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Old 02-17-2013, 05:48 PM   #751
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Hands down my favorite .380 is either the Colt Mustang or Sig P238. Pretty much the same gun. Easy to shoot. Proven design. I have a good pocket holster for my Sig. It's a regular summer carry for me.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:27 AM   #752
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Man up.

Self defense guns aren't about comfortable. They're about practical and effective. A light gun that is comfortable to carry and powerful enough for the job will not be comfortable to shoot because of recoil. There is no magic sauce. The force imparted on your hand will be proportional to the force on your target. If the recoil is small, the gun is either heavy or the round lacks inertia. In some cases, the return spring is too soft creating a more violent recoil. In my ruger, the spring was so light it twisted my hand back violently with every shot because the slide was slamming into the catch in the receiver. By increasing my spring tension from 7 to 11lbs, I essentially made the slide heavier and the recoil is smoother. For the most part, Variables like that don't exist in revolvers.
You have your load and its energy being a combination of bullet weight, geometry and powder load.
Then you have your gun. Grip shape, barrel height, barrel length and overall gun weight (and technically, where the weight is). All in all though, the revolver is what it is and isn't that adjustable (when talking about recoil).
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:32 PM   #753
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Small battles...
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:28 PM   #754
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A self defense gun is of no use if you don't carry it. Certain calibers may preclude certain people from that list...a compromise in caliber may put them back on it. Personally I could care less how comfortable a defensive weapon is to shoot, its going to me much more uncomfortable on the other end. If wifey won't can't carry it, the guns a moot point anyway.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:40 PM   #755
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I carry a .38 +P S&W Airweight. Never leave home without it. It's light, comfortable to carry (especially with my really sweet pocket holster
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) and powerful enough to get the job done. The laser sight helps with nighttime targeting which is where you're the most likely to get mugged.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:27 PM   #756
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Anyone know where I can find a subcompact .380, seems like everyone is sold out and the wife needs a carry weapon
Wholesale Sports in Federal Way has a bunch of LCPs right now. $310. Best .380 out there IMO.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:52 PM   #757
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Wholesale Sports in Federal Way has a bunch of LCPs right now. $310. Best .380 out there IMO.
Wife just bought a s&w bodyguard .380 online, now we just have to wait
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:48 PM   #758
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I'm speechless.... Oregon lawmakers drop attempt to ban the sale of assault weapons and of high-capacity gun clips http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/inde...p_attempt.html
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:31 AM   #759
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That's pretty cool
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:35 AM   #760
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Glad to see it
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:14 PM   #761
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If only we could get our law makers to do the same. I got an email this morning from Rick Larsen
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Dear Mr. Acia:



Thank you for contacting me about steps we can take to prevent gun violence and make our communities safer. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.



Within the halls of Congress my colleagues and I are taking part in an important debate on the most effective manner of protecting the American people from gun violence. From the attack on Congresswoman Giffords that left six dead to the shootings in Colorado, Wisconsin, Oregon and Connecticut, it is too painfully clear that we must take meaningful action to make our communities safer. The 2008 Skagit County mass shootings that killed six brought this type of tragedy to our home. No single law can prevent the actions of a madman, but that is no excuse to not take action.



I continue to hold my position that Congress should reinstate the assault weapons ban and ban high-capacity ammunition clips above 10 rounds per clip. These military-grade weapons serve no legitimate purpose in civilian life and as such, I have cosponsored legislation that aims to remove these unnecessary weapons from our streets.



We must close the gun show and private sale loopholes and strengthen background check requirements to make sure criminals and the mentally ill are unable to purchase guns. I am proud to have joined my colleague, Rep. Caroline McCarthy of New York, in sponsoring legislation that would provide for universal background checks to any individual wishing to buy, sell, or transfer a gun. Similarly, I support legislation that strengthens our ability to track the illegal flow of guns that too often fall through the cracks. This is not a matter of tracking gun ownership for those individuals who legally have the right to possess firearms, but is about identifying illegal activity that threatens our collective safety.



Legislation on gun safety is part, but not all of the solution. Mental illness has been shown to be a factor in some of these mass shootings. Mental illnesses are often misunderstood and under-diagnosed. Health providers need to give mental health the same attention that physical health is given. Congress should direct more research into mental illness and provide more funding for effective care of mentally ill patients. The Mental Health First Act, which I am a cosponsor of, seeks to address the shortfalls that exist in mental health training.



We have not seen the last of violent crimes in our country, but if Congress and the President act, we can make our communities safer and shrink this cycle of violence.


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I find it frustrating to hear so many ignorant ideas and statements come from someone that I voted for. It goes to show just how out of touch you politicians are with the real world.

