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Old 04-06-2009, 01:30 PM   #126
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You guys got me looking into the 328i X, at least with one of those I won't have to worry about the damn engine going. I am just researching and test driving for now so if this issue gets figured out I might wait for the 0% 63 month deal and get a STI which is what I really wanted. Good luck, hope they correct the problem.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:03 AM   #127
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Damn.........
I haven't been on NASIOC in like 8 months, as I now own a non-Subaru vehicle currently. So I come on today to check things out, as I am once again thinking about looking at buying a WRX again (I have had 4 so far ........ ), and I see this stuff...........crap. WTF happened to Subaru? I guess I will wait and see what happens before seeing what kind of numbers I can get on an 09 WRX..........Good luck to all you guys dealing with this stuff. Never should have happened........
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:18 PM   #128
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saw an 09 used subaru with a vin of 9G800682 on autotrader... just out of curiousity i pulled the carfax (because I am already subscribed for 30 days anyways)... sure enough...

01/08/2009 Subaru Of Gwinnett-Atlanta
Duluth, GA
678-475-3500
www.subaruofgwinnett.com
ww.subaruofgwinnett
.com Washed/detailed
Long block replaced

(this is a copy/paste directly from the carfax...)

the car is located in atlanta currently at Subaru of Gwinnett/Atlanta

just thought that this was funny.

this car has currently has 1,700 miles on it.

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Old 04-07-2009, 07:02 PM   #129
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2009 wrx 6400 miles vin 501xxx build date 07/08,, replaced motor
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:20 PM   #130
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updated - moved travisma from "unconfirmed" list to main list.

43 failures plus an additional 9 "unconfirmed" failures for a total of 52.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:37 PM   #131
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wow, this makes me love my bugeye. subscribed because my neighbor is looking at getting an 09
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:05 PM   #132
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saw an 09 used subaru with a vin of 9G800682 on autotrader... just out of curiousity i pulled the carfax (because I am already subscribed for 30 days anyways)... sure enough...

01/08/2009 Subaru Of Gwinnett-Atlanta
Duluth, GA
678-475-3500
www.subaruofgwinnett.com
ww.subaruofgwinnett
.com Washed/detailed
Long block replaced

(this is a copy/paste directly from the carfax...)

the car is located in atlanta currently at Subaru of Gwinnett/Atlanta

just thought that this was funny.

this car has currently has 1,700 miles on it.


Asking 30k!!!! Internet price of 26k.....WOW what a steal. I guess with the new motor, they figure they can get new or better than new pricing.
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:33 PM   #133
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updated - added another failure (farnumrl).

44 failures plus an additional 9 "unconfirmed" failures for a total of 53.
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:51 PM   #134
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As you may recall, last week SOA said the new turbo wouldn't be here for another 2 weeks or more (car has been at the dealer for 2 1/2 wks already and the new longblock is already installed). Then I called SOA and asked them if they were familiar with Virginia's lemon laws, and that at 30 days per those laws I would file a claim for a buyback of the car.

Amazingly, I get a call today from the dealer (who has been good at keeping me in the loop) and surprise surprise, SOA suddenly found a turbo for me. It will be here and installed on Monday.

I'm betting that they pulled it of a car on a lot someplace, lol.
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:13 PM   #135
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^ I bet your right
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:25 PM   #136
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As you may recall, last week SOA said the new turbo wouldn't be here for another 2 weeks or more (car has been at the dealer for 2 1/2 wks already and the new longblock is already installed). Then I called SOA and asked them if they were familiar with Virginia's lemon laws, and that at 30 days per those laws I would file a claim for a buyback of the car.

Amazingly, I get a call today from the dealer (who has been good at keeping me in the loop) and surprise surprise, SOA suddenly found a turbo for me. It will be here and installed on Monday.

I'm betting that they pulled it of a car on a lot someplace, lol.
Yeah, except you probably should have encouraged them to take their time. Regardless of whether you ultimately decided to exercise any applicable lemon laws, you would have had that option. Now you won't... And from one owner (in the failure recovery period...lol) to another if I was given the opportunity to get my money back I would take it without hesitation. After Tuning's replacement engine failure frankly you can't even have any confidence that the problem has been resolved with the replacement engine.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:16 PM   #137
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Yeah, except you probably should have encouraged them to take their time. Regardless of whether you ultimately decided to exercise any applicable lemon laws, you would have had that option. Now you won't... And from one owner (in the failure recovery period...lol) to another if I was given the opportunity to get my money back I would take it without hesitation. After Tuning's replacement engine failure frankly you can't even have any confidence that the problem has been resolved with the replacement engine.

