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Old 04-04-2012, 06:44 PM   #2976
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The soft tops got better with the JK's. I loathed the soft top on the TJ that my family owned.
Good info. I asked the dealer about the difference between old and new and he didn't really give me any feedback. While we became proficient at the old one, it was a PITA to do it quickly as with an approaching storm while on the road. We got drenched more than once....
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:17 PM   #2977
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depends... if i am taking them off for a few hours, i just either lay them flat on the grass or against the side of my house. i ran bestop element half doors last summer, so my doors were lined up next to my hard top in the unfinished part of my basement for 5 or 6 months. i found some cheap indoor/outdoor carpet to protect the bottoms of the doors and made sure that they were in the most unlikely place for something to fall on them. if i had a garage, i would put the hooks the walls like this:

i might build a cart like this this summer: http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.p...made-door-cart
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:50 PM   #2978
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my cherokee doors are heavy as hell, what's a jk door weigh?
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:29 AM   #2979
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Its REALLLY easy to tell if they have or haven't been offroad.. there are spots they cant clean.

Look at the bottom of all the diff's & skid plates for scratch marks, check inside the frame and on top of the trans skid plate for mud.

Also check the underside/back of engine bay hoses. They are always hot, so the mud bakes onto them, you cant get certain spots with a pressure washer to clean it up.

Look inside the air cleaner box, they usually forget to scoop the dirt outta that too.

Oh and as for the top, if you wanna quiet it down, get a sailcloth replacement they are much less noisy.

If you want I can write up a little guide on what to look for when buying a used Jeep... its pretty basic but can save your arse a lotta trouble.
Thanks a lot for the offer, but between what you just listed and the large list on Jeepforum, I think I'll be good. I really don't expect any Jeep I go to look at to be a virgin, and that's completely fine.

Since I've been looking at Jeeps, it seems like I see them all over the place. I saw a nice TJ Sport w/ no doors or top, big tires and all the goodies on the way into work this morning. I was jelly.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:56 AM   #2980
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my cherokee doors are heavy as hell, what's a jk door weigh?
If I had to guess... about half of what my tire/wheel combo weighs. So, probably 60-65 pounds.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:57 AM   #2981
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my cherokee doors are heavy as hell, what's a jk door weigh?
4 door fronts are 60lbs, rear's 40lbs.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:11 AM   #2982
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depends... if i am taking them off for a few hours, i just either lay them flat on the grass or against the side of my house. i ran bestop element half doors last summer, so my doors were lined up next to my hard top in the unfinished part of my basement for 5 or 6 months. i found some cheap indoor/outdoor carpet to protect the bottoms of the doors and made sure that they were in the most unlikely place for something to fall on them. if i had a garage, i would put the hooks the walls like this:

i might build a cart like this this summer: http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.p...made-door-cart
Why not just go to harbor freight and buy a couple of large $12 furniture dollies that are always on sale, then make the upright out of a 2X4?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:22 AM   #2983
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I tore out the rear 3rd member the other night to have the Detroit locker and solid pinion spacer installed. Should be done Tuesday at the latest.

This was surprisingly easy to do by myself. I had both axles out and the 3rd member packed up in just over 3 hours even with taking several breaks and also helping my neighbor move a couch.








Here's a shot of the ARB bumper me and Damon installed a few days ago. I love the way it looks.


Tonight I removed the front diff so I can install the Spartan locker tomorrow, get it back in and replace the ps pump and box before our trip to Hidden Falls next weekend.

This was a tad bit harder to do since the inner CVs are bolted to the diff with studs so it took some wiggling and prying to get it out.


And here is the mess that the PS pump is causing on the passengers side. The drivers side isn't as bad since the box doesn't have anything below it so it mostly drops straight to the ground.


And here is my daughter making sure I have all the refreshments I needed and also passing me tools every now and then. She was FILTHY when we finally finished up, definitely not afraid to get dirty.


After I get it back on the road the sliders are being welded on by a guy from a local 4WD forum!

Can't wait for next weekend.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:55 AM   #2984
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im glad ivy knows safety first! (safety glasses)
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #2985
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Cool 4Runner, I still miss my 1990, and that's awesome on the helper!


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4 Link 8.8 rear and HPD30 front axle are in.

To Do list-
  • Recenter rear again, off a 1/4 inch or so right now.
  • Continue to adjust pinion angle (lengthen uppers- pending Savvy Tank Skid Install)
  • Wire Rear Locker up fully
  • Install Muffler from Spintech
  • Alignment once I am happy the front axle is centered
  • After diff break in put on front HPD30 cover I have


Longer Term Left to do on project roughly in order-
  • 35's
  • Front Fender Solution (Metal cloaks or something)
  • Steering upgrade
Loaded full of parts & Ready to go install 4-Link-




Out with the 3.07's and D35

These things are so much easier then you have a torch...




