Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday August 29, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Miscellaneous > Off-Topic

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-04-2012, 04:42 PM   #2651
scaryfastskier
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7893
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Saint Louis
Vehicle:
2010 F150 & Iron883
Husky TE449 + TXC250

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurismoLou View Post
Why do you hate America and freedom?
In true American fashion I prefer air conditioning to fresh breeze. Where I live, a convertible is really only enjoyable about 10 days a year. Summer is brutally hot, winter not warm enough. It rains the rest of the time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shikataganai View Post
You've seen that the '11+ Sahara and '12+ Rubicon are available with color-matched hard tops (and fender flares, if you plan on keeping them stock), no? Makes them look much more "permanent."

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Vcq47.jpg[IMG]
I have not seen that, but I like it. A Jeep fits my needs terribly, so I don't really keep up with new models and such. I just lurk because it's a cool thread, and it could pay off to stay somewhat knowledgable in the off road segment.

Of course, I fantasize about getting some really mean looking tires and a winch for my F150 but there really is no justifiable reason to. I do 90% highway/city driving, 10% snow. Gravel roads (hauling dirt bikes) and snowy mountains (skiing) are about as tuff as I take my truck these days.

Last time I really went off roading (with my last car):


random pics from the drive to where I got stuck:



We even stumbled upon the 100 Acre Wood rally:
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

Last edited by scaryfastskier; 03-04-2012 at 04:51 PM.
scaryfastskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 05:59 PM   #2652
wallyman424
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60357
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Charleston, SC
Vehicle:
#17 NASA ST2 Z06
my wang > your wang.

Default

Once the truck is sold I'll be getting a WJ for boat towing duties They seem to have gotten pretty cheap, and are built with some pretty stout parts.
wallyman424 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 07:02 PM   #2653
Damon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2902
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Nederland TX USA
Vehicle:
89 gmc work truck
08 jeep rubicon unlimited

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
LOL... Try the OX covers they are about 1/2"-1" (in spots) of solid machined billet steel.

Just a good idea for everyone who reads in here. If you are running offroad you need to use Outerwears prefilters, they will stop 90% of water ingestion, unless your silly enough to submerge your intake without a snorkel.

Its amazing how a $10 part saves a $1000 motor.

http://www.outerwears.com/
thats cool and all, but ill be installing a snorkel now. i dont want water even remotely close to my air intake. i have officially learned my lesson.


i called the insurance company a set up a claim with them. keeping my fingers crossed they dont give me any grief and just fix the damn thing for me.
Damon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 07:04 PM   #2654
Damon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2902
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Nederland TX USA
Vehicle:
89 gmc work truck
08 jeep rubicon unlimited

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryfastskier View Post

Last time I really went off roading (with my last car):
wow.
Damon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 07:39 PM   #2655
PGT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 57283
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Loudoun
Vehicle:
2014 4.7L of TT Fury
w/ 4Matic

Default

reminds me of the second weekend I had my Wrangler. Good times....got to pull an XJ out (after crossing a creek where water was coming over the hood).



PGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #2656
PGT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 57283
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Loudoun
Vehicle:
2014 4.7L of TT Fury
w/ 4Matic

Default

my cousin's Wrangler getting stuck in a mud bog with 4" thick ice



and the infamous "slot" (Odenton, MD, near NSA/Ft Meade). Only guy to make it to the top that day did so by breaking his rig. yeah....nuts.

PGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #2657
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

Got my transfer case out today and started with my sye
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #2658
PGT
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 57283
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Loudoun
Vehicle:
2014 4.7L of TT Fury
w/ 4Matic

Default

looked at an AEV kitted Wrangler at the dealer, the MW3 and the Arctic (all four doors). The 3.5" lift and 35's are a bit redonkulous. I like the tall and narrow expedition look but dislike the big jump up into the seat. I think a white Arctic with AEV bumpers and a 1" spacer kit with 35's on AEV Pintlers would be "perfect". As much as I'd love the revised suspension, I'd like to be able to still park in the garage
PGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 11:03 AM   #2659
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
Got my transfer case out today and started with my sye
Its pretty easy install, but if you need any tips etc, just give a shout, Ive done prolly 30-40 at this point lol.

