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Old 02-04-2009, 06:53 AM   #1
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Default What does it take to become a racing school instructor?

Seriously. How hard is it to get certified to teach that stuff? Is there a certain type of program that you can do or would you just have to have won a bunch of races in say, SCCA? It would be sweet if I could do this later in life. Maybe have my own place and do all different kinds of driving instruction like teen driver education, defensive driving course, sport driving course and a racing course.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:54 AM   #2
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MOST do something ELSE on the side that actually pays bills. I hope you have a day job.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:54 AM   #3
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go freediving instead and open a brothel for teh moneys
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:56 AM   #4
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MOST do something ELSE on the side that actually pays bills. I hope you have a day job.


he's contemplating spear fishing for a primary source of food.



chances are, no.

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Old 02-04-2009, 06:58 AM   #5
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I'm currently working on getting my B.S. in Criminal Justice. When I graduate next spring I will be looking at getting a job for a PD or sheriffs department. I don't know if I want to do it for the rest of my life. I want to go freediving with atmosphere
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:00 AM   #6
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he's contemplating spear fishing for a primary source of food.



chances are, no.



Hey a kids gotta eat!! I can't even get a job at jamba ****ing juice these days.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:01 AM   #7
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Oh, and yes I woke up from my slumber just to post this.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:06 AM   #8
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I'm currently working on getting my B.S. in Criminal Justice. When I graduate next spring I will be looking at getting a job for a PD or sheriffs department. I don't know if I want to do it for the rest of my life. I want to go freediving with atmosphere

a bachelors is good, however you can be doing more.


take me for example:

the day I graduated high school, I put in an application to be an Auxiliary Police Officer in my town. I was hired, no pay and you have to buy allll your own **** (i worked around 650+ hours unpaid, but it was great experience).

I wrote parking tickets for 2 summers for a means to pay my bills, and putting my foot further into the door.

I dispatched all kinds of crazy hours and went to school full time for 2 years. It sucked, but it was worth it.

I'm currently 21, working full time on the midnight shifts without a degree. When I do get my Bachelors degree, it's a 10% pay increase over, say my current step without a degree.

C/N: Start working for a Police Department NOW (if possible, even if for free).


it will be welllllll worth it if you put your time in early.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:09 AM   #9
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he's contemplating spear fishing for a primary source of food.

chances are, no.

Don't hate bish. Spearfishing is one of the most sustainable methods of fishing. Not to mention the fact that when you hook & line your chance of catching a fish is much reduce opposed to the fact when you're not giving them the option with a spear through their head. There is often times I come home with nothing but if I was really starving I could come back with 2 weeks worth of fish. I just choose to shoot fish that taste better and regulate my catch. Being mindful of the ocean and its resources is a fundemental aspect of being a good spearfisherman .
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:10 AM   #10
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There are very few jobs were you can make a living driving aggressively (most driving jobs frown on aggressive driving). Race car driver is not a realistic career unless your daddy is a billionaire and you happen to be extremely talented. The only real contenders are being a movie stunt driver or a police pursuit driving instructor.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:00 AM   #11
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It's an admirable goal. I'll give you that, but you need to be a racer 1st and foremost for teaching at high performance schools. Just look at almost any school's website and the bios of the instructors.

http://www.winterdrive.com/
http://www.team-oneil.com/
http://www.bondurant.com/

Or any from this list: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=125472

You generally need to be an accomplished racer to be hired to teach 'performance' driving. Almost any school I know has racers on the staff. Certain police driving, however, is hired from within by those that have a penchant and great knowledge for police driving tactics and high-speed persuit.

I think anyone with a clean record can teach one of those on the road, daily driving, driving schools for those that have learners permits tho.

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First, you need to be successful in some competitive or performance driving venue. Some clubs (White Mountain BMW CCA) have formal instructor development programs. Most have less clear routes where senior instructors work with newbie instructors to help them to learn how to teach.

The driving part is relatively easy, as most all perspective instructors already have a good background of racing before they decide to get into instructing. I started somewhat by chance. I won all of the time trials in showroom stock A one year. The next year, the guy who dominated that class before me became chief instructor and asked me if I was interested in instucting. I took a couple runs with instructors who had been doing it for 20 years and they set me loose. I already had been an autocross instructor, so had some clue how to prioritize what the student needed to know.

Being an instructor is FAR from glamorous. Having 3 students during a 90 degree day, hopping in/out of cars....running to get to your own car for your session....waiting a few more minutes while a student who wants a ride-along figures out how to get into a caged CRX and then how to belt up.......and then noticing after 3 laps that he's clearly ready to puke and get into the pits quickly and then he hits the kill switch on the cage as he scrambles out (actual event)....can become not-fun. You WILL be in crashes with your students. You WILL spin. You will need to be comfortable enough with this to hold it together after a 720 degree spin to see that there's an openning....point and yell "GO!". Most of this can be developed over time, but that's what it takes.

After all of this, you are rewarded with free track time.....sometimes a lunch.....and maybe a sweatshirt. Is it worth all the work? Hell, ya. Getting a brand new hot-shot newbie with his modded STi on the track, settling him down (2 sessions) teaching a bit (1 session) and him finally putting enough into practice to notice significant performance (last session) is pretty satisfying. Getting the student in the VTEC B16 equipped Accord to follow the momentum line at Lime Rock and get past that Ferrari F430 down the straight is really cool (another real event).

It's still not cheap. If you're going to do an entire season....14-20 days, set aside about $5-$10k. It can be cheaper.....but it probably won't be. If you do it in your street car, plan on trading it in at a 2-3 year interval (for a Subaru).

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Old 02-04-2009, 02:18 PM   #13
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Time to sell the yota and get an autocross vehicle.
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