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Old 01-26-2009, 07:57 PM   #1
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hello all,

i have been looking at this forum for about 3 to 4 months now just checking things out. so i decided to join today. at this moment in time i do not own a subie but i should have one in dew time. i am trying to wait so i have the cash for a good down payment.

so what it comes down to is i am trying to find as many autocross drivers out there that drive a subie. i am right now looking at getting the 09 WRX and running it in DS. i am trying to collect as much information as poissble that is why i am reading as much as i can the 09 wrx.

so if they are anyone out there with some help with the wrx's and autocross that would be great thanks everyone
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:04 PM   #2
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What are you wanting to know? You might be better off posting this in the motorsports section.

If your region has a street tire class then run T-DS and save the expensive race rubber for later. Run the car for a year in total stock form, get used to it, learn it, etc. If you feel the need, upgrade to a good set of adjustable shocks and look into a good front sway bar. FYI, you can't change the endlinks in DS.

Once you think you've gotten all you can get out of what you have, look into getting a set of v710s or A6s; the 710s will likely last longer than the A6s as the A6s are traditionaly softer.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:58 PM   #3
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FYI for prospective 09 WRX owners:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...648372&page=28

So far 17 confirmed (by post, most with VIN's) 09 WRX motor failures amongst NASIOC members. A few more "unconfirmed" (for example dealer provided pics of an unknown WRX's blown motor). I know some Forester's have spat up a motor (one guy even got so far as a third motor before trading it in) and it is my understanding that there have been some Legacy failures as well. FYI.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:03 PM   #4
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I'd suggest reading our 2009 WRX D stock thread then

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1567760
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:07 PM   #5
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O yeah, what he said.

Note I wasn't trying to discourage you from purchasing in my previous post, just FYI. You should be aware.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:22 PM   #6
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FYI, you can't change the endlinks in DS.
Yes, I believe you can change front endlinks.
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:24 PM   #7
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:35 PM   #8
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are you set on getting something that new? the 02-05 WRX's can be very competitive in STX
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:48 PM   #9
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are you set on getting something that new? the 02-05 WRX's can be very competitive in STX
plus they wont go kaboom!
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:26 AM   #10
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The 2009 wrx will do great in Dstock. If you are just getting into it, I wouldn't spend the money on a super competitive set of tires just yet. You could go with some "harder" R-comps just to get used to them, then switch to stickier tires. Or you could start in STU just so you can use cheaper tires, then switch to DS when you get comfortable.

And there are a lot of people who autox in subies. At local DC area events, sometimes 1/4 of the attendees are in subarus.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:08 PM   #11
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I'd suggest reading our 2009 WRX D stock thread then

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1567760
yea i have been watching this thread it is great reading when i am bored

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FYI for prospective 09 WRX owners:

So far 17 confirmed (by post, most with VIN's) 09 WRX motor failures amongst NASIOC members. A few more "unconfirmed" (for example dealer provided pics of an unknown WRX's blown motor). I know some Forester's have spat up a motor (one guy even got so far as a third motor before trading it in) and it is my understanding that there have been some Legacy failures as well. FYI.
i know about this one two i hope that by later on this year they will have this fixed and i do really want the new WRX for D Stock should do really good in that class

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are you set on getting something that new? the 02-05 WRX's can be very competitive in STX
i would but DS is so much cheaper.



i have been autoxing for about 1.5 years now and this will be another year once the season starts again. i own an 01 civic on some A6s which is sick to dive i just want to get out of a FSP and get into a stock class. the reason i want to go with the subaru is because i would like an AWD and turbo car and this new WRX will fit that best for a class.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:38 PM   #12
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How is buying a $25k car and running on R compounds cheaper than buying a $10k car and running on street tires? Or have I missed something here?

But I wouldn't autox a WRX again, having owned a couple of them. I'd go for an 05ish STi. Sooooooo much more fun, and you can get one of those for less than an 09 WRX.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:09 AM   #13
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How is buying a $25k car and running on R compounds cheaper than buying a $10k car and running on street tires? Or have I missed something here?

