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Old 10-31-2008, 11:47 PM   #1
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A buddy of mine will be selling his TD04 turbo along with the TMIC, My question is would i be able to do a direct bolt on to my 2000 RS, and if that is possible what would i need to buy and do to my subie? anyone that could answer my question can you please PM me or let me know on this thread. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated... Thanx

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Old 11-01-2008, 02:45 AM   #2
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i think you posted on the wrong forum. try the naturally aspirated with bolt on turbo forum. and to answer your question in short, no its not a direct bolt on. you will need alot of other parts from the wrx.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:55 AM   #3
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:39 AM   #4
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If I had a nickel for every time....
Thanks but that does not help..
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:41 AM   #5
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i think you posted on the wrong forum. try the naturally aspirated with bolt on turbo forum. and to answer your question in short, no its not a direct bolt on. you will need alot of other parts from the wrx.
I'm aware i posted on the wrong forum... I just need a solid answer the feed back I'm getting.... Not helping>>>>
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:00 AM   #6
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a solid answer is its not worth it. Your going to need a lot of extra parts and you will most likely severely cut the life of your engine. If you want to do it to see what it can do untill you drop another motor in there go for it but dont bank on longevity or power.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:21 AM   #7
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just bolt the turbo onto the search button, and you will gain about 50 knowledge power...
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:22 AM   #8
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I'm aware i posted on the wrong forum... I just need a solid answer the feed back I'm getting.... Not helping>>>>
If you want help then go to the ****ing forum that is devoted entirely to the question you're asking, you moron.

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Old 11-02-2008, 11:34 AM   #9
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:37 AM   #10
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This thread and OP fails.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:00 PM   #11
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FAIL!

Well, heres you're lovely answer.

The bare minimum you will need to turbo an N/A RS is going to cost you atleast two grand.

Bare minimum is like
Up pipe
Downpipe
Exhaust manifold
Injectors (STi 550cc yellows most likely)
STi fuel pump or greater
turbo (which you have)
intercooler (which you have)
EM, most likely Emanage ultimate (thats gonna cost you a handful right there)
You will need to notch your cradle
Stock BPV
Boost gauge
Wideband 02 with AFR gauge
Turbo waterpump
most likely heat shielding, relocating of the bell housing plugs
Gaskets+ miscellaneous harnesses for EMU.


There is a ton of things I am forgetting. I was gonna turbo my 96 L but decided to just buy a wrx.


IF you did all of the work yourself, you are looking @ around 2,000 minimum, most likely closer to 3.

If you are paying someone labor, look into getting a wrx.

IMO, your car can sell for half the price of a wrx. Just come up with the rest of the cash. With the 3 grand for the turbo and your car, you are @ about the equivalent of a cheap wrx as it is.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:09 PM   #12
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:06 PM   #13
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Just swap a turbo motor into your car. Turbo gc's are always nice.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:27 PM   #14
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Just swap a turbo motor into your car. Turbo gc's are always nice.
Yeah i just talked to a buddy of mine in Arizona that drives a GC and he told me that it is not worth the time and money to do a bolt on, So I'll prolly just go with a REX swap... I was trying to not spend so much money but it's worth the extra 3000 i was gonna save... Thanks
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:54 AM   #15
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Yeah i just talked to a buddy of mine in Arizona that drives a GC and he told me that it is not worth the time and money to do a bolt on, So I'll prolly just go with a REX swap... I was trying to not spend so much money but it's worth the extra 3000 i was gonna save... Thanks
WOW - you got a lot of hate posts. To your question, yes you can do it. For $600 I did a complete TD04, exhaust manifolds, WRX intercooler, and up and down pipes. I am running about 6 PSI and the system is maxed out. I am using the stock ECU, I have put about 30k miles on the turbo upgrade. IT IS WORTH IT!

If you can do the work yourself, you can achieve similar results.

The biggest obstacles when adding a WRX turbo to a GC are modding the cross member, modding the up-pipe, and adding a WRX water pump.

A little searching on this forum goes a long way.


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Old 11-07-2008, 10:26 AM   #16
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It is a HUGE amount of work having been there done that. I did alot more building than you plan on doing but unless you have alot of tools, wrenching experience, and time to reaseach everything then just buy a used wrx motor and swap it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:42 AM   #17
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mine ran 8.5 psi on the stock block for 2 years before a headgasket went- the easy way is to just do a swap, but if you want to be unique and give yourself a challenge, the rs-t is possible
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:11 AM   #18
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WOW - you got a lot of hate posts. To your question, yes you can do it. For $600 I did a complete TD04, exhaust manifolds, WRX intercooler, and up and down pipes. I am running about 6 PSI and the system is maxed out. I am using the stock ECU, I have put about 30k miles on the turbo upgrade. IT IS WORTH IT!

