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Old 04-10-2012, 10:00 AM   #3026
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So what you are saying is a hard mount up near the skid would be fine?

I could almost definitely make this beast work...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-610226/
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:30 AM   #3027
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Thinking about pulling the trigger on this for a personal project. Its just a roller but I have a complete TDi drivetrain lined up. Hmmm....

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Old 04-10-2012, 10:37 AM   #3028
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So what you are saying is a hard mount up near the skid would be fine?

I could almost definitely make this beast work...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-610226/
Heh thats exactly what I used.

As for if its ok... follow this logic.

Subaru wrx.. up pipe, headers turbo, all mounted to engine, downpipe has a bracket that is attached to the trans... THEN... it goes to a wiggle flange and then soft mounts for the midpipe/tailpipe.

Jeep, attaches at the headers... and nothing until the trans mount for the cat, which is a soft mount, which allows the exhaust to wiggle and bang around, instead of moving with the motor trans. And then is also on soft mounts all the way to the tailpipe.

I see no logical reason why you cant do a hard mount at the trans, weld in a wiggle joint post cat, ( Something like this http://www.metexcorp.com/exhaust_decoupler.htm ) and then be on soft mounts to the finish.

Since the motor/trans are all 1 unit, and the exhaust should move with them, not independantly. This is why all the old yj headers used to crack at the collector joints. (and some tj's if I remember right)

I think Subaru nailed this one in design, and can't see a reason not to imitate them.

My $.02

Course I hope you have a welder lol.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:53 AM   #3029
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No welder
I can get help as needed with one, but if I can I will avoid it.

I was thinking I can make it work though.

As far as your logic is concerned- I appreciate the thoughts. My exhaust, if I don't attach one of the mounts I posted up, will have zero mounts except the tranny mount and where it bolts to the headers. My muffler will hang right off the cat with a downturn behind it. I was thinking attach the summit universal mount near the second header turn to keep it from sliding down and rattling the engine skid, which would also aim the end of the Cat/muffler down a bit helping to keep it off the heat shield.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:01 AM   #3030
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No welder
I can get help as needed with one, but if I can I will avoid it.

I was thinking I can make it work though.

As far as your logic is concerned- I appreciate the thoughts. My exhaust, if I don't attach one of the mounts I posted up, will have zero mounts except the tranny mount and where it bolts to the headers. My muffler will hang right off the cat with a downturn behind it. I was thinking attach the summit universal mount near the second header turn to keep it from sliding down and rattling the engine skid, which would also aim the end of the Cat/muffler down a bit helping to keep it off the heat shield.
Seems pretty logical to me.

There really is only two concerns with exhaust.

1 heat keep it away from sensitive stuff, and 2 mounting... solid/soft. Solid to transfer case, soft after.

Well and making sure it exits the vehicle past the passenger compartment.

So anything that works within those realms, shouldn't adversely effect you at all.

And using that mount in that way.. totally fine.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:16 AM   #3031
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Yeah, it will be behind the edge of the rear seats (that I never use) where it exits.

Wish I could measure it right now and order.... I'll have to mock it up when I get home.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:57 AM   #3032
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Another daaaaaaayyy...

Got the locker wiring slightly better last night including switch into the dash, installed bumpstops, measured some stuff for my exhaust fix, and took off the wheel spacers I didn't need to use. Also took off a heat shield that was doing nothing
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:59 AM   #3033
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Another daaaaaaayyy...

Got the locker wiring slightly better last night including switch into the dash, installed bumpstops, measured some stuff for my exhaust fix, and took off the wheel spacers I didn't need to use. Also took off a heat shield that was doing nothing
Do you ever do anything besides working on your Jeep?
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:08 AM   #3034
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Yeah, work at work, eat, workout, & sleep. Wife is seriously ready to kill me, but I just want it back into flawless daily driver condition. I am so close.