Lemon law applies to 30 days in a 1-year span. So when I get the car back it will be at 23 days (assuming it's Monday).

I'll drive alot of miles in the next year (20k+). If the new engine blows too, that will put me well into the lemon period. If it doesn't blow in those 20k miles...well, I will be happy and won't want to return the car anyhow.

The point though is that I don't WANT them to buy the car back. You still lose money on the deal and mods that I cannot easily remove (interior, cosmetic stuff). Plus it's a major bureaucratic hassle. I like the car and just want it back, running, as soon as possible

My major reason for mentioning lemon laws was to see if that would "convince" SOA to find a turbo faster. And they did, so it accomplished exactly what I hoped it would.

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on a side note, the dealer didn't seem surprised to hear me bring up lemon laws. The tech inferred that they would refund my money (less "use" deduction as stated in Va. law) if it came to that...didn't sound like it would be a big issue.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:54 PM   #138
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Lemon law applies to 30 days in a 1-year span. So when I get the car back it will be at 23 days (assuming it's Monday).

I'll drive alot of miles in the next year (20k+). If the new engine blows too, that will put me well into the lemon period. If it doesn't blow in those 20k miles...well, I will be happy and won't want to return the car anyhow.

The point though is that I don't WANT them to buy the car back. You still lose money on the deal and mods that I cannot easily remove (interior, cosmetic stuff). Plus it's a major bureaucratic hassle. I like the car and just want it back, running, as soon as possible

My major reason for mentioning lemon laws was to see if that would "convince" SOA to find a turbo faster. And they did, so it accomplished exactly what I hoped it would.

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on a side note, the dealer didn't seem surprised to hear me bring up lemon laws. The tech inferred that they would refund my money (less "use" deduction as stated in Va. law) if it came to that...didn't sound like it would be a big issue.
Actually for a lot of us they turned it around in a week (and in my case with no applied pressure whatsoever). Mine was towed to the dealership on a Friday evening and I picked it up on the following Friday. My understanding though was that they started and completed the procedure between Tuesday and Thursday. You better believe that if you have another engine failure they will have your car back to you within a week.

I also really want to like this car at its specific price point (still) and would love to drive this vehicle for many years. But here is my problem; Tuningislife's replacement engine failed...Maybe owners whose failures are occurring now are receiving a replacement engine that will not be problematic. I don't know. All I do know is that his replacement engine failed and mine was replaced within 2 weeks of his.

Oh, and you will be happy with the vehicle if it makes it 20001 miles before assploding?
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:48 PM   #139
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Actually for a lot of us they turned it around in a week (and in my case with no applied pressure whatsoever). Mine was towed to the dealership on a Friday evening and I picked it up on the following Friday. My understanding though was that they started and completed the procedure between Tuesday and Thursday. You better believe that if you have another engine failure they will have your car back to you within a week.

I also really want to like this car at its specific price point (still) and would love to drive this vehicle for many years. But here is my problem; Tuningislife's replacement engine failed...Maybe owners whose failures are occurring now are receiving a replacement engine that will not be problematic. I don't know. All I do know is that his replacement engine failed and mine was replaced within 2 weeks of his.

Oh, and you will be happy with the vehicle if it makes it 20001 miles before assploding?
...My point was that if the car runs correctly I will be happy, not that I hope it's ONLY good for 20k miles. I just mention 20k miles because it's about what I drive per year, and so would be within the "lemon" time frame. If it fails at 20001 miles and 366 days, well...it's still under warranty and I'll worry about it then. There are other caveats to the Va. lemon law besides the time frame...multiple failures of the same part, and other things.

As to the time frame, I blame it directly on SOA rather than the dealer. It was the SOA regional rep (who has to authorize the replacement engine) who took his sweet-ass time getting to the dealer (like 9 days). Once he approved it, the longblock showed up 2 days later and was installed. I was in contact with SOA the whole time and they did not expedite his appearance.

