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Old 04-08-2012, 11:23 AM   #3001
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Anyone know the jeep event that was going on out in Co over the past few days? Saw several packs of dozens of modded jeeps and countless numbers on trailers.
Maybe the Moab Jeep gathering, same one that saw the factory customs like that FC concept? (I know, not in CO, but close.)
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:59 AM   #3002
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Maybe the Moab Jeep gathering, same one that saw the factory customs like that FC concept? (I know, not in CO, but close.)
This most likely. They were probably on their way to Moab for the easter jeep safari.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:26 PM   #3003
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Maybe the Moab Jeep gathering, same one that saw the factory customs like that FC concept? (I know, not in CO, but close.)
Thanks, seems that's likely what it was. I saw them all on 80W so that's most likely it. Was hoping if it was more local I could attend whatever event it was today.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:23 PM   #3004
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yeah.

$33k and change for the Sahara or $39k for a Rubi COD MW3, both four doors. <scratches chin>

AEV bumpers and hood will run $4k easy, making it a $2k difference (only $1K if I add Katzkin leather to the MW3). I like the color-matched hardtop and fenders and the leather of the Sahara but the 4.10 gears of the MW3. Suspension and wheels will get swapped on either to AEV so draw there...
my decision in this situation would come down to...

a) do you want lockers?
b) do you want a dana 44 front?
c) do you plan on yanking out the axles anyway and doing some tough as **** axles?
d) do you really care about what gears it comes with?
e) do you like cheese?


i half way wish i would have gotten a sport or x model or something so i could go with some air lockers and get a prorock 44 for the front, but then again having the rubicon with all its goodies out of the box is pretty nice. its all what you plan on doing with it though. i initially though my wrangler was going to be just a little trail riding rig, but that has completely changed.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:22 PM   #3005
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a) might be good on teh beach, where this would see its offroad use the most
b) indifferent
c) no
d) yes, 4400lbs and 3.21's are barely adequate. Having a little help would be nice, around town. Offroad, it helps too but this isn't going to be used that way 95% of the time
e)

I've been pretty clear that I don't have any pretense of this being a trail rig. It will be a daily driver but I want capability when I do use it for how it was intended. This has me teetering on the cost/benefit of a loaded Wrangler vs. a mid-tier GC. It will do everything I want to do offroad yet will be more capable on-road. Still, I've always liked the look of the Wrangler better. Apples and oranges, yes.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:29 PM   #3006
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get a raptor, and put jeep badges on it.

no one will know...
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:34 PM   #3007
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This has me teetering on the cost/benefit of a loaded Wrangler vs. a mid-tier GC. It will do everything I want to do offroad yet will be more capable on-road. Still, I've always liked the look of the Wrangler better. Apples and oranges, yes.
If you can consider not getting a Wrangler, you probably shouldn't get one, IMO. Have you test driven one for any length of time to experience wind noise, etc.?
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:36 PM   #3008
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yes, spent some time at 60mph in a hardtop yesterday. It wasn't quiet. I had an '02 TJ and an '01 XJ; I know what I'm looking at.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:39 PM   #3009
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Ah, got it. I was assuming you were coming straight from that E Class with nothing else to compare it to.
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:13 PM   #3010
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Ah, got it. I was assuming you were coming straight from that E Class with nothing else to compare it to.
Oh, no. We'll be trading an FX35 in on it and keeping the MB.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:10 AM   #3011
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d) yes, 4400lbs and 3.21's are barely adequate. Having a little help would be nice, around town. Offroad, it helps too but this isn't going to be used that way 95% of the time
a regear to whatever you want can be done for 500 bucks or so, depending of course what brand gears you go with and what whomever charges you to do it.

then again, i dunno if i would be wanting to regear a jeep right off the dealer lot with a warranty now that i think about it.



and to be honest, i dont really think you need to worry so much about having lockers on the beach, unless you think you will be getting into some srsly nasty quicksand or something.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:21 AM   #3012
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a regear to whatever you want can be done for 500 bucks or so, depending of course what brand gears you go with and what whomever charges you to do it.

then again, i dunno if i would be wanting to regear a jeep right off the dealer lot with a warranty now that i think about it.

and to be honest, i dont really think you need to worry so much about having lockers on the beach, unless you think you will be getting into some srsly nasty quicksand or something.
Not to mention, the option for the 3.73 gearing is only $50 extra and is perfectly fine with the new powerplant. Hell, as long as you're not putting 35s on, 3.21 with the new powerplant drives perfectly fine.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:44 AM   #3013
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Check out this color of Monstaliner


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Old 04-09-2012, 10:46 AM   #3014
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Check out this color of Monstaliner
That's, um, quite fabulously flamboyant.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:59 AM   #3015
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Yeah, there are some good ones too...



