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Old 01-29-2009, 12:15 PM   #1
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This stuff works really good! If you have light scratches on your ride that just won't come out with washing and waxing Meguiars Scratch-X is the shiznit!!
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:30 PM   #2
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3m g3 is awsome too, works really quickly, and will take out scratches that scratch x wont! but scratch x is not bad.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:22 PM   #3
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....just be aware that Scratch-X contains fillers. ....well, not actual "fillers" according to Meguiars. The oils used in the product that help provide lubrication apparently have a "filling" effect as a by-product. What does this all mean? ...what you see may not necessarily be what you get (as you might with some other products). Anyhow, I'm not knocking the product. I've used it for years and still do. ....I find it's a great for touch ups on the go and usually keep a tube in my car.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:37 PM   #4
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Does the meguiars and 3m stuff take out swirl marks or just small scratches? I need to get rid of a lot of swirl marks on my car. its a black 06, so they show really bad. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:30 AM   #5
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Does the meguiars and 3m stuff take out swirl marks or just small scratches? I need to get rid of a lot of swirl marks on my car. its a black 06, so they show really bad. Any suggestions?
just go to www.youtube.com and check out a video from a guy using a compound over a black suv, it's just awesome!! search for something like swirl marks remove...
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:31 AM   #6
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The stuff works very well on Japanese clear coats. I was suprised to find out that it was not aggressive as some of the "milder 3M professional swirl removers". It's pretty gental and almost like a polish and wax in one. Compared to many other brands I've tried as paintless dent repair person, it safely removes mild scratches and any paint transfers before i do my repairs. JMO
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:38 AM   #7
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where can you get 3m g3 then?

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Old 02-08-2009, 10:55 AM   #8
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I live in Canada, I donno where you can get it. I work in a bodyshop, so I got mine through a supplier.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 AM   #9
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I bought one to try it out and it works good but only in small/surface scratches. If you have a deep scratch it won't remove it.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:11 PM   #10
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I've used it before but like others have said, it only works for very fine scratches, rather disapointed. Anything that has the slightest bit of depth to it and it won't work.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:42 PM   #11
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if you guys have a deeper scratch, you can do it a few times and it'll get it off, or at least make it nearly invisible.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:53 PM   #12
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When you are talking about "swirl marks" are you talking about very minor scratches all over the car in a circular pattern that can only be seen at certain angles and under certain lighting conditions or swirls you might find from not buffing the car enough after a wax?

I have very light circular scratches all over mine. I notice them on every car I see in a parking lot. Everything from a 1995 metro to a 2008 BMW. I just want to know what i need to do to get rid of them and keep them away.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:50 AM   #13
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When you are talking about "swirl marks" are you talking about very minor scratches all over the car in a circular pattern that can only be seen at certain angles and under certain lighting conditions or swirls you might find from not buffing the car enough after a wax?

I have very light circular scratches all over mine. I notice them on every car I see in a parking lot. Everything from a 1995 metro to a 2008 BMW. I just want to know what i need to do to get rid of them and keep them away.
....I've learned that it really depends on who you ask. Some will say that technically "swirl marks" are caused by bad technique with a buffer causing a trail of swirls. ....others refer to the phenomena that makes scratches in the finish appear to radiate out like "cobwebs" when viewed with some light sources. As you move your point of view, the circular pattern follows the point of light. The ones you describe are likely the latter which happens over time. Obviously, using the right techniques and tools when you maintain your finish will help keep these to a minimum. .....and make a blemish free finish last longer.

I like Scratch-X and still use it for spot jobs, but its definitely not my first choice when I want to polish the entire car.
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:27 PM   #14
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....I've learned that it really depends on who you ask. Some will say that technically "swirl marks" are caused by bad technique with a buffer causing a trail of swirls. ....others refer to the phenomena that makes scratches in the finish appear to radiate out like "cobwebs" when viewed with some light sources. As you move your point of view, the circular pattern follows the point of light. The ones you describe are likely the latter which happens over time. Obviously, using the right techniques and tools when you maintain your finish will help keep these to a minimum. .....and make a blemish free finish last longer.

I like Scratch-X and still use it for spot jobs, but its definitely not my first choice when I want to polish the entire car.
What would your first choice be for polishing the entire car to prefferably get rid other the swirl marks?
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:52 PM   #15
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What would your first choice be for polishing the entire car to prefferably get rid other the swirl marks?
....since I use a buffer, my product choices will be different than those applying by hand. Currently, I use Optimum polish. I like the low dust and that I can vary the level of cut based on pad choice. Also, since Subaru paint is relatively soft, easy to correct and I maintain my vehicles on a regular basis, I seldom need anything more aggressive. ....although I still have a cabinet full of other products I have collected over the years if the situation arises.

Menzerna, Poorboys, Pinnacle, Adams & Meguiars are just a few of the other companies that produce popular polishes. btw, are you applying by hand or machine? ....what tools do you have? ...what are your expectations and level of commitment? I haven't polished a car by hand in quite a few years so I may not be too helpful in that respect.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:24 PM   #16
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....since I use a buffer, my product choices will be different than those applying by hand. Currently, I use Optimum polish. I like the low dust and that I can vary the level of cut based on pad choice. Also, since Subaru paint is relatively soft, easy to correct and I maintain my vehicles on a regular basis, I seldom need anything more aggressive. ....although I still have a cabinet full of other products I have collected over the years if the situation arises.