-Install muffler later
-ghetto align
-exhaust fix (can wait)
-drive/wheel!
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:47 AM   #3035
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Dood, I feel your pain. I was working on mine since August! This involved removing the swaybars and trackbars, cutting all the perches and brackets off the front axle, welding anti wrap perches on the front for a spring-over, rigging an over-the-top steering setup, ditching the rotting bellypan and welding a cross-brace, rebuilding the 4.5 stroker, lift springs in the rear, big shackles and welding cross-braces, redoing half the wiring, lengthening the front driveshaft, new rear driveshaft, rebuilding the t-case and doing a slip yoke eliminator, replacing the bumperettes with square stock...

And a crapload of other stuff.


It never ends.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #3036
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #3037
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Dood, I feel your pain. I was working on mine since August! This involved removing the swaybars and trackbars, cutting all the perches and brackets off the front axle, welding anti wrap perches on the front for a spring-over, rigging an over-the-top steering setup, ditching the rotting bellypan and welding a cross-brace, rebuilding the 4.5 stroker, lift springs in the rear, big shackles and welding cross-braces, redoing half the wiring, lengthening the front driveshaft, new rear driveshaft, rebuilding the t-case and doing a slip yoke eliminator, replacing the bumperettes with square stock...

And a crapload of other stuff.


It never ends.
Springover heads up.. the antiwrap perches SUCK with stock springs.

When they go negative arch under heavy articulation its bleh, kills the spring in a couple months. Your much better off running stock perches with a shackled ladder bar.

By far the best thing I ever did with my springover was buy the RE springover springs.

http://www.rubiconexpress.com/JeepPa...LF&part=RE1444
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:17 AM   #3038
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Thinking about pulling the trigger on this for a personal project. Its just a roller but I have a complete TDi drivetrain lined up. Hmmm....




Hurry up and get rid of the Benz!

The website says no title, would you be able to get one after buying it? And have you contacted them about a price?
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:23 AM   #3039
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Just finished refurbishing my Aisin hubs.



The good thing about working in a refinery is I have access to some pretty strong caustic soap that easily removed the filth that covered them. A quick scrub with a wire brush and they were ready for paint. New ball and spring, new o-ring on the dial, new gaskets and some fresh grease and they're ready to bolt on tomorrow.

All that's left to do is install the front and rear 3rd members, bolt these in place of my automatic hubs, and I'll be ready for the weekend trip.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #3040
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im already ready for the weekend trip. neener neener.

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Old 04-12-2012, 06:39 PM   #3041
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that thing is a freaking beast. portals win.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:52 PM   #3042
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im already ready for the weekend trip. neener neener.

I'm glad one of us is.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:25 PM   #3043
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which Wrangler forum is best? JK-Forum or another? I've been reading a lot but want to join one to post a few Q's specific to the '12 we're going to buy.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:25 PM   #3044
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I mostly post on jeep forum.

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Hate u










Best poser shot I could get before dark/rain, front isn't on the bumpstops.

Easily fits 35"s in rear.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:34 PM   #3045
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how in the fiving hell can anyone stand to drive that thing? not talking about the crazy level of ugly, but the brightness of it while trying to drive.
Wait until you cross paths with this Jeep touring company.


Probably a marketing thing for a pink color. It's so repulsive that you remember it.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:34 PM   #3046
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Everytime I see this pic, I have the urge to buy a FJ Cruiser.

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Old 04-12-2012, 08:55 PM   #3047
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Wait until you cross paths with this Jeep touring company.


Probably a marketing thing for a pink color. It's so repulsive that you remember it.
The only way I'd get in that is if I was with 3 hot half-naked women.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:14 PM   #3048
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Is that safe to tow? Seems like you would be over the rating...
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:32 PM   #3049
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What's that Jeep + trailer weigh, almost 5,000lbs before gear?
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:38 PM   #3050
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Teamjordan- any more info on that FJ? Wow

Also, I need new tires. What do you guys think of Goodyear Duratracs for a stock 04 Cherokee? I won't do much off road- but, there will be occasional light use.
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