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Old 01-24-2009, 08:19 PM   #1
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Default Helmet advice needed... (big head here)

So I was cursed with a huge dome, size 7 1/2 hat, and it's been causing me problems with helmet fit. For Christmas my gf ordered me a Pyrotect Pro Airflow in size XL (7 5/8 - 7 3/4) but it was too small, so we exchanged it for an XXL (7 7/8 - 8) but it was still too small. The problem is my heads long/narrow shape; the length from my forehead to the back of my head just doesn't fit. I have more than enough room width wise, but I literally can't get it fully on because of the tightness longways.

Anyone know of any helmets (preferably reasonably priced) with a longer fit to help a freak out?
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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So I was cursed with a huge dome, size 7 1/2 hat, and it's been causing me problems with helmet fit. For Christmas my gf ordered me a Pyrotect Pro Airflow in size XL (7 5/8 - 7 3/4) but it was too small, so we exchanged it for an XXL (7 7/8 - 8) but it was still too small. The problem is my heads long/narrow shape; the length from my forehead to the back of my head just doesn't fit. I have more than enough room width wise, but I literally can't get it fully on because of the tightness longways.

Anyone know of any helmets (preferably reasonably priced) with a longer fit to help a freak out?
Sounds like you have more of an Arai /HJC head.

Not sure who sells them around you though.
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:42 PM   #3
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While I can't tell you what will work, I can say that the different brand helmets all fit differently. It's not a difference in sizing its a difference in overall fit. You need to find a race shop that has different brands and try them all on.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:48 PM   #4
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some helmet manufacturers will offer a variety of internal padding to help custom fit a helmet to better fit your specific head shape. I have seen one that had 3 different thickness' for each of 5 zones inside the helmet. front, back, L and R sides, and the top. so you could use the thickest for the sides, the thinnest for the front and back to get the most egg shaped brain bucket padding. might be enough for your dome. ill see if i can find that helmet brand online or call the guy who i think showed me that helmet. have to wait til monday, though. he's closed on sunday.

p.s. it was a motorcycle helmet, if that makes any difference.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:46 AM   #5
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some helmet manufacturers will offer a variety of internal padding to help custom fit a helmet to better fit your specific head shape. I have seen one that had 3 different thickness' for each of 5 zones inside the helmet. front, back, L and R sides, and the top. so you could use the thickest for the sides, the thinnest for the front and back to get the most egg shaped brain bucket padding. might be enough for your dome. ill see if i can find that helmet brand online or call the guy who i think showed me that helmet. have to wait til monday, though. he's closed on sunday.

p.s. it was a motorcycle helmet, if that makes any difference.
That sounds pretty neat actually. Yea I think I'll forget the online ordering for this... I don't know of any race shops nearby that would have helmets but I do know of some motorcycle shops that probably would...
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:34 AM   #6
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Your head sounds about like mine. If you only need an M certified helmet, the HJC CL-15 XXXL mostly fits.

Bell makes a couple of BIIIIG helmets but they're serious pro-racer stuff and $$$$$

Supposedly, Arai makes helmets in several different "shapes" ranging from more circular to more oval. Sounds like you need a really oval one. It might be worth your time to talk to Arai, find out which helmet of theirs has the most oval, and order the largest size it comes in.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:47 AM   #7
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Call up teh local tracks(Englishtown, Pocono, LimeRock) to find out what shops are nearby to them.
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Your head sounds about like mine. If you only need an M certified helmet, the HJC CL-15 XXXL mostly fits.

Bell makes a couple of BIIIIG helmets but they're serious pro-racer stuff and $$$$$

Supposedly, Arai makes helmets in several different "shapes" ranging from more circular to more oval. Sounds like you need a really oval one. It might be worth your time to talk to Arai, find out which helmet of theirs has the most oval, and order the largest size it comes in.
The three shapes for Arai are for the motorcycle helmets only.

The big Bell helmets can be found in their midlevel stuff. @550 retail
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The three shapes for Arai are for the motorcycle helmets only.

The big Bell helmets can be found in their midlevel stuff. @550 retail
I just found this Arai which supposedly has an oval fit and is Snell M2005 approved. Granted it's not the "long oval" fit but the "intermediate oval" fit. Not bad for under $400 I guess...

http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/PROD/S1/vectorwhite
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Is this strictly for autox or will you be doing some HPDE. If you never plan on running an HPDE then that should be fine. If you do plan on tracking the car some organizations will not allow and M-rated helmet.
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Is this strictly for autox or will you be doing some HPDE. If you never plan on running an HPDE then that should be fine. If you do plan on tracking the car some organizations will not allow and M-rated helmet.
I will be doing several HPDE this year.
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Supposedly, Arai makes helmets in several different "shapes" ranging from more circular to more oval. Sounds like you need a really oval one. It might be worth your time to talk to Arai, find out which helmet of theirs has the most oval, and order the largest size it comes in.
Thanks for the info. Looks like Arai makes round oval, intermediate oval, and long oval which is what I most likely need. I think tomorrow I'll swing by a local motorcycle shop that stocks the Arais and try a bunch on. Hopefully I can find one that's M2005.
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Will your HPDEs allow M-cert helmets though? Many track events require SA-cert.
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Will your HPDEs allow M-cert helmets though? Many track events require SA-cert.
No, I need SA. Are you saying most of the Arais won't be SA?
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The Arais sold at a motorcycle shop definitely won't be SA.

A previous poster said the multiple-shapes only come in M, but I'd talk to Arai themselves before I believed that.
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Gotcha - I think you're right from what I can find online some Arais are M but none are SA.
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Gotcha - I think you're right from what I can find online some Arais are M but none are SA.
The SA Arais include.

GP5
GP5K
GP5W
GP-jet (open face)

They all fit the same.

<---arai dealer.
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Well call up your US distributor for Arai and get on their ass to make multiple shapes in SA-cert!
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Well call up your US distributor for Arai and get on their ass to make multiple shapes in SA-cert!

I wish they would but most helmet mfrs in the world of SA stick to one helmet shape.

HJC actually has 2 styles now. One that is similar to Arai and and a new one that is close to Bell.

Bell and Zamp are fairly similar in shape.

Stand21 will happily make a mold perfect for you for a couple thousand.
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The SA Arais include.

GP5
GP5K
GP5W
GP-jet (open face)

They all fit the same.

<---arai dealer.
Thanks for the info, the closed face options are all out of my price range though. Looking for sub-$500.
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Stand21 will happily make a mold perfect for you for a couple thousand.


I wish I made it to enough track days to justify that
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