Menzerna, Poorboys, Pinnacle, Adams & Meguiars are just a few of the other companies that produce popular polishes. btw, are you applying by hand or machine? ....what tools do you have? ...what are your expectations and level of commitment? I haven't polished a car by hand in quite a few years so I may not be too helpful in that respect.
i do everything by hand but have been considering picking up a Porter Cable or whatever works best for polishing and waxing. i expect to get rid of the light swirl marks all over the vehicle. I have alot of time to do things the right way. what are the best sponges, mits, etc to use to wash the car and what is good to dry with? I currently use a microfiber mit that i use to wash with, and I use the absorber to dry. i want to wash it with the correct tools so it will look great after each wash after i put the time in to remove the swirl marks
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:54 PM   #17
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....since I use a buffer, my product choices will be different than those applying by hand. Currently, I use Optimum polish. I like the low dust and that I can vary the level of cut based on pad choice. Also, since Subaru paint is relatively soft, easy to correct and I maintain my vehicles on a regular basis, I seldom need anything more aggressive. ....although I still have a cabinet full of other products I have collected over the years if the situation arises.

Menzerna, Poorboys, Pinnacle, Adams & Meguiars are just a few of the other companies that produce popular polishes. btw, are you applying by hand or machine? ....what tools do you have? ...what are your expectations and level of commitment? I haven't polished a car by hand in quite a few years so I may not be too helpful in that respect.
great info. i plan on polishing and then waxing by hand soon. i have meguiars nxt paste wax that i've used in the past and plan on using this time around as well. what polish would you recommend for one who will be doing this by hand?
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:50 PM   #18
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i do everything by hand but have been considering picking up a Porter Cable or whatever works best for polishing and waxing. i expect to get rid of the light swirl marks all over the vehicle. I have alot of time to do things the right way. what are the best sponges, mits, etc to use to wash the car and what is good to dry with? I currently use a microfiber mit that i use to wash with, and I use the absorber to dry. i want to wash it with the correct tools so it will look great after each wash after i put the time in to remove the swirl marks
....there are several methods and just as many tools that work well. Personally, I use the following for washing/drying:

- Mitt: I'm currently using a sheepskin mitt I sourced from Auto Geek. I like the plush feel and the gentleness it provides. The downside is that they are not nearly as durable as their synthetic counterparts and need to be properly cared for if you expect them to last.

- Soap: I'm currently using Meguairs Gold Class. It provides decent lubrication and suds for an off-the-shelf brand.

- Buckets: I use two. One (filled with water) to rinse the wash mitt and the other (filled with soapy water) to load the mitt and wash the car. ....load, wash, rinse, repeat. I also use a Grit Guard which helps keep dirt/debris at the bottom of the bucket and out of the mitt.

- Brushes: I use an assortment of brushes for the wheels and other bits where I wouldn't want to use my wash mitt. Most notable is the EZ Detail brush (http://www.autogeek.net/ezbrush.html) that I find works wonderfully to clean the inner drums of the wheels and around the calipers. I use a boars hair brush for the out part along with smaller ones for more difficult areas. .....I have picked up a variety of different ones over the years (OXO, Mothers, Montana, no-names, etc.).

- Cleaners: I recently switched to Meguiars APC and APC + (all purpose cleaners) as my "go to" product to fulfill my cleaning needs. .....engine bay, wheels, undercarriage, etc. It has proven economical, convenient and works quite well. In fact, my wife has even started using my APC+ in the kitchen after seeing how well it cut through grease. You dilute the product to the strength neccesary for the job (4:1 being the strongest they recommend). The jury is still out but I like it so far.

- Drying: I've used many products but I really like (and currently use) MF waffle weave towels for drying. The particular ones I have right now are Cobra. They are soft, durable and wick water really well.

Anyhow, I don't want to ramble on too much but I will add that I also use inline water filters (soft and sediment), a compressor for crevices and a leaf blower at times to help with the drying process. The following is a link to an excellent article regarding the wash/drying process:

http://www.autopia.org/publish/artic...Pro/Page1.html

Hope this helps. .....btw, if your budget will allow, I would at least consider a Flex when you begin shopping around for a random orbital. It's a more powerful machine and cuts down the amount of time/effort needed for correction.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:18 PM   #19
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great info. i plan on polishing and then waxing by hand soon. i have meguiars nxt paste wax that i've used in the past and plan on using this time around as well. what polish would you recommend for one who will be doing this by hand?
....I mentioned it before, but I haven't hand polished in quite a few years. To be honest, I'm not really up to date as to which products would do well in this role. A couple of things I might point out though is the fact that not all polishes are alike. Aside from characteristics like cut/abrasiveness, there is also a matter of "fillers". To truly correct the problem, you'll need a pure polish that will actually help "cut" into the blemish leveling it out or at least smoothing the edges to diminish its appearance. I commonly see people try a product that they claim has removed their scratches only to find out they were using a one that contained fillers. There is nothing wrong with products like that and there are some that actually do a really good job at it (Zaino Z-5 being one of them). Just keep in mind though, it may look great at first but as the product wears off, the old scratches will reappear. Polishing by hand can be a chore and fillers can help hide any remaining blemishes you are not able to remove.

Meguiars may have what you need. Regardless of what the few nay-sayers from the boutique-brand bleachers may say, Meguiars has some decent products that work well and are readily available at your local auto part retailer. I would browse through their forum to get an idea of what may fit your needs. Just keep in mind that the bias goes both ways. There are a lot of close-minded robots on their site as well:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/

Autopia has an even better forum that I personally prefer to go to when seeking information about new products, tips, etc. Once you browse through enough threads/posts, you get a feel for who to trust and who is just blowing smoke out of their arse:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/

....their articles are excellent as well:

http://www.autopia.org/publish/categ...-To-Detailing/

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thanks kean! i will look into those links!
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kean, thanks alot for the response. it is exactly what i was looking for.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:20 PM   #22
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...no problem. Glad it helped.
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I'm a fan of the 3m stuff.
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