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Old 01-25-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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Default Blue smoke and p0011 / p0021 codes

I did a search and I'm just wondering what some of you guys would do in my shoes.


I have an o2 sensor wiring issue so I have had a CEL for a while now...

On dec. 31st I had my oil changed. I was in a hurry to go party and it needed it so I went to Jiffy Lube (I know). About a week later my gf noticed a funny smell.

The next day I noticed a bit of blue smoke puff from the exhaust when I started it up. I checked some things, including the oil level, which seemed fine. I'm always checking under the car for leaks: nothing.

About a week later, at a gas station I decide to check the oil. I find it 2 quarts low! , I grab some oil and put it in. I am about 40 miles from my house at this point, and late to a meeting so after making sure the oil level is good, I check under the car and notice a ton of oil underneath.

I continue checking the level every time I stop. The next day I take it back to Jiffy Lube. They find that the drain plug was not tightened fully. Great. There are no managers there so the assistant manager does a full synthetic oil change and cleans off all the oil that leaked. He says to put some fuel system cleaner in the next tank of gas and come back if the car is still leaking or burning oil. About 3 days later, the puff of blue smoke is still happening when the car is started cold. I check the oil and it is about 1 to 1.5 quarts low.

I brought it back and the guy checked everything under the car and there were no leaks- so great, my car is burning oil. He ran the CEL codes at this time and it threw a p0011 and p0021 in addition to the p0037 02 sensor code.

Awesome, I thought I took care of that problem a year and a half ago when it threw that code and I cleaned out the AVCS lines.

I'm going to talk to the store manager on monday, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have a hard time proving the problem was caused by them.

Money IS very tight so should I:

A) take it to the dealership where I bought it.

B) take it to smart service

C) take it to pia

D) something else?
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:48 PM   #2
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A) dont take your car to jiffy lube.
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but really... take it to smart service.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:56 PM   #3
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Not 100% sure that your oil burning problems are associated with your jiffy lube loose drain plug issue.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:18 AM   #4
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I'm not sure either. I've had weird turbo noises for 2 years but the "experts" at 2 dealers and a well known subie aftermarket place listened to it and said not to worry about it until it goes completely kaput. Maybe that's my problem and the turbo is just finally going...

wrx425: Yeah lesson learned
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:07 AM   #5
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I'm not sure either. I've had weird turbo noises for 2 years but the "experts" at 2 dealers and a well known subie aftermarket place listened to it and said not to worry about it until it goes completely kaput. Maybe that's my problem and the turbo is just finally going...

wrx425: Yeah lesson learned
Yeah, that would make sense. How does the turbo look? Oily? Try taking off the downpipe and see if theres a bunch of oil in the hotside.


If your loose drain plug somehow got oil into into your exhaust manifold, I would go buy a lotto ticket.
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:41 AM   #6
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The loose drain plug causes oil loss, lack of oil toasts the rings. You top off after noticing you're 2 quarts low, and now oil is passing into the combustion chamber and being burned off - blue smoke.

Have a compression test done for sure, and also check for oil in the turbo.
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:22 PM   #7
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I'd say turbo is going kaput. Yeah, pull the downpipe and look for oil residue.
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:38 PM   #8
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Compression and leak down tests will narrow down the possibilities. Where are you located?
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:58 PM   #9
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I have had a similair situation kind of.....

I notice that every now and then, when starting up after having my car sit for 8+ hours a blue puff of blue smoke comes out. Its not an everyday thing though. Also after taking it to a place like jiffy lube, make sure that
-your oil cap is on and tight
- your oil plug is tight and not loose
-Your oil filter is secure and tight.

Best of luck getting everything resolved man.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:11 PM   #10
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The loose drain plug causes oil loss, lack of oil toasts the rings. You top off after noticing you're 2 quarts low, and now oil is passing into the combustion chamber and being burned off - blue smoke.

Have a compression test done for sure, and also check for oil in the turbo.
-that's what I'm afraid of.

I am in Greenlake but I plan to take it to PIA or Smart Service. Pia's labor rate is $18 bucks less and they seem to have much better customer service at least on the phone. On the downside I'll pay an arm and a leg for towing...
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-that's what I'm afraid of.

I am in Greenlake but I plan to take it to PIA or Smart Service. Pia's labor rate is $18 bucks less and they seem to have much better customer service at least on the phone. On the downside I'll pay an arm and a leg for towing...
Nah, don't tow it. Waste of money. If you were losing enough oil to have it blow up between greenlake and pia, you'd know it.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:08 PM   #12
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Alright its with PIA. We'll see what they figure out.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:51 AM   #13
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Hey just curious if you got this taken care of or if you have any more news?

I'm getting the p011 and p021 codes and am looking for all the information I can. Thanks.

Glenn.
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To resolve the P0011 and P0021 codes you must remove the screens on the oil feed lines to the AVCS. The passenger side is especially important because the turbo and the AVCS share the oil feed line.

A lack of oil flow through the AVCS will cause the cam timing to be off and trip all kinds of CELS and possibly in addition, poor running or idle conditions.

The removal of the screens if fairly simple, as long as you put new copper crush-washers in. - THIS IS A FACTORY SERVICE BULITIN... and also the reason why 04-07 STi's go through so many turbos. Almost all 04-07 Subi's with AVCS came with these screens.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:46 PM   #15
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It's the reason I need a new turbo I'm sure. And that bad turbo is the reason I need new cam pulleys.
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I've removed the screens, Any other advice? The timing is dead on as far as the timing belt is concerned. The screens are gone from all oil lines and I still get these dam codes!
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