Arms-


Prepaint and final welding mock up-


Front in-


Skids all ready to go back in... (leaving GTS bling blang for now)-




Gotta get skids back on later tonight, get rear pinion and side to side adjusted again, and get her back down. Then bumpstops and exhaust for now. Looks like the OME shocks don't really impact up travel for now which is cool (the truss almost hits the cross member right when they fully compress).
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:01 PM   #2986
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that looks like a lot of fun work.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:02 PM   #2987
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Yeah, having some help from someone who really knows his **** was great.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:19 PM   #2988
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I tore out the rear 3rd member the other night to have the Detroit locker and solid pinion spacer installed. Should be done Tuesday at the latest.
You scratch the idea of ARB air lockers?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:28 PM   #2989
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You scratch the idea of ARB air lockers?
For now I have, I wanted to see how this combination does first since I'll spend roughly the same amount installing these two(Detroit/Spartan) as I would have buying just 1 ARB locker. If they make too much noise and just aren't very street friendly then I'll take them out and go with ARBs.

After my last trip to Hidden Falls I realized how badly I need lockers especially since my front tires come off the ground so easily because of the limited travel of the IFS. I didn't want to make another trip without lockers!
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:58 PM   #2990
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$4500 off a loaded Sahara a fair price?
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:07 PM   #2991
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whats the installed options? whats the asking price before the $4500?
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:28 PM   #2992
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Dual top, leather, auto, NAV/media. $38k MSRp. Offered price is $33400 before TTT
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:31 PM   #2993
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Dual top, leather, auto, NAV/media. $38k MSRp. Offered price is $33400 before TTT
Unlimited?
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:35 PM   #2994
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yeah.

$33k and change for the Sahara or $39k for a Rubi COD MW3, both four doors. <scratches chin>

AEV bumpers and hood will run $4k easy, making it a $2k difference (only $1K if I add Katzkin leather to the MW3). I like the color-matched hardtop and fenders and the leather of the Sahara but the 4.10 gears of the MW3. Suspension and wheels will get swapped on either to AEV so draw there...
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:37 PM   #2995
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i say just do it!

then i can finish scratching up the passenger side of my raptor as i plow my own trails in the "mountains" (hills) around here. You can either lead or follow.

PS i take sweet jumps!
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:44 PM   #2996
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yeah.

$33k and change for the Sahara or $39k for a Rubi COD MW3, both four doors. <scratches chin>

AEV bumpers and hood will run $4k easy, making it a $2k difference (only $1K if I add Katzkin leather to the MW3). I like the color-matched hardtop and fenders and the leather of the Sahara but the 4.10 gears of the MW3. Suspension and wheels will get swapped on either to AEV so draw there...
Well, in my area I usually see the 2 door models go for that price, so it looks like a good deal to me. I think if you're swapping out the suspension skip the Rubicon. I can't see spending $40000 for a Wrangler either, there's just something very wrong about that to me.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:33 PM   #2997
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I can't see spending $40000 for a Wrangler either, there's just something very wrong about that to me.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:41 AM   #2998
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For now I have, I wanted to see how this combination does first since I'll spend roughly the same amount installing these two(Detroit/Spartan) as I would have buying just 1 ARB locker. If they make too much noise and just aren't very street friendly then I'll take them out and go with ARBs.

After my last trip to Hidden Falls I realized how badly I need lockers especially since my front tires come off the ground so easily because of the limited travel of the IFS. I didn't want to make another trip without lockers!
BOOOM clicky clicky clicky

If its not your DD you can prolly live with it. They make themselves the most noticeable in parking lots and other slow areas.

Its really funny when the people walking near you when the Detroit pops duck and run for cover or stare at you like something just tried to kill them from your truck.
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BOOOM clicky clicky clicky

If its not your DD you can prolly live with it. They make themselves the most noticeable in parking lots and other slow areas.

Its really funny when the people walking near you when the Detroit pops duck and run for cover or stare at you like something just tried to kill them from your truck.


I do drive it a lot but my 52 mile round trip commute is 90% highway. Sure as hell hope it isn't that bad since I'm not going to be too eager to rip all this **** back out again.
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Anyone know the jeep event that was going on out in Co over the past few days? Saw several packs of dozens of modded jeeps and countless numbers on trailers.
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