But I wouldn't autox a WRX again, having owned a couple of them. I'd go for an 05ish STi. Sooooooo much more fun, and you can get one of those for less than an 09 WRX.

yea i see your point but i am for one thing looking for a newer car then what i have and for another thing the 09 hatch will be great with the tire hauling. then you say get an older sti for one thing i do not want to by a raged out one. next the amount to be truly competitive well be about 25 to 30 for a fully prepped STI. with the WRX i can be fully prepped with spending about 4 grand and then all i have is tires to buy.

also my local area is full of STIs and they are all really close to fully prepped in STU and i do love the feel of driving on R compound tire. they are a crack pipe that i have hit and have to keep hitting

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:24 AM   #14
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How is buying a $25k car and running on R compounds cheaper than buying a $10k car and running on street tires? Or have I missed something here?
Yeah, something around 10k in prep and a whole ton of time.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:46 AM   #15
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Yeah, something around 10k in prep and a whole ton of time.
that is the truth
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:23 PM   #16
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True, that.

But if you are just starting out at AX, I still think you would have more fun with an older stock STI than with a fully prepped WRX. My 2 cents worth (flame suit on).
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:29 PM   #17
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Welcome man! you need to join our local subaru club called ASOC or arkansas subaru owners club at subark .net there are alot of guys that autox down in ltl rock that can help you.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:39 PM   #18
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Yeah, something around 10k in prep and a whole ton of time.

i do have the money in due time but i think coming up with the time will be the big problem. with working about 40 hours and week and school with all the rest of my time unless there is a race for that weekend i make time
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:09 PM   #19
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Yeah, something around 10k in prep and a whole ton of time.
Really?

I bought a 2001 2.5RS with a whole bunch of perfectly functional autox parts on it about a year ago, for about $6k. I added Dunlop Z1SS tires and replaced the clutch (after a few months). I won my class at every event, was FTPAX once, and top 4 several times. It was not "fully prepped" and didn't even have adjustable struts.

No. You do not have to spend $10k and a whole ton of time to be competitive.

I know most people on here automatically assume that everyone wants to & is capable of winning a national championship, and should therefore prep their car to the limits, but I've found that fully prepped vs. "good enough" isn't really that much difference.

But whatever. Have fun.
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True, that.

But if you are just starting out at AX, I still think you would have more fun with an older stock STI than with a fully prepped WRX. My 2 cents worth (flame suit on).

YES. I've owned and autoxed both, and I would ALWAYS choose a completely-stock STU STi over a "fully-prepped" DS WRX. 1) it's going to be faster 2) it's going to be alot more fun to drive
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No. You do not have to spend $10k and a whole ton of time to be competitive.
Then you should be thankful you compete in a soft region. The top 10 in PAX in my Region trophy at nationals.

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Define "difference".
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:43 PM   #22
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this is all great information it is just i have a hard head for one thing and do make up my mind i like to stick with it. if i was really was going to look at an older one i would most likely go with the bugeye or hawkeye wrx or an peanut eye sti.

but this is all coming from a guy that really wants a hatch with the AWD and turbo i just think that the new WRX fits me best and it is not even worth going to the new STI for the hatch and the class that i would be stuck in.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:28 PM   #23
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at this moment in time i do not own a subie but i should have one in dew time.


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also my local area is full of STIs and they are all really close to fully prepped in STU
IMHO, this is a reason why running in STU would be better. More competition = get better faster. But if you really think that you can avoid the urge to modify the car, the 09 should be good in DS.
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It depends on the "personality" of the driver. Some would rather be a big fish in a small pond, and others would rather be a Nemo in the ocean.
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IMHO, this is a reason why running in STU would be better. More competition = get better faster. But if you really think that you can avoid the urge to modify the car, the 09 should be good in DS.
thank you for under standing this. i well have no problem just prepping for D stock for i have a civic that i prepped (halfway) for FSP and i would like to spend less and have less issues with a new car. (i know about the engine problem still watching it) In my region any ways is big on PAX and i would do great with a DS PAX and a WRX. but i also plan on going to the PRO and same close nat. and compete just to see how i do and to learn alot from everyone else.

so now it is time to start geting things ready i do not have the car but i plan on having later in the year. (i know this is some early planing but that is just how i am) I am still watching the post to see if anyone is makeing any headway with koni and i would like to know how the 29mm sway goes (bigskywrx great fourm on clubwrx good reading for me) so please keep me in the loop.

i do plan on seeing how it does in nats. this year that is for sure. and i hope for my to be fully preped by early next season since i plan on geting it later this year.
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