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Old 10-31-2011, 06:25 PM   #1501
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:14 PM   #1502
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:54 PM   #1503
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Oh nice.

I'm going to go to Carmax first and go from there.
I've thought about going this route...maybe they won't Carfax the car.

When I sold my Brocoma to them, they had a check ready to hand over in about 20 min after a quick drive around the parking lot.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:55 PM   #1504
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I've thought about going this route...maybe they won't Carfax the car.

When I sold my Brocoma to them, they had a check ready to hand over in about 20 min after a quick drive around the parking lot.
How badly did they lowball you?
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:06 PM   #1505
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How badly did they lowball you?
They paid a bit more than KBB said.

I paid the truck off and still had about $800 left over. all in all, I very happy.

I didn't even wash it or anything...it was filthy inside and out. It was an '01 with like 90k mikes on it, but was a TRD V6 4-wheel drive.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:08 PM   #1506
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Overpriced unless it's a Savvy or other top quality lift and everything is 100% perfect, even then it's worth like $20 maybe $21 IMO.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:12 PM   #1507
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I know it's a Rubicon, but for that price you can get a brand new Unlimited Sport for only $3000 more.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:14 PM   #1508
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They paid a bit more than KBB said.

I paid the truck off and still had about $800 left over. all in all, I very happy.

I didn't even wash it or anything...it was filthy inside and out. It was an '01 with like 90k mikes on it, but was a TRD V6 4-wheel drive.
If I get more than what KBB is telling me I will be so beyond happy.

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Overpriced unless it's a Savvy or other top quality lift and everything is 100% perfect, even then it's worth like $20 maybe $21 IMO.
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I know it's a Rubicon, but for that price you can get a brand new Unlimited Sport for only $3000 more.
Good to know, thanks guys.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:29 PM   #1509
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:30 PM   #1510
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this should be a fun thread to start posting the stupid things i end up doing
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:38 PM   #1511
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As nice as all those JK's are they have a less proven drivetrain (albeit really nice) and no lockers. To get anywhere near the off-road capability of that LJ Rubi you are talking $5k+ in mods. On the other hand the JK is much more creature comfortable (read plastic) on the inside. Whitty needs to decide which of those things are most important, because if offroad is a consideration the TJ/LJ Rubicon is a better bet unless you find a screaming deal on an LJ with a D44 rear.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:48 PM   #1512
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As nice as all those JK's are they have a less proven drivetrain (albeit really nice) and no lockers. To get anywhere near the off-road capability of that LJ Rubi you are talking $5k+ in mods. On the other hand the JK is much more creature comfortable (read plastic) on the inside. Whitty needs to decide which of those things are most important, because if offroad is a consideration the TJ/LJ Rubicon is a better bet unless you find a screaming deal on an LJ with a D44 rear.
True, but right off the lot the JK is still a capable vehicle. If I was going to spend that much money I'd rather buy new and mod it to my liking, rather than buying used and hoping the previous owner hasn't trashed it to hell. It all depends what Zach is planning to do with it as well. If it's just light offroading he doesn't have to worry about getting lockers. If he's not in a hurry to get into serious offroading he can buy a new vehicle, enjoy the comforts of the JKs, and then mod where he needs to.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:48 PM   #1513
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As nice as all those JK's are they have a less proven drivetrain (albeit really nice) and no lockers. To get anywhere near the off-road capability of that LJ Rubi you are talking $5k+ in mods. On the other hand the JK is much more creature comfortable (read plastic) on the inside. Whitty needs to decide which of those things are most important, because if offroad is a consideration the TJ/LJ Rubicon is a better bet unless you find a screaming deal on an LJ with a D44 rear.
Pfft. Whitty should just get a YJ and rock it as a fashion accessory.


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Old 10-31-2011, 10:05 PM   #1514
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Pfft. Whitty should just get a YJ and rock it as a fashion accessory.

Square headlights are the debbil!
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:50 AM   #1515
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Square headlights are the debbil!
But yjs are by far the easiest to axle swap. Bolt in some 77-79 f-250 axles and viola! A real d44 front and a d60 rear, full width and a 4-5 inch lift with disc brakes for under 2500. Just go buy tires!
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:58 AM   #1516
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In my opinion, if you want to spend $15k on a capable 7-seater, look into an earlier model 100-series Land Cruiser that has been sorted out with full maintenance. I think the only MY to be concerned about is the 99, they had some early transmission failures. Later model 100-series had more finicky problems like AHC (height control) and standard NAV.

Timing belt is the biggest service at about 90k miles. I've seen plenty of 100-series on MUD that is quite nice at your budget or less. They are plenty capable and once you're done with them, you'll end up with most of your money back. They are quite desirable so it wouldn't take 12 months to sell it like a Jeep. With your price range, I'd say look for one with around 120k miles.

People that shop for used Land Cruisers usually know what to look for, the ones with a binder full of regular maintenance are the first ones to be sold, just don't look for the cheapest LC (which for a 100-series, is around $10k).

What you can't expect is a HEMI-equipped type acceleration. The 4.7L V8 in the 100-series is no sledgehammer. They are plenty capable to tow a decent amount and will move down the highway just fine. Highway economy is ~17mpg from general consensus. They are nick trucks.
1998-1999 are the only ones with the available rear locker as well, those are the ones I'm really looking at.

Here is a good thread on mud about modifying the 100 series.

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Old 11-01-2011, 03:46 PM   #1517
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:20 PM   #1518
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Nice. Those AEV kits are pretty awesome. Here's a similar truck I've been following on Pirate, mostly because of how ridiculous it is. Stretched, linked on Mogs with a 12v Cummins.
that thing is slick, but to be honest after learning a lot about aev's stuff i wouldnt install one of their kits on a jk unless i was wanting a really nice on road lift. it seems their lift for the jk is focusing on overall handling, which to me is poop.

and that 4 door truck jk is niiiice. makes me think a lot of the hummer h3t.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:34 PM   #1519
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that thing is slick, but to be honest after learning a lot about aev's stuff i wouldnt install one of their kits on a jk unless i was wanting a really nice on road lift. it seems their lift for the jk is focusing on overall handling, which to me is poop.
I have never heard a bad thing about the quality of AEV components/kits. They do focus on handling/comfort, think of it more for expedition applications. I wouldn't go with AEV for a rock crawling, climbing application.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:49 PM   #1520
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I test drove a 2012 Wrangler earlier today, and while I was there the salesman showed me this gem:



Someone wrecked a MW3 edition Wrangler on a test drive
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:23 AM   #1521
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I test drove a 2012 Wrangler earlier today, and while I was there the salesman showed me this gem:



Someone wrecked a MW3 edition Wrangler on a test drive
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

BTW, I thought the MW3 editions came with a winch?
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:05 AM   #1522
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Literature says the bumper is "built to handle a winch".
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:46 AM   #1523
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Did I mention it was a one car accident? Apparently he turned off the traction control, gunned it and immediately spun into a pole
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What's the difference between a regular wrangler and the mw3 edition?
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What's the difference between a regular wrangler and the mw3 edition?

I thought it was a bunch of cosmetic crap tacked onto a Rubicon. Painted wheels, badging, trim pieces, anything else?
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