from CS to CSP with no stop over in the ST classes. Now at least I don't have to prep the wifes car as much for her to compete
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:17 PM   #11
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Yup, as long as they don't change the physical position of the motor or trans.

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About the motor mounts in SP. It no longer specifies that the amount of metal in a replacement engine mount must not be changed. Are cusco mounts legal now?
Pat, you must've been asleep at a trackday when the brake rule changed!
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:23 PM   #12
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Miatas/CRXs can run in STX now, too! Lol
That has to be an oversight - you have to have 4 seats to run in STX and STU.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:32 PM   #13
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Miatas/CRXs can run in STX now, too! Lol
Example Classifications:
All STS



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Old 01-25-2009, 01:35 AM   #14
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:19 PM   #15
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Is it true that sp no longer has the 20lb seat minimum? I see that st still has the 25lb min., but can't find the sp one? Just wanted to make sure I wasn't blind or anything before I make new seat brackets.
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Old 01-25-2009, 04:50 PM   #16
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That is true. They basically made the "safety" part of the seat rule a separate thing in the new rules that generally applies to all classes (3.3.3.B.2) and just put actual rules in the SP part of things to eliminate the problem they were trying to prevent in the first place, namely the kart seats that were clearly unsuitable for an adult.

It doesn't do a particularly good job of addressing the safety issue of mounting seats, but neither did the weight minimum, so at least this way, it doesn't detract from the class and applies safety in a more global way. Safety doesn't really belong in class rules anyway, since it applies to all classes. And the plans to make a tech standard "licensing" procedure will hopefully net a more helpful and consistent safety check on installation anyway.
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