Like I will start with this tip. Since you are more than likely taking the t-case out, take the opportunity and replace the rear output seal on the trans and the front output seal from the t-case while your there.

Extra $10 and 10 minutes when your mostly dissasembled.

Tip 2 a dab of rtv will keep the oil pickup tube & screen in place while your reassembling, and wont interfere with anything.

Tip 3 loosen the front output yolk nut BEFORE you take the t-case out, and roll the chain back on just put a lil pressure on one side and turn front output yoke.

Also if you dont already know, and if you do this is for everyone else.

Any bolt you remove, put blue (or red) LocTite on before putting it back in.

Our vehicles see extreme duty, and are exposed to lots of contaminants using threadlocker seals the bolt threads and prevents galling and seizing and makes future maintenance 1000x easier.
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 11:05 AM   #2660
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PGT View Post
As much as I'd love the revised suspension, I'd like to be able to still park in the garage
I had to have custom doors installed HAHAHA...
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 11:11 AM   #2661
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon View Post
thats cool and all, but ill be installing a snorkel now. i dont want water even remotely close to my air intake. i have officially learned my lesson.
Lesson = MUD SUCKS!

There are other considerations when designing a proper snorkel.

In fact most snorkel kits do not 100% seal since they have that forward facing intake they generally have drain holes in the system somewhere to deal with rain water.

If you truly want the best design it yourself.

Install a cable driven gated switch into your intake system. And route a seperate intake into the cabin of the jeep. When you go offroad flip the switch. All is well. You can do this for about $40-50 at Lowes with plumbing parts.
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 11:55 AM   #2662
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
Its pretty easy install, but if you need any tips etc, just give a shout, Ive done prolly 30-40 at this point lol.

Like I will start with this tip. Since you are more than likely taking the t-case out, take the opportunity and replace the rear output seal on the trans and the front output seal from the t-case while your there.

Extra $10 and 10 minutes when your mostly dissasembled.
Thanks, I have to get those.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
Tip 2 a dab of rtv will keep the oil pickup tube & screen in place while your reassembling, and wont interfere with anything.
mmmmmk

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
Tip 3 loosen the front output yolk nut BEFORE you take the t-case out, and roll the chain back on just put a lil pressure on one side and turn front output yoke.
Too late
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 12:10 PM   #2663
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
Thanks, I have to get those.

mmmmmk

Too late

HAHAHA been there... pipe wrench and a long tube (8-10 feet) pvc will hold up, have a buddy stand on it.

Then you can get the torque on there enough to loosen, unless you have a big impact, 450ft/lbs gun will suffice. but you should still hold the yoke so the chain doesn't stretch out.
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 01:32 PM   #2664
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

Ok sweet, I do have a pretty kickass impact gun.
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 01:50 PM   #2665
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
Ok sweet, I do have a pretty kickass impact gun.
Cool, just remember, can not stress enough.

You have to hold the yoke, do not let the internals of the transfer case provide the resistance.

Pictures when its done!
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 08:50 PM   #2666
Damon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2902
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Nederland TX USA
Vehicle:
89 gmc work truck
08 jeep rubicon unlimited

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post

Install a cable driven gated switch into your intake system. And route a seperate intake into the cabin of the jeep. When you go offroad flip the switch. All is well. You can do this for about $40-50 at Lowes with plumbing parts.
that sounds pretty trick... do you have any writeups or diagrams or anything on that?

i honestly dont like the look of most snorkel systems.
Damon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 11:34 AM   #2667
The Phenx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 95823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2003 Imprezza Wrx
WRC BLUE

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon View Post
that sounds pretty trick... do you have any writeups or diagrams or anything on that?

i honestly dont like the look of most snorkel systems.
Nah I had made it years ago. And I refuse to go deep anymore so I never put one on my most recent rig, although this makes me wana.

Here is the basics

I took this
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/30862/10002/-1?CT=999
And made it a waterproof seal with a lil rubber gasket, gave it a helper spring for an extra tight seal.