As to the turbo thing, I have no doubt there is a parts shortage on the turbo which is delaying them. It's not a delay just for the hell of it by Subaru just because they think it's funny to have my car in the dealer's garage. Where they got the "expedited" turbo I don't know. I don't care, as long as it's new and it works. When you got yours replaced maybe they still had spares in stock...who knows. We're all just guessing here anyhow. I like to think that if I hadn't said anything about lemon laws, I would be waiting another couple weeks for the turbo like they originally said (and like others in this thread have said). But whatever....its all argumentative anyhow.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:54 PM   #140
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updated - added another failure (nizzki).

45 failures plus an additional 9 "unconfirmed" failures for a total of 54.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:13 PM   #141
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I am looking to buy a 09 WRX and am getting a little nervy about getting one after reading about these engine failures along with the stop-sale of the 08 STI. After looking at the chart posted by Tea cups it seems that the failures are up to 09/2008. I wanted to know the following:

1) Most people with replaced engines, how has the new one held up? Are there any other issues that have arisen since?
2) I would like to know those that have a WRX with built days in 2009, have you had any issues? It seems that the failures occur average about 3k miles.

I also wonder, that with the 54 failures listed here, how many more are out there that haven't been reported. I wonder what % of this is in relation to the totally # of 09 WRXs sold.


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Old 04-11-2009, 10:37 PM   #142
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I am looking to buy a 09 WRX and am getting a little nervy about getting one after reading about these engine failures along with the stop-sale of the 08 STI. After looking at the chart posted by Tea cups it seems that the failures are up to 09/2008. I wanted to know the following:

1) Most people with replaced engines, how has the new one held up? Are there any other issues that have arisen since?
2) I would like to know those that have a WRX with built days in 2009, have you had any issues? It seems that the failures occur average about 3k miles.

I also wonder, that with the 54 failures listed here, how many more are out there that haven't been reported. I wonder what % of this is in relation to the totally # of 09 WRXs sold.


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you might be interested in fallowing this thread as well
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:32 PM   #143
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So I guess the big question reamins - Is it safe to buy a new WRX265?

I don't see anyones VIN reaching this number yet. But I would hate to make a $25K mistake. I would rather put put the money into my first gen legacy than to buy something that is going to break. Even if the engine lasts 30K miles and fails...I still don't have it paid off by then.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

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Old 04-13-2009, 09:44 PM   #144
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Failure at 3500 miles(5800 km)
VIN:800XXX
Build:07/08
They said oil contamination (with metal). Motor replaced but now i have a paint problem on the front fender!! ;-C
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updated - added another failure (LeFuret).

46 failures plus an additional 9 "unconfirmed" failures for a total of 55.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:00 PM   #146
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[quote=jj987;26313324]I am looking to buy a 09 WRX and am getting a little nervy about getting one after reading about these engine failures along with the stop-sale of the 08 STI. After looking at the chart posted by Tea cups it seems that the failures are up to 09/2008. I wanted to know the following:

1) Most people with replaced engines, how has the new one held up? Are there any other issues that have arisen since?

Took the WRX to Georgia for the Easter holiday. 1,600 total miles, the majority on interstates at 80+mph straight for 10 hours, 4 and 5 hours at a time. No problems, no weird noises,...ran great. Now have about 4,000 miles on the replacement engine. So far-so good.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:37 PM   #147
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looks like nobody has passed my 9300 mile failure mileage! woo hoo! Actually that's probably good, since it being April now there has to be plenty of people with over 9300 miles by now, especially early build dates.

was supposed to get car back today (on day 22 at the dealer now). Maybe tomorrow
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:32 PM   #148
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Hey everybody,

Does anybody know what the latest VIN numbers and build dates are for new 09s arriving at dealers now? While it looks like anything in 804xxx 9/08 are in the range, are we up to 805xxx or 806xxx yet? Are there any 01/09 or 02/09 cars out there?
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:45 PM   #149
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Hey everybody,

Does anybody know what the latest VIN numbers and build dates are for new 09s arriving at dealers now? While it looks like anything in 804xxx 9/08 are in the range, are we up to 805xxx or 806xxx yet? Are there any 01/09 or 02/09 cars out there?
Yes, I've seen one hatchback with a 1/09 build date that I've been eyeing. But I'm reluctant to make a purchase until SOA comes out with an official statement regarding this engine fiasco.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:50 PM   #150
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i have a 10/08 build date for my wrx sedan along with my friend's sedan, both vins 507xxx..so far so good. crossing fingers.
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