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Old 07-11-2009, 05:14 PM   #201
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:15 PM   #202
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not much to update .... wish there was .... waitin on fat to do their thing.
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:01 PM   #203
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Were in a recession, they can be that busy.

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"Lord tunderin jesus boi, the only ting that could dake dis long is da second comming of christ, the only difference is christ is supposed to show up evendually."
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:07 PM   #204
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Were in a recession, they can be that busy.

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"Lord tunderin jesus boi, the only ting that could dake dis long is da second comming of christ, the only difference is christ is supposed to show up evendually."
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:06 PM   #205
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Just thought i would update you guys with some progress..





Everything is in the process of being disassembled and being powder coated and ceramic coated.
We know the engine bay is a mess but that's all a part of fabricating and changing things around.


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Old 08-19-2009, 12:21 PM   #206
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Jeez, that looks like a mess.
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:48 PM   #207
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it is a mess....
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:52 PM   #208
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a mess? really? well im sure if you looked at a turbine engine you'd say thats a mess too huh?
i think rob and the guys at FAT are doin a wicked job of building this thing . im sure there are lots of people that agree .
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:56 PM   #209
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i agree as well... it just looks like a mess under the hood...

btw, FATcanuck... i saw something interesting on a locals car you might like...

A friend of mine went to ZZP performance and had a twin charge kit (bullseye 259) put on his saturn ion redline and twin charged it with the stock supercharger...

the car is a 2.0, making 20psi by 3k rpms... put down 380ish whp on a conservative tune...

ive come to respect twin charging a lot more after seeing this car move out... im talking instant power... really cool stuff...
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:16 PM   #210
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i saw an older talon over the weekend at e-town with a 50 trim pushing a t6 size turbo...crazy stuff....the car was spinning the tires the whole way down the track

good luck with your build, looks good so far
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:28 PM   #211
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a mess? really? well im sure if you looked at a turbine engine you'd say thats a mess too huh?
i think rob and the guys at FAT are doin a wicked job of building this thing . im sure there are lots of people that agree .
An organized mess then?
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:35 PM   #212
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it is a mess....
A mess? To me that looks to be very well planned out besides the wiring which can be easily tucked and hidden.

Have you figured out a pipe plan for the pipes that leave the blower into the ... manifolds?
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:37 PM   #213
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Here is Dan, he claims its a one off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5SesjdiiHc

26 mpg??? How

Also just curious, how much did it cost you to do this rig?
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:17 AM   #214
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im sorry , u nit pickers must be looking at the little crows nest that resides where the battery used to . Obviously the car is not finished , and what we are tryin to show u is the newly constructed hardware (the shiney metal stuff) , not the custom wiring harness that is piled up in the corner there . So please try to keep with the subject matter , i do not appreciate negative comments for the sake of being negative . by all means critique the hardware , not the unfinshed product.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:13 AM   #215
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:38 AM   #216
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i agree as well... it just looks like a mess under the hood...

btw, FATcanuck... i saw something interesting on a locals car you might like...

A friend of mine went to ZZP performance and had a twin charge kit (bullseye 259) put on his saturn ion redline and twin charged it with the stock supercharger...

the car is a 2.0, making 20psi by 3k rpms... put down 380ish whp on a conservative tune...

ive come to respect twin charging a lot more after seeing this car move out... im talking instant power... really cool stuff...
we've been preaching twin charge till we are blue in the face . the only people that seem to take to it have either drivin in one , or have seen one go . when i got into motorsports and cars in general , it was all about power under the curve , not peak whp . it is really cool stuff and its good to know there is at least one more beliver.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:52 AM   #217
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26 mpg??? How

Also just curious, how much did it cost you to do this rig?
anyone who has driven a large turbo car knows that it is fairly easy to keep the car out of boost , and therefor not use much fuel . mine was running a 35r with a large hot side , so boost was comming on (without the supercharger engaged) at about 4300rpm. pretty easy to stay inder that . also , the car was tuned on 100octane , so we were using a fairly small injector . PE 650's i believe . that in itself makes a huge difference .
on flat roads , mostly off boost , just cruising the speed limit , 26 mpg was the highest i saw . mind u it took a very concious effort , but still did it . bout as much fun as watching the grass grow.
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:22 PM   #218
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Twin charge with "Impressive" results...





BTW I love the lack of an answer to the question he just quoted.

Cost? = So much its makes it look even more like a bad idea?

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:24 PM   #219
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rest assured as far as price goes , its not for the faint of heart. we dont expect that this type of system will become common place anytime real soon . its all hand fabricated to the needs of each individual , and their power goals. so yes it is expensive . the s/c alone is probly worth 5k . ill throw a ballpark out there , a milder system would run probly $8-10k turn key . call FAT and ask because there wont be another kit like this , so it depends .
oh and as far as waste is concerned , wait for the dyno graph . there will be so much power under the curve , it will make a tsunami jelous
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:50 PM   #220
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I wish this stuff worked as well as advertised. I really do. I'd advocate it all day long over the tried and true methods. I don't agree with the power increasing theory or the tuning theory, but I'll eat my shorts if your dyno plot is as good as you say it is..
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anyone who has driven a large turbo car knows that it is fairly easy to keep the car out of boost , and therefor not use much fuel . mine was running a 35r with a large hot side , so boost was comming on (without the supercharger engaged) at about 4300rpm. pretty easy to stay inder that . also , the car was tuned on 100octane , so we were using a fairly small injector . PE 650's i believe . that in itself makes a huge difference .
on flat roads , mostly off boost , just cruising the speed limit , 26 mpg was the highest i saw . mind u it took a very concious effort , but still did it . bout as much fun as watching the grass grow.
Even a stock sti will stay off boost fairly easily though and I don't find anything NEAR 26 mpg.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:43 AM   #222
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I wish this stuff worked as well as advertised. I really do. I'd advocate it all day long over the tried and true methods. I don't agree with the power increasing theory or the tuning theory, but I'll eat my shorts if your dyno plot is as good as you say it is..
You will be eating your shorts, at 2000 rpm.

This is my old dyno sheet of my twin charged build, done on the CHEAP.



THIS BUILD will do it faster, harder and leave you bloody. He has more money to spend! Wish I did.....

Not that there is anything wrong with that.....
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:13 AM   #223
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You will be eating your shorts, at 2000 rpm.

This is my old dyno sheet of my twin charged build, done on the CHEAP.



THIS BUILD will do it faster, harder and leave you bloody. He has more money to spend! Wish I did.....

Not that there is anything wrong with that.....


wtf... does it have a 2k rpm powerband?

Is that a NA motor converted to FI?


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[quote=sburck;27858213]Even a stock sti will stay off boost fairly easily though and I don't find anything NEAR 26 mpg.[/quote

a vf39 at highway speeds will boost if you so much as sneeze on the pedal. around town if u keep it below 3000rpm maybe its not too bad . get out on the highway and try it . much harder.
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Even a stock sti will stay off boost fairly easily though and I don't find anything NEAR 26 mpg.[/quote

a vf39 at highway speeds will boost if you so much as sneeze on the pedal. around town if u keep it below 3000rpm maybe its not too bad . get out on the highway and try it . much harder.
True, on the highway it will start to come on at about 2800 if I give it gas.

Nice build though, on the version with the s/c mounted directly over the engine, is there an air water intercooler in use there? Is the air routed out of the s/c but not directly into the engine?
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