Then took this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5-Inches-6...52ffb6&vxp=mtr

Or you can use Lowes PVC but this looks better.

And plumbed it all together with an AEM cone filter with a fender box I made.

Ran engine side to stock location.
Ran snorkel side to firewall just above the heater core. Fit shortie filter behind glovebox. (glovebox drops for easy filter changing)

Inside one is closed unless I was fording water crossings. When its open you get some really interesting sounds in the cabin lol.

There is a lot of stuff to make a Jeep truly waterproof, but this will keep you from hydrolocking unless you go deeper than the glovebox, and you can splash and play all you want.

I did this all on a yj, I assume it would be a lil different for a TJ, since they have MAF meters, etc, but shouldn't be impossible, just needs more precision with tubing sizes etc.
The Phenx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 09:14 AM   #2668
TurismoLou
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 9480
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Man of Mystery
Vehicle:
2011 Wrangler Unlim.
Anti-hybrid

Default

What does everyone think of the price on this Jeep? Seems a bit high for 5 years old, but the low mileage is nice.

http://www.dodgechryslerjeepcity.net...06423328a.htm#
TurismoLou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 09:31 AM   #2669
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

I wouldn't buy the JK with the minivan motor in it, so it's an automatic out for me.
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 09:51 AM   #2670
Joe Boxer
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 63119
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Within Binding
Vehicle:
** Memoirs of a
Serial Bachelor**

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurismoLou View Post
What does everyone think of the price on this Jeep? Seems a bit high for 5 years old, but the low mileage is nice.

http://www.dodgechryslerjeepcity.net...06423328a.htm#
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
I wouldn't buy the JK with the minivan motor in it, so it's an automatic out for me.
$19k for an '07 X model is ludicrous when you consider that you can get a 2012 Sport for $5k more. Also look into '06 TJ/LJ models where you can probably get the Rubicon trim for the same price. While the price is high, you have ECU tuning options with the 2007 to make up for the perceived lack of power... and regarding the "minivan" motor, the 4.0.L has less power and torque (190/225) than the 3.8L (202/237). The beauty of the 4.0L is that it's seemingly indestructible. The other notable weak link with the JK is the 42RLE transmission, but since the Jeep you linked is a manual... that's not in play here.

That being said... when weighing the purchase of a 2007 JK vs., say, a 2006 TJ/LJ... the only reason to take the JK is because you have some personal preference in the remodel. If that is the basis for your decision, you probably shouldn't considering a utility-type vehicle such as a Jeep. Also, that Jeep has been modified and I would go through it with a fine-tooth comb. You never know, or can trust, the work of some DIY'er... and a lot of guys work on their own vehicles, especially in the Jeep community.
Joe Boxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 09:57 AM   #2671
TurismoLou
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 9480
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Man of Mystery
Vehicle:
2011 Wrangler Unlim.
Anti-hybrid

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Boxer

$19k for an '07 X model is ludicrous when you consider that you can get a 2012 Sport for $5k more. Also look into '06 TJ/LJ models where you can probably get the Rubicon trim for the same price. While the price is high, you have ECU tuning options with the 2007 to make up for the perceived lack of power... and regarding the "minivan" motor, the 4.0.L has less power and torque (190/225) than the 3.8L (202/237). The beauty of the 4.0L is that it's seemingly indestructible. The other notable weak link with the JK is the 42RLE transmission, but since the Jeep you linked is a manual... that's not in play here.

That being said... when weighing the purchase of a 2007 JK vs., say, a 2006 TJ/LJ... the only reason to take the JK is because you have some personal preference in the remodel. If that is the basis for your decision, you probably shouldn't considering a utility-type vehicle such as a Jeep. Also, that Jeep has been modified and I would go through it with a fine-tooth comb. You never know, or can trust, the work of some DIY'er... and a lot of guys work on their own vehicles, especially in the Jeep community.
Thank. Yeah, the argument for the 4.0 never made that much sense to me either.
TurismoLou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 09:59 AM   #2672
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Boxer View Post
$19k for an '07 X model is ludicrous when you consider that you can get a 2012 Sport for $5k more. Also look into '06 TJ/LJ models where you can probably get the Rubicon trim for the same price. While the price is high, you have ECU tuning options with the 2007 to make up for the perceived lack of power... and regarding the "minivan" motor, the 4.0.L has less power and torque (190/225) than the 3.8L (202/237). The beauty of the 4.0L is that it's seemingly indestructible.