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Old 04-09-2012, 11:10 AM   #3016
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Spent some more quality time under the Jeep yesterday... my wife is ready to cut my throat but the Jeep is coming along nicely.

Got Locker wired up and tested. Need to find final home in dash for switch and tidy up interior wiring, esp the switched power which is totally ghetto rigged for now. I also may try to find a way to disable the locker switch for peace of mind when others are driving it. Gonna use an add-a-fuse for the switched power I guess....

Re-centered both axles, appear to be much much closer now. Worked out a pretty good technique for the rear too. Got the rear pinion angle up a bit too, much smoother on test drive. Can come up a little further but it's fine for now. Did it all with the uppers so the axle is probably one inch further back total now

Exhaust is still ever so gently sometimes touching the engine skid. We will have to see what happens once the muffler is out back providing some counter weight to the header (it was fine before we pulled the whole rear of the exhaust off, once we did the header doesn't have much holding it up).

Flexed it out as much as I could without bump stops yesterday, it flexes awesome.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:29 AM   #3017
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a regear to whatever you want can be done for 500 bucks or so, depending of course what brand gears you go with and what whomever charges you to do it.
$200 for parts, and I will set gears all day long for $300 a pop lol.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:36 PM   #3018
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Check out this color of Monstaliner


how in the fiving hell can anyone stand to drive that thing? not talking about the crazy level of ugly, but the brightness of it while trying to drive.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:21 PM   #3019
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how in the fiving hell can anyone stand to drive that thing? not talking about the crazy level of ugly, but the brightness of it while trying to drive.
HAHAHA.. we picked up a very highly modded cj-5 years ago.. it was barbie jeep pink when it arrived (only for about 1 day after that).


Oh and seat brackets have been welded... stand by for the pictures of the swanky new pilots char.

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Old 04-09-2012, 06:37 PM   #3020
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That pink is awesome

The lighter blue is almost the color my Wrangler was. I think it was called Spinnaker Blue or something. Very manly. Looked sort of like a lighter, VERY sparkly, version of the Arctic blue ones I've seen around.

This looks close:
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:49 AM   #3021
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I need some advice with my 05 WK. The transmission goes into limp mode and won't shift out of third gear unless. However, if I turn the car off and restart it all is fine. It doesn't happen all the time. The CEL comes and goes. It is throwing a "Input Speed Sensor No Signal" code. I took it to the dealership on Monday. They told me it is also storing a PCM malfunction code and that the PCM needs to be replaced and reprogrammed. They quoted me $825. He said once he gets that replaced he can see if there is anything else wrong with the tranny.

Anyone have any advise? If it weren't for the need to reprogram the PCM, I would do it myself. The car is 7 years old and I will be looking to replace soon. I don't want to dump a ton of money into it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:36 AM   #3022
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That's pretty darn specific, try posting here?-

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/
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Exhaust is still ever so gently sometimes touching the engine skid. We will have to see what happens once the muffler is out back providing some counter weight to the header (it was fine before we pulled the whole rear of the exhaust off, once we did the header doesn't have much holding it up).
No flexy pics?

I have always had to mod out the exhausts on every Jeep I have ever owned. I usually take out the torch and heat and bend the braket that attaches to the transmission, for some reason jeep just builds them low.

Brackets done... one seat in.

Wait till you see what I am doing with my spare... <joy>
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No flexy pics?
Getting there, want to get Bump stops in and do a few things first.

re: exhaust- Yeah, we shall see once my muffler is in, but with the UCF UHC skid the cat doesn't have a ton of room in either direction to bend/move.
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Getting there, want to get Bump stops in and do a few things first.

re: exhaust- Yeah, we shall see once my muffler is in, but with the UCF UHC skid the cat doesn't have a ton of room in either direction to bend/move.
You may have to make your own mounts then. There is really no need for there to be a soft mount until post cat, becuase until that point everything follows the drivetrain, and doesn't need to move independently.

They do, I assume, have soft mounts at the trans to help isolate some of the heat transfer from the cat, I guess... maybe... lol
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