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Old 02-09-2009, 05:46 AM   #1
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Default How much does it cost to go Stage 2?

Money is an issue to me; I've been saving up for the last year and want to spoil myself a little bit. I'm thinking about going stage 2 but haven't really made my mind up; it greatly depends on how much money it's going to cost. Basically I need to pay for labor, the downpipe, and the access port?

First, I'm thinking I need to find a shop to work with. What do you guys recommend? The only practical shop I can think of is Rocket Rally, for obvious reasons. I'm going to get the DP second hand, as new seems rather unnecessary and costly. As for the tune; should I need to buy a COBB APv2 for the maps? Is it cheaper to get it dyno/pro/custom tuned via another means? I'm kind of lost as to how to go about the actual "tuning" part of the modification when it comes to what to buy and how much I'm looking at spending with different options.

Another small, yet somewhat related question: Will the fact I have a modified intake (delete elbow + KN filter) and a catback have any influence in this process? Are there other mods I should look at doing?

Thanks in advance guys!
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:00 AM   #2
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Hey...well here is what i did to go stage 2 on a budget:
Just like you, I had a catback first(HKS hi-power), so I bought a used HKS downpipe for about $100 locally. so make sure that when you're shopping for a downpipe, that it will mate up to your existing cat-back.

As for Engine management I would suggest an accessportv1 for cost efficiency...lots of people here will say to do open source, but i didn't want to take the risk of tuning something myself...and at the time with school/work, there wasn't much time for me to go researching with my mind focused. And at the current price, I don't really see the value of the APv1 dropping significantly anyway...so if you do decide to go Opensource later, can always sell it at either cost price, small loss/gain.

used Version1 Accessports should be anywhere from $200-350 used.
I had to also buy a catless uppipe...

installation at my local mechanic(who knows subies very well) was $180 i believe.

If money is a factor, i would say search for the APv1 first...I grabbed that before the downpipe/uppipe and flashed to stage1...smoothened the car out and made it a bit more fun to drive...of course with stage 2...compared to stock, you'll be ...

oh as for your "modified" intake...that's ok, it's not much of a mod and doesn't affect performance at all, just makes the turbo's spooling sound a BIT more audible...wait till you go stage 2...then you'll hear the turbo scream!
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:10 AM   #3
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I'm looking to do stage 2 as well . My plan is to go uppipe , turboback , reflash and I would like to change my sparkplugs before I do anything .
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:32 PM   #4
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a used DP can be found for relatively cheap if you look hard enough.

Then the AP or whichever EM you plan on using.

A dyno tune would be the best choice, as it really pays attention to all the little things here and there.

The off the shelf maps from Cobb are decent, but they run really rich (for safety reasons) and aren't smooth at all compared to a tune.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:29 PM   #5
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The above suggestions are great.

People are always willing to buy used AP's and you would be surprised what you can get back.

I personally think giving stage1 a try for a few months is a good way to get to know what you want out of subsequent stages.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:31 PM   #6
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The free OS maps aren't very different from the basic Cobb maps and the cable can be had for around 100 USD new. You can also post logs from your car on their forum and people will give you feedbacks on the state of your tune.

RocketRally also tunes using OS, so you can get the most out of your car.

For the 2.5L WRX I would recommend going with a catted downpipe just to avoid possible boost creep.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:46 PM   #7
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The free OS maps aren't very different from the basic Cobb maps and the cable can be had for around 100 USD new. You can also post logs from your car on their forum and people will give you feedbacks on the state of your tune.

RocketRally also tunes using OS, so you can get the most out of your car.

For the 2.5L WRX I would recommend going with a catted downpipe just to avoid possible boost creep.
I have a catless downpipe and have no issues with boost creep.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:54 PM   #8
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Find a bell mouth or divorced downpipe, buy an AP v2 and call it a day.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:58 PM   #9
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Save some money and install yourself, really simple.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:00 PM   #10
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Find a bell mouth or divorced downpipe, buy an AP v2 and call it a day.
+1

Accessport Version 2 $500, used downpipe, $250

~$750
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:02 PM   #11
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Save some money and install yourself, really simple.
For sureee. Mdub, I still remember like over a year ago seeing you on the hwy . Install day?
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:45 PM   #12
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Save some money and install yourself, really simple.
Exactly what I wanted to say.
You can easily save $$ by doing the installation yourself. Very simple and straight forward.

I say DO IT!

good luck
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:48 PM   #13
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SEVEN DOLLARS!!!!!







but really install the DP yourself its easy
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:38 AM   #14
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Thanks a lot for the help guys! Yes, I was thinking I could save my by doing the DP install myself. My means of tuning is still in the works and needs some research though.

And yes, Alcoolaid, I got to Seymour mountain every week and always have my eyes peeled for you or another Suby on the highway. :P That was my first spotted too, haha.
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