So let me get this straight. You are going to sign into law something that turns a hard working, law abiding, 12 year military vet, small business owner like me into a criminal over a material object because it HOLDS more than 10 rounds. The only mental illness in this country is the people running it. Don't you see that you are the problem? Politicians are pointing the finger at guns, high capacity magazines and "mental illness" when the problem is that YOU and your kind have put the economy and our civilization in such a condition that people are becoming desperate. What you are doing is perpetuating the problem by turning more people into criminals. You are doing NOTHING to change the environment that has caused so many people to live substandard lives. I got an idea, stop wasting my money on all this bs and do your real job. Balance a budget, help the hungry, stop the waste fraud and abuse that the government has grown accustomed to; BE PRODUCTIVE. Fighting a phony battle against a "violence" issue that doesn't exist is insulting. Since the lifting of the assault weapons ban, violent crime has gone down dramatically all over the country. Are you in a hurry to change that? The weapon you are banning is used in less than 1% of all violent crimes. What good do you really think you are doing?

STOP WASTING OUR TIME AND MONEY.

I'm all for gun show loophole closure and legislation that stops guns from getting in the hands of criminals, but 10 round magazines and scary looking guns? really? They aren't the problem.

Let me say one last thing:

If you pass legislation that turns me into a criminal, I will take my business and the jobs it provides and I will leave Washington. I am not the only one who feels this way. My business can prosper in almost any state in the country. I will not pay taxes to a state that turns regular people into criminals over material items.

Regards,
Dominic Acia
I realize my email won't do a damn thing, but I have to respond to such ignorance. I also realize he's "federal" and not state, but he needs to understand how serious I am about it. I should have worded it "if our State passes legislation"
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:23 PM   #762
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I'd like to see his response (if he gives one) after that.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:19 PM   #763
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I just had a face to face talk with Congressman Denny Heck of the 10th District of Washington State, unfortuntely I was unable to ask him about the AWB or high capacity mag ban since most of our conversation was about what we do here at TT and how the budget cuts will affect small business like ours.
He seems like a straight talker, but of course he is in his freshman year so he is out to make friends
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:54 PM   #764
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getting closer





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Old 02-24-2013, 09:19 PM   #765
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maxwell power your the MAN!!! just a little fyi
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:56 PM   #766
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:47 AM   #767
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I'm really wishing ar parts weren't so expensive. I'm very much in the market for one. I would love an Adams Arms upper.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:55 AM   #768
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That's why I knickle and dime them together ^_^
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:58 AM   #769
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Go bcm and call it good
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:13 AM   #770
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I'm speechless.... Oregon lawmakers drop attempt to ban the sale of assault weapons and of high-capacity gun clips http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/inde...p_attempt.html
Guess we spoke too soon. Check out OR HB 3200......
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:38 PM   #771
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77th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2013 Regular Session
House Bill 3200
Sponsored by Representative GREENLICK; Representatives BAILEY, BUCKLEY, DEMBROW, FREDERICK, READ,
REARDON, TOMEI, Senators BURDICK, DINGFELDER, HASS, MONNES ANDERSON, MONROE, SHIELDS,
STEINER HAYWARD
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject
to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor’s brief statement of the essential features of the
measure as introduced.
Creates crime of unlawful possession or transfer of assault weapon or large capacity magazine.
Punishes by maximum penalty of 10 years’ imprisonment, $250,000 fine, or both.
Requires current owners to dispose of or register assault weapons and large capacity magazines.
Directs Department of State Police to conduct background checks and maintain registry of assault weapons and large capacity magazines.
Declares emergency, effective on passage.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to firearms; and declaring an emergency.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. Sections 2 to 5 of this 2013 Act are added to and made a part of ORS 166.410
to 166.470.
SECTION 2. As used in sections 2 to 5 of this 2013 Act:
(1)(a) “Assault weapon” means any:
(A) Semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:
(i) A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
(ii) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
(iii) A folding or telescoping stock; or
(iv) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
(B) Semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire or rimfire rifle with a fixed
magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
(C) Semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one of more of the following:
(i) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
(ii) A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock;
(iii) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or
(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol
grip;
NOTE: Matter in boldfaced type in an amended section is new; matter [italic and bracketed] is existing law to be omitted.
New sections are in boldfaced type.
LC 3018
section 6 blows me away
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SECTION 6. This 2013 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public
peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2013 Act takes effect
on its passage.
what emergency?
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #772
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what emergency?
The emergency is the fact that they must ride the current wave of hysteria to new depths before it subsides!

The power of stupid is strong in this one. It would seem to be oozing northward from Kalifornya.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:08 PM   #773
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You think that's a fiasco? Did you see the bill some dems in Olympia tried to push. Allowed for warrantless house searches on registered gun owners. Trying to violate our fourth cause we excersize our second

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...-XEOQ.facebook

And these mofos keep getting elected!
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:09 PM   #774
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Scary huh
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:35 PM   #775
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Scary huh
Very. And its only going to get worse before it gets better. The only emergency is the state of our politicians. Could they be any more obvious about riding the popular vote.... I know thats what most do, but my hope would be when it came to stuff that mattered they wouldnt roll over for the pinko commi's wanting to turn us into a nanny state. If you dont like guns or they scare you, feel free to move. Perhaps the UK or Australia would be a better fit
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