If you can do the work yourself, you can achieve similar results.

The biggest obstacles when adding a WRX turbo to a GC are modding the cross member, modding the up-pipe, and adding a WRX water pump.

A little searching on this forum goes a long way.

That looks awesome mang.. Yeah i don't even have a house to do the work... I just ran into some money issues so i guess i will have to put this project aside for now.... But yeah man i will definitely look into this TD04 bolt-on.... I just get a lot of different feed back every were that i go.. I think I'll do a good suspension set up on my car after my girl gets her car and then go for the turbo upgrade..... A subie is no good without a good suspension set up.....( The whole hate posts were a bunch of good for nothing dumb dumbs that prolly should not even be driving subies.
This whole fourum site is for people to help you, wich makes no sence when you accidently post on the wrong fourum and they get all stupid... But whatever. THANKS to all those that took the time to help me. It's you guys that make me understand what makes a Subaru a Subaru......
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:47 AM   #19
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^^^ Thanks for the complement. Just piece it together - it seems like you got a couple of parts already. It did mine in stages - First I added a WRX water pump when I replaced the timing belt. Then I notched the crossmember and welded in a support to make room for the up-pipe. That set the stage for adding the turbo stuff.
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:31 AM   #20
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WOW - you got a lot of hate posts. To your question, yes you can do it. For $600 I did a complete TD04, exhaust manifolds, WRX intercooler, and up and down pipes. I am running about 6 PSI and the system is maxed out. I am using the stock ECU, I have put about 30k miles on the turbo upgrade. IT IS WORTH IT!

If you can do the work yourself, you can achieve similar results.

The biggest obstacles when adding a WRX turbo to a GC are modding the cross member, modding the up-pipe, and adding a WRX water pump.

A little searching on this forum goes a long way.

this is a nice simple settup. How much HP do you think you've gained with the 6lbs of boost ? what emgine management are you using?I would think it would be worth it to crank up the boost a little and see if its worth it...your block should be able to hold 10 without problems as long as you are tuned correctly.

You can't go wrong for 600 bucks !
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:32 PM   #21
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...6lbs of boost ? what emgine management are you using?...
I am using the factory computer so no timing is being pulled out. I am not sure on which engine management upgrade to use but I probably will go MegaSquirt - I am just a little leary of tearing into the factory wiring. As for power, no guess but very noticeable improvement.
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I am using the factory computer so no timing is being pulled out. I am not sure on which engine management upgrade to use but I probably will go MegaSquirt - I am just a little leary of tearing into the factory wiring. As for power, no guess but very noticeable improvement.
wow no EM ?? crazzy.
do you have a knock sensor ?

I would recomend the Emanage ultimate. Its definatly the best solution you can use without going full stand alone and NOT being able to pass inspection.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:57 AM   #23
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wow no EM ?? crazzy.
do you have a knock sensor ?

I would recomend the Emanage ultimate. Its definatly the best solution you can use without going full stand alone and NOT being able to pass inspection.
The factory computer has a knock sensor and pulls timing if detonation is "heard". The factory computer will adjust AFR based on the AMS signal. The factory computer will NOT pull timing as boost increases.

Where I am at, there aren't any emissions inspections.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:49 AM   #24
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2MileHi's set up is definetly impressive, it was my intentions when I was planning my coupe turbo to model mine after his.

But with that being said, $600 is highly unlikely. In fact, this is the only time I've seen it done. Thats obviously with some talented fabrication skills.
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The factory computer has a knock sensor and pulls timing if detonation is "heard". The factory computer will adjust AFR based on the AMS signal. The factory computer will NOT pull timing as boost increases.

Where I am at, there aren't any emissions inspections.
thats definatly a dangerous way to live my friend I was refering to something like the J&E safeguard or comparable...that way at least you'll know when if your ECU ISN'T retarding timing like it needs to. or if your knocking slightly(that the stock ecu doesn't pickup) due to running lean.. Having the Stock ecu control A/F ratios probably isn't optimal iether. the narrowband O2 confuses itsself. Have you looked into a used Link+ or comparable? they can be had pretty cheap. No inspection = AWESOME


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2MileHi's set up is definetly impressive, it was my intentions when I was planning my coupe turbo to model mine after his.

But with that being said, $600 is highly unlikely. In fact, this is the only time I've seen it done. Thats obviously with some talented fabrication skills.
well if you figure all the wrx stuff can be had for pretty cheap when someone upgrades...its definatly the best way to go for a budget settup. in fact your engine managment probably costs more then the entire rest of the kit.

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