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Old 06-23-2009, 09:38 PM   #176
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yea , these are completely different kits man . note the supercharger. mine is off a AMG benz , and that one is ... well i knew one time , but it eludes me now . regardless , an easy way to tell is look at the nose cones. and the clutch set up.

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This is a awesome setup, but way different from the other pics you posted.


I cant wait to see the IC piping on your newer setup.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:47 PM   #177
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This car better make 800hp/800tq with the flattest torque curve I have ever seen
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You may have already posted this, but how do you plan on tuning this set up? Seems like it would be a complete PITA...
i really , really , hope it does make a bunch a power . all's im askin for is 650+ to the wheels , and im happy . anything extra will be gravy.
As for the tuning . Rich at dyno comp is going to tune it on ecutek . he tuned it on the last setup , which fundamentally , is very much the same . and it was phenominal . never hiccuped once . so im going to go that route for now .
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:57 PM   #178
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oh yea , i ment to mention this . as some of you may have noticed , the setup doesent leave much room in front of the motor . for fans and such . so , i put a set of perma cool fans , set up as push style , on the front of the koyo rad. leaves lotsa room for the intercooler piping along the front of the motor
* side note : the a/c is gone ... its a first for a FAT system , but i deemed it a worthy cause . it may go in after the fact , but for now , its not priority .
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:10 PM   #179
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simply amazing, great work so far. cant wait to see more progress and finally results!
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:04 PM   #180
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This is a awesome setup, but way different from the other pics you posted.
I believe that kit was designed for a DD. With the new setup, it doesn't look like their is a place for the AC Compressor... plus the goals seem to be ALOT higher!

It's going to be amazing to see this finished and dyno'd.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:27 PM   #181
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in for dyno results... i say no more than 500whp
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:31 PM   #182
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in for dyno results... i say no more than 500whp
Hes putting a GT40R Twinscroll turbo on this I believe. He'll make more than 500whp on this setup no problem with a good tune.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:52 PM   #183
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in for dyno results... i say no more than 500whp
HAhahahaha , right . ive seen 35r's on e85 make 500 wheel . on a low reading dyno no less . a 40r can easily throw down 600whp . It Better
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:54 PM   #184
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hey BigRigger , are you in Ft. Mac by anychance? thats where im at ...
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:18 PM   #185
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #186
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Dan the car is looking great i am going to stop over at FAT tomorrow cant wait to see it get back on the road.
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:32 PM   #187
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HAhahahaha , right . ive seen 35r's on e85 make 500 wheel . on a low reading dyno no less . a 40r can easily throw down 600whp . It Better
just a little friendly "no it cant" inspiration for ya!!!!1

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Old 07-01-2009, 11:36 PM   #188
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should have some pics of the manifold setup here pretty soon . the guys at fat just wanna polish the stuff before posting any pics . today or tomorrow a tthe latest .
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:10 PM   #189
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Its not about the MOST hp being made, its about the AMOUNT of HP/Torque under the curve!!!!!
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:35 AM   #190
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Amazing. Got to hand it to you for going all out here. Serious potential at hand....
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:15 PM   #191
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Alright guys i thought i would go ahead and show you guys what the intake manifolds look like now that one of them is fully polished and ready to go.




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Old 07-06-2009, 03:01 PM   #192
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thats a serious project. nice work
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:25 PM   #193
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things are going according to plan is what i ment !

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Old 07-09-2009, 08:29 AM   #194
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I seriously doubt that Ecutek will be able to handle the MAF voltages you should be seeing. I'd go AEM if I was doing this.
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:53 PM   #195
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I seriously doubt that Ecutek will be able to handle the MAF voltages you should be seeing. I'd go AEM if I was doing this.

im no computer genious , but i dont think the maf is going to trip out that bad . its still going to have only one MAF , and lots of people have made big power on em . its pressurized obviously . the thing im really worried about is being able to scale down the TPS to run the two throttle bodies . i have faith its going to be right on . rich's tuning and fat set up = sweet!

if a guy was to go to a stand alone , god forbid , which is the answer ? i mean motec would be sweet but its huge $$ . aem or hydra ?
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:57 PM   #196
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:21 PM   #197
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AEM fer sure... looks real sweet. I want one.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:09 PM   #198
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damn, can't wait to see everything painted and a road test. absolutly nasty build.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM   #199
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if a guy was to go to a stand alone , god forbid , which is the answer ? i mean motec would be sweet but its huge $$ . aem or hydra ?
On a build like that, I'd look into the autronic.
Amazing build so far. It's great to see someone really turn it up with these cars.
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:17 PM   #200
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The SC dont add much for hp, just responce. The turbos will always flow more air then the SC.
Generally, but that build uses centrifugal turbochargers, so I think they are using stock, or stock-like, turbochargers and using the superchargers to boost slightly at low RPM, and keep it from falling off as the RPM climb.

If I had built that in their place, I might have done the same thing, or, if there were enough space, and I had the money for the custom parts, I would have used the new 60* Eaton blower on the new ZR1. It outperforms most Lysholm style compressors (which is VERY impressive for not having an internal compression ratio!! ),

Just install that Eaton somewhere for the first 400-500 hp and then have two HUGE turbos to kick in above that and rocket the car with 900+hp and a bad-azz upgraded drive-train.

Imagine THAT kind of performance! A great chassis. 900-1,200 horsepower. All-Wheel-Drive. And ZERO lag from practically idle to as fast as you can spin the motor!

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just because wiseco's are a bit cheaper than the competitors pistons does NOT mean they are inferior quality to the competitors
That depends on your definition of "quality" and "competitors". For example- the "box-in-box" design from Mahle, which is a company that competes with Wiesco, is vastly superior and used by all Formula 1 teams. (or at least a VERY similar design, with the principle differences being in the quench zones) Give the Mahle box-in-box pistons the same materials as Wiesco's and they would take MUCH more abuse.

I am not a big fan of Wiescos because of the number of failures I have seen personally, which indicates their lower prices are possibly the result of reduced quality control, or perhaps sourcing the 2618 Aluminum blanks from an inferior source. It's hard to say for sure, but you DO generally get what you pay for, and they do not have the best piston design available for that general price range. Remember the nickname "Seizecos"? I would not make any definitive accusations, but there is a high probability for that nickname being given for a good reason.

So, as a result, I am deinitely not a Wiesco fan. I'm not a huge fan of J&E either, but I know some of the people who work there, and they're good people, even if I may not think they make the best pistons around. My personal favorite, at the moment, is Mahle ... however, they are far from perfect in the after-market applications as well. So, c'est la vie, non?
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