My buddies 10 JK Rubi had the waterpump explode at 11k miles. Replaced under warranty, but still, I think that motor is very very meh.
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 10:19 AM   #2673
Joe Boxer
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 63119
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Within Binding
Vehicle:
** Memoirs of a
Serial Bachelor**

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurismoLou View Post
Thank. Yeah, the argument for the 4.0 never made that much sense to me either.
If I was intrigued by an '07 X, I'd be more intrigued by an '06. The '07 was the first year for the JK, a new engine (to the platform), and myriad bugs plagued the JK for the first 18 months or so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
My buddies 10 JK Rubi had the waterpump explode at 11k miles. Replaced under warranty, but still, I think that motor is very very meh.
There are always going to be problems. No vehicle is impervious to such. Having driven the 4.0L (in a '99 TJ), the 3.8L (in numerous JK's), and the 3.6L (in the 2012)... only the 3.6L provides a significant boost in power and I really question an actual need for the additional power. Then again, I am only one man.

The 4.0L is proven, it's a fantastic engine. The 3.8L offers you a little more power, but it's not necessarily noticeable. It's an inferior engine to the 4.0L, I don't think anyone will question that, BUT... the engine isn't as bad as everyone plays it out to be. The 4.0L guys **** on it for being a V6 and smaller displacement, the 3.6L guys **** on it for having less power, truth is... it's still a decent engine and it does the job.

The weakest part of the 3.8L in the ('07-'11) JK lies with the automatic transmission (prone to overheating, especially in 4-lo), which was remedied for 2012... but it also comes with a new engine. If you comb through some of the JK forums, you'll read about all of the issues with the new engine.

Naturally, I am a biased JK owner. I didn't buy the vehicle for gratuitous power, I bought it for being capable on the rocks, dirt, mud, and snow. You'll be able to satisfy that craving with any Jeep. I'm only 6500 miles in, so there are myriad possibilities for me to change my mind, but at this moment... the general conjecture seems more exaggerative. People are more prone to document issues than contentment.
Joe Boxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 10:26 AM   #2674
Sideshowbob
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 50304
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Smalbany NY
Vehicle:
97 TJ, 04 Matrix
XR70R, 03 Gas Gas 250

Default

Agreed 100% on your sentiments, but having the clear option of being able to get a 3.6L, a 4.slow, or the 3.8L I would take either of the former before the latter.
Sideshowbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 10:30 AM   #2675
Joe Boxer
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 63119
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Within Binding
Vehicle:
** Memoirs of a
Serial Bachelor**

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshowbob View Post
Agreed 100% on your sentiments, but having the clear option of being able to get a 3.6L, a 4.slow, or the 3.8L I would take either of the former before the latter.
I don't need the power, thus my affection for the 3.8L over the 3.6L. If it turns out that I need the power, I'll look into diesel- or hemi- conversions. To topic, if the price range is $20k-ish and TurismoLou is considering a 2007 JK X... I'd push him towards finding a relatively low mileage 2006 instead. If the additional $5k is not a concern, then look at a 2012 Sport. At least with the latter, you have the luxury of a warranty.
Joe Boxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
with all the gay and straight threads [27] Off-Topic 27 05-08-2013 06:31 PM
the Official Rally/Off-Road thread? Longitude Member's Car Gallery 178 09-05-2006 05:39 PM
Why all the bestiality and dehydration threads today??? Grap Off-Topic 15 01-11-2006 03:55 PM
this site is dwindling (aka: The piss and moan thread v.2) stevedood Bay Area Impreza Club Forum -- BAIC 59 04-01-2004 12:38 AM
A lazy monday thread...A continuation of the saturday and sunday thread DoctorNick Mid West Subaru Owners Club Forum -- MWSOC 9 09-10-2002 08:17 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.